2010 Post-season Thread

Started by Trotsky, March 28, 2010, 05:19:06 PM

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Trotsky

1996: 21-9-4, RS sweep of Harvard, Playoff victory over Harvard, ECAC Champions, NCAA 1st round loss
2010: 21-9-4, RS sweep of Harvard, Playoff victory over Harvard, ECAC Champions, NCAA 1st round loss

Coach Schafer has not improved this program at all. ;-)

Killer

No improvement?  Hah!  33% increase in wins over Harvard.

billhoward

Nice gathering of the facts. Sort of like taking two snapshots of a AC sine wave just above zero and not noticing that ~ 160 volt peak in between.

So is it "wait till next year" or "let's see in a year or two?" If getting to Albany (or Lake Placid or Atlantic City) and to the ECAC final four is the baseline for a reasonable Cornell season, it's seldom that we fail at that two years running.

Unlike the Is Donahue Leaving? thread that lit off the minute the New Year's ball tounched down in Times Square, eLynah has been reasonably quiet about Riley Nash. Maybe it's just that we assume he's out of here so why waste keystrokes?

ebilmes

Quote from: billhowardUnlike the Is Donahue Leaving? thread that lit off the minute the New Year's ball tounched down in Times Square, eLynah has been reasonably quiet about Riley Nash. Maybe it's just that we assume he's out of here so why waste keystrokes?

I don't have any information, but it would shock me if he stayed.

See:

http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/2010/03/cornell-loses-nash-should-be-on-plane.html

http://lowetide.blogspot.com/2010/03/desjardins-ncaa.html

Flyers1037

Quote from: ebilmes
Quote from: billhowardUnlike the Is Donahue Leaving? thread that lit off the minute the New Year's ball tounched down in Times Square, eLynah has been reasonably quiet about Riley Nash. Maybe it's just that we assume he's out of here so why waste keystrokes?

I don't have any information, but it would shock me if he stayed.

See:

http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/2010/03/cornell-loses-nash-should-be-on-plane.html

http://lowetide.blogspot.com/2010/03/desjardins-ncaa.html

2nd weakest conference of the major 6?  Does that put AHA ahead of ECAC?  ::wtf::

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: Flyers1037
Quote from: ebilmes
Quote from: billhowardUnlike the Is Donahue Leaving? thread that lit off the minute the New Year's ball tounched down in Times Square, eLynah has been reasonably quiet about Riley Nash. Maybe it's just that we assume he's out of here so why waste keystrokes?

I don't have any information, but it would shock me if he stayed.

See:

http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/2010/03/cornell-loses-nash-should-be-on-plane.html

http://lowetide.blogspot.com/2010/03/desjardins-ncaa.html

2nd weakest conference of the major 6?  Does that put AHA ahead of ECAC?  ::wtf::
Their champion's looking pretty good.
Al DeFlorio '65

Jim Hyla

Quote from: ebilmes
Quote from: billhowardUnlike the Is Donahue Leaving? thread that lit off the minute the New Year's ball tounched down in Times Square, eLynah has been reasonably quiet about Riley Nash. Maybe it's just that we assume he's out of here so why waste keystrokes?

I don't have any information, but it would shock me if he stayed.

See:

http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/2010/03/cornell-loses-nash-should-be-on-plane.html

http://lowetide.blogspot.com/2010/03/desjardins-ncaa.html
So one guy says he should be on a plane today. Is he? The other is not certain. What does that prove?
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005


RichH

Quote from: Flyers1037
Quote from: ebilmes
Quote from: billhowardUnlike the Is Donahue Leaving? thread that lit off the minute the New Year's ball tounched down in Times Square, eLynah has been reasonably quiet about Riley Nash. Maybe it's just that we assume he's out of here so why waste keystrokes?

I don't have any information, but it would shock me if he stayed.

See:

http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/2010/03/cornell-loses-nash-should-be-on-plane.html

http://lowetide.blogspot.com/2010/03/desjardins-ncaa.html

2nd weakest conference of the major 6?  Does that put AHA ahead of ECAC?  ::wtf::

Obviously talking about CHA. I mean, half of their league made the NCAA Tournament. Not even the WCHA can say that. ::nut::

ursusminor

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Flyers1037
Quote from: ebilmes
Quote from: billhowardUnlike the Is Donahue Leaving? thread that lit off the minute the New Year's ball tounched down in Times Square, eLynah has been reasonably quiet about Riley Nash. Maybe it's just that we assume he's out of here so why waste keystrokes?

I don't have any information, but it would shock me if he stayed.

See:

http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/2010/03/cornell-loses-nash-should-be-on-plane.html

http://lowetide.blogspot.com/2010/03/desjardins-ncaa.html

2nd weakest conference of the major 6?  Does that put AHA ahead of ECAC?  ::wtf::

Obviously talking about CHA. I mean, half of their league made the NCAA Tournament. Not even the WCHA can say that. ::nut::
An intersting post by Bob McKenzie on the topic of the ECAC's standing relative to other leagues http://board.uscho.com/showpost.php?p=4727791&postcount=85.

Trotsky

Quote from: billhowardis it "wait till next year" or "let's see in a year or two?"

