Sleeping Bear?

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tretiak

Quote from: They were inappropriate for the venue: too syrupy. It's a hockey game, which means more ass-kicking and less glee club.

Amen. I can understand mixing in other parts of Cornell with hockey clips, but did they not try to find hockey clips? Off the top of my head I can think of several clips of the last few years that should've been shown - Sam Paolini's OT goal to win the 2003 ECAC, McRae's 2OT goal to send Cornell to the FF, Mike Kennedy's GWG against Harvard, Barlow's rush against Princeton last year, Greening's 2OT winner against Princeton, Barlow's GWG against NU, throwing fish at Harvard,  some big hits, and great saves. Put that together and you had a video to compete with BU's.

Trotsky

Give thanks it wasn't 10 minutes of raw wrestling footage.

jtwcornell91

Quote from: tretiak
Quote from: They were inappropriate for the venue: too syrupy. It's a hockey game, which means more ass-kicking and less glee club.

Amen. I can understand mixing in other parts of Cornell with hockey clips, but did they not try to find hockey clips? Off the top of my head I can think of several clips of the last few years that should've been shown - Sam Paolini's OT goal to win the 2003 ECAC, McRae's 2OT goal to send Cornell to the FF, Mike Kennedy's GWG against Harvard, Barlow's rush against Princeton last year, Greening's 2OT winner against Princeton, Barlow's GWG against NU, throwing fish at Harvard,  some big hits, and great saves. Put that together and you had a video to compete with BU's.

I would have liked to see a shot of Dave driving the Zamboni (sorry, Olympia) in costume.

ebilmes

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: RichHActually, I thought all our videos were pretty good, certainly not "embarrassingly bad."
They were inappropriate for the venue: too syrupy.  It's a hockey game, which means more ass-kicking and less glee club.

Yeah.  And then there was that one that made our football program look like a place for excellence.

I didn't really expect to see much high-quality stuff, since, as others have pointed out, Cornell doesn't have many opportunities to actually run these things on television.

Still, the football one was terrible. Way too much footage of the team running through Freshmen on the Field, which is a one-time event and often students' first and last football game at Cornell. Not just misleading and dishonest, but not the sport Cornell should be promoting. Go for hockey, basketball, gymnastics, lacrosse, wrestling, etc.

The BU video was fantastic. The rolling over of numbers -- HEA titles, NCAA championships, etc. -- was a great touch which really riled up the crowd. Very smart and hockey-specific. And ours... well, I can only take so many seconds of watching red-clad students bang thundersticks together as the 2-8 football team runs by.

I'm not sure why Sue Murphy was shown. We see her all the time. It would have been more interesting to see Gary Bettman, the Weill family, or some other famous alumni.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: ebilmesAnd ours... well, I can only take so many seconds of watching red-clad students bang thundersticks together as the 2-8 football team runs by.
Not sure which is more of an atrocity:  Thundersticks or the football program.
Al DeFlorio '65

BCrespi

Quote from: tretiak
Quote from: They were inappropriate for the venue: too syrupy. It's a hockey game, which means more ass-kicking and less glee club.

Amen. I can understand mixing in other parts of Cornell with hockey clips, but did they not try to find hockey clips? Off the top of my head I can think of several clips of the last few years that should've been shown - Sam Paolini's OT goal to win the 2003 ECAC, McRae's 2OT goal to send Cornell to the FF, Mike Kennedy's GWG against Harvard, Barlow's rush against Princeton last year, Greening's 2OT winner against Princeton, Barlow's GWG against NU, throwing fish at Harvard,  some big hits, and great saves. Put that together and you had a video to compete with BU's.

Unfortunately, broadcasting RedCast quality video over the "jumbotron" does not translate too well.  I guess we'll need to have more highlight-reel quality moments in the NCAAs, when we're on a real network.  I think that's something we can all get behind.
Brian Crespi '06

andyw2100

Since we're on the topic of video...why in the world did the redcast keep breaking away from covering what was going on on the ice to show the stupid red hot hockey logo? They had plenty of cameras available to them, thanks to the in-house MSG setup, or whatever it was. But during many stoppages, including ones where there was stuff going on, they'd cut to the stupid logo. At times they'd be showing the logo while play was taking place. Anyone have any guess as to what the heck they were doing?

