Cornell 1 Princeton 1 Etobicoke 1 (final--overtime)

[Al DeFlorio]

He didn't in OT.

Brain dead response, I regret to say.  Without Iles's play, there would have been no OT.

[jtwcornell91]

I think a lot of the band was in NYC for the Columbia game and parade, and therefore on the road for the start of the hockey game.

A thoroughly depressing day for those band members.

Meh.  The band always wins.

Truth.  I had forgotten what a joke the Columbia band is.  They had a guy whose "instrument" was long tree branches that he banged together.  That's a step down from Princeton's stop sign player, even.

Penn had a violin player in their band at the basketball game 2 years ago

A violin, unlike a tree branch, stop sign, squeeze mop, or trashcan, is an actual musical instrument.

[Josh '99]

I think a lot of the band was in NYC for the Columbia game and parade, and therefore on the road for the start of the hockey game.

A thoroughly depressing day for those band members.

Meh.  The band always wins.

Truth.  I had forgotten what a joke the Columbia band is.  They had a guy whose "instrument" was long tree branches that he banged together.  That's a step down from Princeton's stop sign player, even.

Penn had a violin player in their band at the basketball game 2 years ago

A violin, unlike a tree branch, stop sign, squeeze mop, Santa Claus, or trashcan, is an actual musical instrument.

Supplemented your post.

[Towerroad]

He didn't in OT.

Brain dead response, I regret to say.  Without Iles's play, there would have been no OT.

I agree, it could have as easily been 4-1 without Iles. The defense played Ok but did not control the puck that well in our end. The PP has evolved into the same PP I have seen the last few years. Move the puck to the point and then a slap shot followed by a clear. We were outskated and out hustled to the puck.

[Al DeFlorio]

He didn't in OT.

Brain dead response, I regret to say.  Without Iles's play, there would have been no OT.

I agree, it could have as easily been 4-1 without Iles. The defense played Ok but did not control the puck that well in our end. The PP has evolved into the same PP I have seen the last few years. Move the puck to the point and then a slap shot followed by a clear. We were outskated and out hustled to the puck.

Cornell also seems unable to keep the puck in the offensive zone for any significant time.  I thought I was watching a WCHA game being played on Olympic ice--a rush up the ice in one direction followed quickly by one in the opposite direction, with no cycling or sustained pressure by Cornell, something that has been a Cornell trademark.

[tretiak]

I caught the last ten minutes of the third and OT. The only brain dead response I saw was Iles not having his stick down on the GWG. I regret to say that a "real deal goalie" makes that save. Scrivens would.

[scoop85]

I caught the last ten minutes of the third and OT. The only brain dead response I saw was Iles not having his stick down on the GWG. I regret to say that a "real deal goalie" makes that save. Scrivens would.

Scrivens, as solid as he was, gave up plenty of bad goals too.

[amerks127]

I caught the last ten minutes of the third and OT. The only brain dead response I saw was Iles not having his stick down on the GWG. I regret to say that a "real deal goalie" makes that save. Scrivens would.

Scrivens, as solid as he was, gave up plenty of bad goals too.

See, for example, the game at Princeton last season.

[Larry72]

I'm sure that Andy wants that shot back. Probably wants the first goal back too, although it appeared to have an odd deflection to it.  Overall not having D'Agostino hurt Cornell a lot.  He makes an enormous difference in the powerplay and is the most confident defenseman in the defensive and neutral zones.  I thought Seymour played fine in his first game, but unlike Friday night, there was little offense from the defense!  It looked at one point during the game on a PK that there were only four defensemen available to play.  Not an easy night by any means.  Another learning experience, that if taken to heart will make this a much better team by February.

[Al DeFlorio]

I caught the last ten minutes of the third and OT. The only brain dead response I saw was Iles not having his stick down on the GWG. I regret to say that a "real deal goalie" makes that save. Scrivens would.

Equally brain dead, pal.  So you're saying a "real deal" goalie never lets one in he shouldn't have?  Really?  Your namesake did.  Get some sense.  And next time show up for the first fifty minutes.

[Jim Hyla]

I caught the last ten minutes of the third and OT. The only brain dead response I saw was Iles not having his stick down on the GWG. I regret to say that a "real deal goalie" makes that save. Scrivens would.

Equally brain dead, pal.  So you're saying a "real deal" goalie never lets one in he shouldn't have?  Really?  Your namesake did.  Get some sense.  And next time show up for the first fifty minutes.