A year or two or more.  Bad things can happen.  Ask Clarkson.

Cornell has had an 11-year run finishing in the top 4 RS in all but one, and that a 5th, the most consistent since Clarkson 1989-2002 (one 5th) or Harvard 1982-1995 (one 6th).  Conversely, decade-long streaks prove you can sustain for non-overlapping cohorts if you can keep talent rolling in.

pfibiger

Quote from: ebilmes
Quote from: billhowardUnlike the Is Donahue Leaving? thread that lit off the minute the New Year's ball tounched down in Times Square, eLynah has been reasonably quiet about Riley Nash. Maybe it's just that we assume he's out of here so why waste keystrokes?

I don't have any information, but it would shock me if he stayed.

See:

http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/2010/03/cornell-loses-nash-should-be-on-plane.html

http://lowetide.blogspot.com/2010/03/desjardins-ncaa.html

So the one thing that the lowetide commenters have finally gotten is that Riley holds most of the cards in this negotiation. There was a rumor on a board or blog that his agent was saying "NHL or he's headed back to school." All Riley has to do is come back for his senior year and that August (i think that's the right month), he's a free agent and can pull a Blake Wheeler and sign somewhere for the rookie max contract. If he ends up back at CU next year, I don't think it's just to finish his degree or to win another ECAC title. I think it's a calculated move to get the contract he (feels he) deserves.
Phil Fibiger '01
http://www.fibiger.org

amerks127

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Flyers1037
Quote from: ebilmes
Quote from: billhowardUnlike the Is Donahue Leaving? thread that lit off the minute the New Year's ball tounched down in Times Square, eLynah has been reasonably quiet about Riley Nash. Maybe it's just that we assume he's out of here so why waste keystrokes?

I don't have any information, but it would shock me if he stayed.

See:

http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/2010/03/cornell-loses-nash-should-be-on-plane.html

http://lowetide.blogspot.com/2010/03/desjardins-ncaa.html

2nd weakest conference of the major 6?  Does that put AHA ahead of ECAC?  ::wtf::

Obviously talking about CHA. I mean, half of their league made the NCAA Tournament. Not even the WCHA can say that. ::nut::
An intersting post by Bob McKenzie on the topic of the ECAC's standing relative to other leagues http://board.uscho.com/showpost.php?p=4727791&postcount=85.

Great post.  I literally ran into McKenzie at every game Cornell played against SLU(t) over the last four years in Lynah, as well as Albany this year and once in Appleton and the Hoot Owl afterward.  For working full time in Toronto, it's pretty amazing how many games he caught.

RatushnyFan

Quote from: pfibiger
Quote from: ebilmes
Quote from: billhowardUnlike the Is Donahue Leaving? thread that lit off the minute the New Year's ball tounched down in Times Square, eLynah has been reasonably quiet about Riley Nash. Maybe it's just that we assume he's out of here so why waste keystrokes?

I don't have any information, but it would shock me if he stayed.

See:

http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/2010/03/cornell-loses-nash-should-be-on-plane.html

http://lowetide.blogspot.com/2010/03/desjardins-ncaa.html

So the one thing that the lowetide commenters have finally gotten is that Riley holds most of the cards in this negotiation. There was a rumor on a board or blog that his agent was saying "NHL or he's headed back to school." All Riley has to do is come back for his senior year and that August (i think that's the right month), he's a free agent and can pull a Blake Wheeler and sign somewhere for the rookie max contract. If he ends up back at CU next year, I don't think it's just to finish his degree or to win another ECAC title. I think it's a calculated move to get the contract he (feels he) deserves.
Does he really have all the negotiating room?  I'm a huge fan of his but I wonder if his numbers and overall achievement have impressed them that much.  I'm just speculating though.  Is the thought that surrounded by higher quality players he'll be more of a scorer?  I think he's a very smart player and very good in terms of puck control but question whether he has the wheels to play in the NHL.  I really hope that he does.

pfibiger

Quote from: RatushnyFan
Quote from: pfibigerSo the one thing that the lowetide commenters have finally gotten is that Riley holds most of the cards in this negotiation. There was a rumor on a board or blog that his agent was saying "NHL or he's headed back to school." All Riley has to do is come back for his senior year and that August (i think that's the right month), he's a free agent and can pull a Blake Wheeler and sign somewhere for the rookie max contract. If he ends up back at CU next year, I don't think it's just to finish his degree or to win another ECAC title. I think it's a calculated move to get the contract he (feels he) deserves.
Does he really have all the negotiating room?  I'm a huge fan of his but I wonder if his numbers and overall achievement have impressed them that much.  I'm just speculating though.  Is the thought that surrounded by higher quality players he'll be more of a scorer?  I think he's a very smart player and very good in terms of puck control but question whether he has the wheels to play in the NHL.  I really hope that he does.

I think so. Higher end NCAA free agents are in big demand. His numbers are very similar to Chris Higgins and he's become a very responsible two way player. For the opportunity to snag a first round talent (even if Edmonton took him high) for free I bet half the teams in the league would be beating down his door, regardless of whether he pans out in the end.
Phil Fibiger '01
http://www.fibiger.org