Cornell-BU @ MSG postgame

[ugarte]

My feeling is that we could have easily won this game 3-0, as every one of BU's goals had some sort of flukiness to it. I also feel that we could have easily lost 6-3 considering how many great saves Scrivens was forced to make.

I agree with the latter sentiment more than the former. I think the shorty was soft but none of the goals were fluky. The first BU goal was the result of BU's aggressive forechecking on the PK. The was an unfortunate deflection but if Nash doesn't get his stick on the puck BU probably gets a clean goal off of a redirect, since BU created a 2 on 1. The third BU goal was a 6x4 crash-the-net mucker's goal; it was only fluky to the extent that Scrivens lost the puck.

As for BU's record, I briefly spoke to a BU fan after the game (a fan who was HIGHLY complimentary of the Big Red, and Scrivens in particular) about their record. He shrugged his shoulders and said "they're very young." That sounds about right. They seemed highly-skilled but kind of sloppy.

[Swampy]

My feeling is that we could have easily won this game 3-0, as every one of BU's goals had some sort of flukiness to it. I also feel that we could have easily lost 6-3 considering how many great saves Scrivens was forced to make.

I agree with the latter sentiment more than the former. I think the shorty was soft but none of the goals were fluky. The first BU goal was the result of BU's aggressive forechecking on the PK. The was an unfortunate deflection but if Nash doesn't get his stick on the puck BU probably gets a clean goal off of a redirect, since BU created a 2 on 1. The third BU goal was a 6x4 crash-the-net mucker's goal; it was only fluky to the extent that Scrivens lost the puck.

As for BU's record, I briefly spoke to a BU fan after the game (a fan who was HIGHLY complimentary of the Big Red, and Scrivens in particular) about their record. He shrugged his shoulders and said "they're very young." That sounds about right. They seemed highly-skilled but kind of sloppy.

I looked for this in the program, if I recall correctly, they only have 3 seniors. Too bad we didn't win. I expect that come late season, a win would have really helped our RPI.

[imafrshmn]

One  of the oddest things I've ever seen at a hockey game happened after this one.  Walking up 8th avenue, a slow-rolling Hummer stretch limo passed by.  The rear window was open, a BU flag was flying from it, and a lone guy was shouting at Cornell fans on the sidewalk, "Cornell sucks!".

[redice]

Yes, the idiots were out in NYC Saturday night.

I had a fellow & (presumably) his two sons almost run over my wife.   All four parties were walking.   My wife has some mobility issues and uses a cane.   After my wife recovered, I said (sarcastically) to the guy:  "nice!!!!".   He turned around & stared at me, obviously contemplating completion of his "I'm a thoughtless clod" imitation.   He decided to walk away.   Jerk!!

Oh yes, he was wearing a Cornell hockey jersey.   Too bad people like that don't dress in a way that renders them anonymous.   He gives Cornellians a bad name.....

[ScrewBU]

To the Cornell fan reprimanding everyone around him that it is in fact "safety school(s)", because BU is a university, you are the reason no one likes us.   Die in a fire.

[Rosey]

To the Cornell fan reprimanding everyone around him that it is in fact "safety school(s)", because BU is a university, you are the reason no one likes us.   Die in a fire.

LOL.  That's almost as good as my buddy Joe-×'s post on why he is a libertarian.  See the last paragraph: http://pmpub.krose.org/forum?action=view&forum_id=2&message_id=352746

[dbilmes]

. . .   He gives Cornellians a bad name.....

As did the Cornell fan sitting right behind us who spilled his full cup of beer which made the floor beneath our seats a sea of suds, ruining my tote bag and soaking my girlfriend's pocketbook with beer. He didn't even have the courtesy to apologize. I guess he was too pissed off about wasting a $9 glass of beer.

[Rosey]

As did the Cornell fan sitting right behind us who spilled his full cup of beer which made the floor beneath our seats a sea of suds, ruining my tote bag and soaking my girlfriend's pocketbook with beer. He didn't even have the courtesy to apologize. I guess he was too pissed off about wasting a $9 glass of beer.

Not an excuse for not apologizing, but it's frakkin' ridiculous that the "most famous arena in the world" doesn't have cup holders. ::doh::

[redice]

. . .   He gives Cornellians a bad name.....

As did the Cornell fan sitting right behind us who spilled his full cup of beer which made the floor beneath our seats a sea of suds, ruining my tote bag and soaking my girlfriend's pocketbook with beer. He didn't even have the courtesy to apologize. I guess he was too pissed off about wasting a $9 glass of beer.

