Vermont 1 @ Cornell 8 - FINAL

[DeltaOne81]

[Q]Yes, certainly looked like an own-goal from where I was (section A)[/Q]
Heh, weird... because Age and "the Bear" shot me down at Dunbar's, telling me that they didn't remember anything like that, so I thought I was crazy... any one else? :-D

[bigred apple]

No suggestion that it was an own goal on the Cornell feed.

[Ben Doyle 03]

IIRC, nothing. There wasn't anything apparent directly before they went at it. There were  probably a bunch of little things that led up to Greg beating the living hell out of the poor kid:-P  BTW, the UVM player only got a minor b/c the two linesmen were holding him down while Greg went to town with at least ten solid rights!


H-O-R-N-B-Y. . .H-O-R-N-B-Y. . .H-O-R-N-B-Y. . . H-O-R-N-B-Y. . .H-O-R-N-B-Y!:-))

[adamw]

Sorry ... I did misspeak ... Hornby's penalty vs. Colgate was indeed a game misconduct, not a DQ.

[jtwcornell91]

Normally, I like Hornby's agressive spirit, but getting himself suspended for a game against a not-to-be-ignored Brown team is just dumb, especially considering what happened the last time he missed most of a game.  I see no reason to celebrate that.

[Jim Hyla]

Agree, it was dumb, unless the UVM player had done something very obnoxious that we don't know about.

Gleed's penalty at the end was also dumb. He had the UVM player completely dismantled and just kept going till he had him down on the ice. No need for that at that stage of the game. Considering it led to their only goal, I don't think it will happen again. A learning experience, but Hornby, I don't know. Maybe he has an explanation.

[DeltaOne81]

My opinion is that the UVM players started working on Hornby towards the end of the game. Grabbing his, cheap shots, etc. Although I didn't see the start of the fight, someone with me said they did, and he said that Hornby laid a clean hit on the guy,and the guy returned with a cheap shot, which, after several of those, probably just pissed him off. You'd like to see him keep his cool better than that, but at least it appeared to have been provoked.

[DeltaOne81]

So, I don't think this is important enough for a new thread, but since we're talking about the game...

I started my own new 'tradition' this weekend, in what might not be a total vain attempt to counteract the elongated "diiiiiie". The point was brought up that you can't counteract noise with silence, but you can with noise. I was in a roudy mood Friday, after all the yelling at our good friend Nicky, so about half way through elongated travesty, I just yelled "SHUT UP!" About half the people (give or take), stopped right then. Emboldened by my success I did it again last night, and again, about half the people stopped. I even got a 'thank you' from the person in from of me who agreed it was horrid.

So, my questions for the group are, a) is this a good idea to continue, hopefully only for a few games until people get the picture, and b) anyone wanna do it in a, b, d, f, and g? :-)

I hate for this 'diiiie' to be the legacy of my year. I also think I've helped bring back the 'sweep', 'chug', and 'tap' to the remote-control cheer. Though I dunno if it's a majority of people, there's definitely a number of people actually doing that now. I knew Walsh would be very helpful in bringing it back :-D.

[jy3]

great game.
i thought that the third goal was not an own goal. just a shot and rebound --> goal. but i may be confusing it with another goal

as for hornby, the uvm skater cross checked him high after hornby hit him cleanly and then said something (i was right on the other side of the glass), they started chatting then wrestling then hornby took off the gloves after the uvm guy hit him with the gloves on...it was a brawl after that.

i cant believe that i left my nasty CU hockey hat in the car friday night and didnt get to throw it...then palahicky had some good chances for a hatty late in the game saturday. i need to get rid of this nasty hat ;-)

[Richard Stott]

I think it's time for Schafer to consider sitting Hornby for a while -- he HAS to learn to control his temper.  I know he's a real fireplug on the boards and plays with alot of energy, but if he does what he did at Colgate or last night in the playoffs it could very easily cost us the game.

[Ben Doyle 03]

Richard & JTW,

I disagree 100%. . .coach has made it clear (as have others on the team ) that is his role on the team and I do not see coach not playing him whenever he's able to dress. Does he take some stupid penalties, oh yeah. Does his intense play help the team, of course. Does he get some extra attention from the referees and therefore a few undeserved penalties, Yup. The bottom line here is that he's doing what he is told or else why would he keep putting on his skates night after night. If coach and the team thought he was more a problem than a plus, I have a feeling we wouldn't even know the kids name.  I have been told by more than a few guys on the team that they (the men's hockey team) see Greg as the most valuable player that will not show up on the score sheet (actually scoring goals, that is;-) )

If jy3 is correct then the fight may well have been justified. If you've ever been cross-checked in the chest (or higher) you'll understand just how much it hurts. IIRC, the incident v. Brown earlier in the year when Matt McRae took a cheap shot cross-check up high, most, if not all people saw his reaction as justified. . .so why are people treating this any differently? If you're gonna judge the actions of the team, use a single standard, don't treat one any different than the others.

BTW, the fighting penalties would have been off-setting if not for the two linesmen holding Sifers on the ice. It's probably a safe bet he would've liked nothing more than to throw a few in Hornby's direction.

just my $.02 ;-)

[Anne 85]

FWIW, I thought a Cornellian put the puck in the net on the 3rd goal.  Of course, I also thought there was a Cornellian on top of the goalie for that one (but he might have been held there by a gentleman in green and yellow).

[curoadkill]

I meant to post this story a while ago, but I wonder if anyone else caught the scene at the end of warmups on Saturday?

So, as you may have noticed, Pegararo seems to be "the guy" who is last off the ice at the end of warmups. He'll wait until the whole Cornell team and the opposing team is off the ice before stepping off. Well on Saturday, he cordially gestured to the Vermont player who was last off that he should get off first. The UVM player insisted Dan get off first. (I believe this ritual created matching minors for delay last season)
Neither played would leave. I remember once in the past when Krys Wieckowski onece psyched someone out by leaving the ice and then jumping back on quicly when no one was looking... but I digress.
So Pegararo took off one of his gloves and challenged the UVM player to rock paper scissor. I think it was best two of three. Dan went rock twice and lost. He shrugged his shoulders and went into the locker room leaving the UVM player to leave the ice last.

Am I the only one who thinks this is really funny?

[Greg Berge]

Meanwhile, Hornby went rock twice later that night and won, but still had to leave the ice...

[crodger1]

If that's true, it is hilarious.

I noticed Pegoraro was the last to leave the ice after every period at RIP... ahh, superstitions.  What would sports be without them?  Of course, if I believed mine I would never get to go to another game again. :-(