Totally agree. He's a freshman after all. Do you (tretiak) remember Scrivens back then? I certainly do and I shuttered every time he tried to skate and shoot the puck. It's just incredible what people will say just to be able to put someone down.

[George64]

RE Etobicoke: None other than Ken Dryden played Junior B hockey for the Etobicoke Indians.  There's an interesting article referencing same in the SI archives.  BTW, he played forward in one freshman game against a weak opponent, but didn't skate or shoot the puck particularly well.

[tretiak]

I remember Scrivens as a freshman and he was far from a "real deal" goaltender. He had to mature; just like Iles needs to. Iles has potential, but he's not currently the best goalie in the NCAA like you and Al think. You two should wait more than three regular season games to declare Iles the Messiah. It's just incredible how people will overreact to a simple comment saying the OT goal shouldn't have gone in. Grow up.

[tretiak]

Forgive me for living on the West Coast and having to work on a Saturday, Al. Will the Lynah Faithful please forgive me for missing part of a November game? THE HORROR!

Thanks for adding nothing to this conversation besides condescension and generalities. Guess what - Iles is a freshman! Freshmen are prone to mistakes. He's not even the full-time starting goalie at this point. Let's compare the coming out party for several goalies:

1. Tretiak - nearly upsetting an incredible Team Canada at the 1972 Summit Series
2. Scrivens - 45 save shutout, 0-0 tie vs. a #11 UMass team at Lynah; the game Greening hit the crossbar in OT
3. Iles - 2-1 OT loss against Princeton where he made 36 saves but gave up a questionable goal in OT

If you use your head for something other than banging it against the wall, you can see that one of these is unlike the other two. You're attacking me for saying he has room to grow when you're saying the exact same thing. I have confidence in him eventually becoming a "real deal" goaltender (what exactly does this mean - starter, All-American, Hobey winner?). I don't think he will put up Jeff Lerg-like freshman stats or lead his team to an NCAA championship this year. You're basing your love affair with Iles on three games, why don't you let a larger sample size develop before judging him? At least wait until Iles steals a game for Cornell before you crown him. He is what most of us think he is - a freshman with great potential going who's going to have growing pains.

Or you can keep acting like a pompous ass with Jim. Knowing you, you'll choose the later.

[Al DeFlorio]

Forgive me for living on the West Coast and having to work on a Saturday, Al. Will the Lynah Faithful please forgive me for missing part of a November game? THE HORROR!

Thanks for adding nothing to this conversation besides condescension and generalities. Guess what - Iles is a freshman! Freshmen are prone to mistakes. He's not even the full-time starting goalie at this point. Let's compare the coming out party for several goalies:

1. Tretiak - nearly upsetting an incredible Team Canada at the 1972 Summit Series
2. Scrivens - 45 save shutout, 0-0 tie vs. a #11 UMass team at Lynah; the game Greening hit the crossbar in OT
3. Iles - 2-1 OT loss against Princeton where he made 36 saves but gave up a questionable goal in OT

If you use your head for something other than banging it against the wall, you can see that one of these is unlike the other two. You're attacking me for saying he has room to grow when you're saying the exact same thing. I have confidence in him eventually becoming a "real deal" goaltender (what exactly does this mean - starter, All-American, Hobey winner?). I don't think he will put up Jeff Lerg-like freshman stats or lead his team to an NCAA championship this year. You're basing your love affair with Iles on three games, why don't you let a larger sample size develop before judging him? At least wait until Iles steals a game for Cornell before you crown him. He is what most of us think he is - a freshman with great potential going who's going to have growing pains.

Or you can keep acting like a pompous ass with Jim. Knowing you, you'll choose the later.

You really are off the wall, I regret to say.  Get a grip, man.

1.  No one ever said he was the "best goalie in the NCAA," or that he'd lead Cornell to an NCAA championship as a freshman.  Where did you come up with that nonsense?  Is that required for someone to be a "real deal" NCAA goaltender?  Really?  If the latter is your criterion, I guess Cornell has never had a "real deal" goaltender.  You expect him to be Tretiak after three college games?  That's your standard for a "real deal?"  There have been maybe three college goaltenders in my lifetime who could claim to fit that category

2.  No one ever said he doesn't have "room to grow."  He's a freshman.  He stopped 97% of the shots against him in regulation, and that, and only that, caused an OT.  He's shown the ability to follow in the footsteps of Scrivens and his other recent predecessors.  They were the "real deal."  Too many freshmen come with that reputation but aren't able to live up to it.  No need to name names.

3.  If you didn't see 80% of the game, perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to judge.

4.  Lastly, you don't "know me."  See number 3 above.