I guess that's the part that disappointed me most (about our encounter).   The jerk made no effort to say excuse me, sorry, etc.   With that omission, I couldn't resist complimenting him on his behavior.   After all, in a large crowd, things like that (collisions) are going to happen.   It's the courtesy after the collision that shows the character.

[billhoward]

. . .   He gives Cornellians a bad name.....

As did the Cornell fan sitting right behind us who spilled his full cup of beer which made the floor beneath our seats a sea of suds, ruining my tote bag and soaking my girlfriend's pocketbook with beer. He didn't even have the courtesy to apologize. I guess he was too pissed off about wasting a $9 glass of beer.

I guess that's the part that disappointed me most (about our encounter).   The jerk made no effort to say excuse me, sorry, etc.   With that omission, I couldn't resist complimenting him on his behavior.   After all, in a large crowd, things like that (collisions) are going to happen.   It's the courtesy after the collision that shows the character.

Well, it is New York City. When somebody bumps me in NY and apologizes, after checking to see if my wallet hasn't been lifted, I'll say, "Hey, no apology necessary. This is New York," which usually gets a smile. It's the handful of polite New Yorkers that spoil what the majority have worked so hard to establish as a reputation.

Also on this branch of the thread, Kyle Rose notes one more thing wrong with the self-proclaimed world's greatest arena (no cupholders). The MSG PA announcer kept saying "world's greatest arena" in the form of an untruth repeated often becoming a truth. It's ancient, it's uncomfortable, and it isn't populated by very good teams. Plus no cupholders. Plus you never could evacuate the place quickly in an emergency. It's one of the oldest NHL arenas, I believe (Mellon Pittsburgh 1961, MSG 1968, Nassau Colisum 1971). I'm not a fan of replacing arenas at 25 the way the Devils did, but the wider concourses and greater amenities (especially for fatcat fans) make newer places better to be. If and when this MSG comes down, it will bring back the stories about why the beautiful old Penn Station was razed to make way for an arena that doesn't last much more than 50 years or 60 years. The old Boston Garden was a worse place by far than MSG, but Boston Garden had charm, and we had a lot of victories there.

I thought BU fans were not at all problematic, in part because there weren't many of them. For the Cornell fans who got hassled, imagine how difficult the BU people would be if BU had lost.

[scoop85]

MSG was supposed to undergo a $600 million renovation, including widening the concourses.  I haven't heard anything official, but I'm assuming it's on hold due to the recession.

[Jacob '06]

MSG was supposed to undergo a $600 million renovation, including widening the concourses.  I haven't heard anything official, but I'm assuming it's on hold due to the recession.

It is rescheduled to start this summer. The prevailing theory is that the Dolan's were just threatening to try and get the move across the street to happen still, but I think at this point the renovations are just going to go forward.

[CowbellGuy]

blah blah blah..."world's greatest arena" in the form of an untruth repeated often becoming a truth...blah blah blah

Actually, that's not what he (or anyone) said. It's "World's Most Famous Arena" which I invite you to dispute. Fame has nothing to do with cup holders or amenities. As you seem to be bursting at the seams with excess words and repeatedly choose ELF as the overflow receptacle, the least you could do is use the right ones.

[jkahn]

Some game impressions:
It was a very up tempo game, with both teams battling hard.  It seemed like I was using the term "freshman mistake" to explain a lot of our misplays.  Both D'Agostino and Birch have a lot of upside, but D'Agostino made a few passes to no one, and Birch made a few mental errors in backing away from an attempt to keep the puck in our offensive end and also rushing clearing attempts without looking.  Both have been generally impressive this season, but neither has the defensive poise that Keir Ross showed last year, so I hope they continue to rotate Ross in as well.  Also, the Kary, Miller, Axell line never generated any offense.
Although it's easy to see how we could have won, it also could have been a lot worse.  There were three or four times when BU made a pass to a player who was about 10 feet from the net with plenty of open net to shoot at, and the shots just missed everything.
A thought on the lines:  Would it make sense to have Jillson and Joe Devin switch lines?  Jillson is a better passer than Joe, and with Greening and Gallagher both being scorers, would fit well on that line.  And Joe Devin may be a better scorer (although that may be a result of his linemates), and perhaps that would give Riley, who likes to pass, someone to finish his plays.  I thought Jillson played well all evening. It seemed like only the top two lines ever had the puck in the offensive zone.
And finally, so ebilmes doesn't have to say it this week, you just can't take a cross-checking penalty in the offensive zone, paticularly late in the third period.

[tretiak]

The Devils replaced Continental Airlines Arena because it was the center of North Jersey gridlock. It wasn't worth driving to games to sit in traffic for an hour within viewing distance of the arena, so the Prudential Center was built a block away from the Newark train station. I agree though - MSG needs some renovation to make it more fan-friendly.