Chris '03

Quote from: andyw2100Since we're on the topic of video...why in the world did the redcast keep breaking away from covering what was going on on the ice to show the stupid red hot hockey logo? They had plenty of cameras available to them, thanks to the in-house MSG setup, or whatever it was. But during many stoppages, including ones where there was stuff going on, they'd cut to the stupid logo. At times they'd be showing the logo while play was taking place. Anyone have any guess as to what the heck they were doing?

I got the sense they were showing whatever was up on the jumbotron and had no control over the video whatsoever. Hence things like the kiss cam and the focus on the penalty box at the end of every PP.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

ScrewBU

On a more positive note, at least our videos didn't use techno, or coldplay, or (shudder) techno remixes of coldplay.  The juxtaposition of the Cornell videos classical music against the ravey, glowstick-waving BU music really said it all about the differences between the respective universities.

Tom Tone

I also found it pretty tasteless that BU thanked the Terrier Pep Band but Cornell was more into the hotel they stayed at.

Also, I'm not even sure they still do Freshmen/Seniors on the field anymore.

KeithK

Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: andyw2100Since we're on the topic of video...why in the world did the redcast keep breaking away from covering what was going on on the ice to show the stupid red hot hockey logo? They had plenty of cameras available to them, thanks to the in-house MSG setup, or whatever it was. But during many stoppages, including ones where there was stuff going on, they'd cut to the stupid logo. At times they'd be showing the logo while play was taking place. Anyone have any guess as to what the heck they were doing?

I got the sense they were showing whatever was up on the jumbotron and had no control over the video whatsoever. Hence things like the kiss cam and the focus on the penalty box at the end of every PP.
I am pretty sure they were simply streaming the MSG in house feed.  So you're stuck with whatever is on the big screen.

David Harding

Unless there was an alternative version available, BU also won the battle of the programs.  In the one I bought, the editorial content was balanced in volume, but the advertising was not.  By my count there were 9 BU-related full page ads to Cornell's 4, 5 half page ads to 1, and 10 quarter page ads to none.  Then you look the program credits and see that it "was designed, written and edited by Peter Charbonneau of Collet Communications" and look on the web to find that BU's Associate AD for Marketing Communications is Rebecca Collet.  "Most recently, Collet served as principal of Collet Communications, LLC a private firm she founded in November of 2004, offering a broad range of public relations and communications strategies."

billhoward

Quote from: ebilmesWay too much footage of the team running through Freshmen on the Field, which is a one-time event and often students' first and last football game at Cornell. Not just misleading and dishonest, but not the sport Cornell should be promoting.
The team picked up a lot of yardage on that one, though. Some of the freshmen were tougher than they looked.

ScrewBU

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: ebilmesWay too much footage of the team running through Freshmen on the Field, which is a one-time event and often students' first and last football game at Cornell. Not just misleading and dishonest, but not the sport Cornell should be promoting.
The team picked up a lot of yardage on that one, though. Some of the freshmen were tougher than they looked.

In that spirit, maybe we should have Freshmen in the Net, and they would stop some of these late 3rd period goals :)

RichH

Quote from: David HardingUnless there was an alternative version available, BU also won the battle of the programs.  In the one I bought, the editorial content was balanced in volume, but the advertising was not.  By my count there were 9 BU-related full page ads to Cornell's 4, 5 half page ads to 1, and 10 quarter page ads to none.  Then you look the program credits and see that it "was designed, written and edited by Peter Charbonneau of Collet Communications" and look on the web to find that BU's Associate AD for Marketing Communications is Rebecca Collet.  "Most recently, Collet served as principal of Collet Communications, LLC a private firm she founded in November of 2004, offering a broad range of public relations and communications strategies."

Well, then, doesn't it make sense that most of the advertising is BU-centric?  Frankly, if BU spent more time, resources, and cash on producing a nice program featuring both teams for this one game, doesn't that mean that *we* won the "battle of the programs?"
Frankly, I'm trying to figure out what the heck our bitching in this thread is saying.  Are we supposed to be happy or upset that our alma mater is worse at creating slick, marketing materials at athletic events?  So maybe we're not as good a jock factory as others?  Oh no.

Or do I have to remind you all of this??:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5YjPteCPLo