Cornell 6 Clarkson 1

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Towerroad

Quote from: Roy 82The number of goals score by our opponents in the first 4 games are:
7, 5, 3, 1.

After careful analysis, I detected a trend. I predict that in the next game we will allow -1 goals.

However, they are all prime so be careful as there are other less appealing candidates.

Trotsky

Is 0 a prime?  I always forget.

Towerroad

No, a prime is divisible by 1 and itself. 0/0 is not legal although I am certain to ignite a math firestorm.

Trotsky

Is 0 even?  I always forget.

jkahn

Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: Roy 82The number of goals score by our opponents in the first 4 games are:
7, 5, 3, 1.

After careful analysis, I detected a trend. I predict that in the next game we will allow -1 goals.

However, they are all prime so be careful as there are other less appealing candidates.
1 is not a prime.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

Towerroad


Jim Hyla

I forget, why do we care if 1 or 0 are prime?
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

jtwcornell91

Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: Roy 82The number of goals score by our opponents in the first 4 games are:
7, 5, 3, 1.

After careful analysis, I detected a trend. I predict that in the next game we will allow -1 goals.

However, they are all prime so be careful as there are other less appealing candidates.
1 is not a prime.

Officially 0 and 1 are neither prime nor composite, even though 1 seems to fit the spirit of the definition of prime and 0 likewise "feels" composite.  I think this is because it makes the statement of various theorems about prime numbers simpler.

Killer

In the goalie manual, 0 is prime.

Trotsky

Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: Roy 82The number of goals score by our opponents in the first 4 games are:
7, 5, 3, 1.

After careful analysis, I detected a trend. I predict that in the next game we will allow -1 goals.

However, they are all prime so be careful as there are other less appealing candidates.
1 is not a prime.

Officially 0 and 1 are neither prime nor composite, even though 1 seems to fit the spirit of the definition of prime and 0 likewise "feels" composite.  I think this is because it makes the statement of various theorems about prime numbers simpler.
This is a lot of things, but it isn't "simple." ::help::

ursusminor

Quote from: Jim HylaI forget, why do we care if 1 or 0 are prime?
The Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic wouldn't hold if 1 were considered prime. That sounds like a good reason to me. :-)

KeithK

Quote from: Jim HylaI forget, why do we care if 1 or 0 are prime?
Because we're a bunch of geeks who have hijacked this thread?

Towerroad

Where else could we discuss prime number theory and hockey in the same place?

Jim Hyla

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: Jim HylaI forget, why do we care if 1 or 0 are prime?
The Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic wouldn't hold if 1 were considered prime. That sounds like a good reason to me. :-)
But I've never understood why that fails if 1 were considered prime. If 1 were prime, I suppose adding it to any calculation such as their example "6936 = 23 x 3 x 172 x 11" just doesn't seem right? Also, if 1 were prime you'd not have to construct "other than prime" additions to the other theorems.

Anyway, you could just rewrite the theorem as "Any number can be written as a unique product of prime numbers other than 1. There probably is a place where it falls apart, I just don't know it.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

ursusminor

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: Jim HylaI forget, why do we care if 1 or 0 are prime?
The Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic wouldn't hold if 1 were considered prime. That sounds like a good reason to me. :-)
But I've never understood why that fails if 1 were considered prime. If 1 were prime, I suppose adding it to any calculation such as their example "6936 = 23 x 3 x 172 x 11" just doesn't seem right? Also, if 1 were prime you'd not have to construct "other than prime" additions to the other theorems.

Anyway, you could just rewrite the theorem as "Any number can be written as a unique product of prime numbers other than 1. There probably is a place where it falls apart, I just don't know it.
I probably used the wrong smiley. It would just require an additional phrase like the one you used "other than 1" there and in other places.