REDCast for 2009-2010

[Rita]

[quote Dpperk29][quote Jordan 04]Odd, RedCast refuses to take any of my credit cards.[/quote]

I've found paying the pill helps most of the time... [/quote]

Does that also help prevent pregnancies too?

[Dpperk29]

[quote Rita][quote Dpperk29][quote Jordan 04]Odd, RedCast refuses to take any of my credit cards.[/quote]

I've found paying the pill helps most of the time... [/quote]

Does that also help prevent pregnancies too?[/quote]

This is why forums should come with breathalyzers...

obviously I meant bill

[Rita]

[quote Dpperk29][quote Rita][quote Dpperk29][quote Jordan 04]Odd, RedCast refuses to take any of my credit cards.[/quote]

I've found paying the pill helps most of the time... [/quote]

Does that also help prevent pregnancies too?[/quote]

This is why forums should come with breathalyzers...

obviously I meant bill[/quote]

I know, I forgot the appropriate emoticon.
But if there were breathalyzers attached to the computer keyboards, imagine how boring internet posts would be to read. ;-). What would fuel the flamefests on USCHO? ::drunk::

[mnagowski]

Odd, RedCast refuses to take any of my credit cards.

You are not alone. I had the same exact problem Friday night. And in my frustration I made a small gift to the University instead.

[billhoward]

[quote tretiak]there's a women's ice hockey season pass? seriously? it's a shame how cornell is trying to swindle the parents of the women's ice hockey team.

...now let me go hide. i can hear jerseygirl coming.[/quote]

Or Cornell is *trying* to make money off videocasts. We're seeing Cornell trying yield management.

It's possible that if all you care about is one team, then parents would appreciate that.

What I'm looking for is a one-year pass with reciprocity for away games.

[tretiak]

apparently only some of you got the joke - women's hockey is awful to watch.

i'd love reciprocity for away games too.

[Dpperk29]

[quote tretiak]

apparently only some of you got the joke - women's hockey is awful to watch.

[/quote]

I am not trying to drift this thread.

But you sir are wrong. To the casual fan of Hockey women's hockey is boring at first because it is slower and there is no hitting.

To someone who understands the flow of the game, the beauty of well executed breakouts, forechecks, power plays, penalty kills, and the other skilled portions of the game women's hockey is poetry on ice.

[redice]

[quote Dpperk29]To someone who understands the flow of the game, the beauty of well executed breakouts, forechecks, power plays, penalty kills, and the other skilled portions of the game women's hockey is poetry on ice.[/quote]

At the risk of drifting this thread further off course, I make the same argument to people who think a hockey game without fighting is a boring hockey game.   To them, I say what you said.   The looks I get from that crowd.....::demented::

[Rosey]

[quote Dpperk29]To someone who understands the flow of the game, the beauty of well executed breakouts, forechecks, power plays, penalty kills, and the other skilled portions of the game women's hockey is poetry on ice.[/quote]
Am I the only one who doesn't get this from watching the women?  Maybe from Rebecca Johnston, but I don't see transcendent skating beauty or tape-to-tape-to-tape passes on a regular basis from any of the women's teams I've seen: in fact, whenever I see a women's game—including the best women playing hockey in the world, in the Olympics—my initial impression is not simply "slow", but "sloppy".

I'm not sure I can explain why, either, because strength (the one inherent advantage of men) doesn't play a factor in the cleanliness or snappiness of the game.  Maybe women don't start playing as early as men?  Maybe the coaching is inferior?  Beats me.

[Dpperk29]

[quote Kyle Rose][quote Dpperk29]To someone who understands the flow of the game, the beauty of well executed breakouts, forechecks, power plays, penalty kills, and the other skilled portions of the game women's hockey is poetry on ice.[/quote]
Am I the only one who doesn't get this from watching the women?  Maybe from Rebecca Johnston, but I don't see transcendent skating beauty or tape-to-tape-to-tape passes on a regular basis from any of the women's teams I've seen: in fact, whenever I see a women's game—including the best women playing hockey in the world, in the Olympics—my initial impression is not simply "slow", but "sloppy".

I'm not sure I can explain why, either, because strength (the one inherent advantage of men) doesn't play a factor in the cleanliness or snappiness of the game.  Maybe women don't start playing as early as men?  Maybe the coaching is inferior?  Beats me.[/quote]

The obvious answer is that you don't understand the game .

I'll give you that the overall speed is slower. Once you get used to the slower game, it can be very entertaining.

And maybe you think sloppy because you are seeing more long outlet passes and trickier passes attempted?

IDK, maybe my opinion is skewed right now because I have had a weekend of watching some of the best women's hockey in the country (The #4 ranked Clarkson beat #3 UNH 6-2 and #9 BU 7-1).

[Robb]

[quote Kyle Rose][quote Dpperk29]To someone who understands the flow of the game, the beauty of well executed breakouts, forechecks, power plays, penalty kills, and the other skilled portions of the game women's hockey is poetry on ice.[/quote]
Am I the only one who doesn't get this from watching the women?  Maybe from Rebecca Johnston, but I don't see transcendent skating beauty or tape-to-tape-to-tape passes on a regular basis from any of the women's teams I've seen: in fact, whenever I see a women's game—including the best women playing hockey in the world, in the Olympics—my initial impression is not simply "slow", but "sloppy".

I'm not sure I can explain why, either, because strength (the one inherent advantage of men) doesn't play a factor in the cleanliness or snappiness of the game.  Maybe women don't start playing as early as men?  Maybe the coaching is inferior?  Beats me.[/quote]
I agree with you, Kyle, and I think it's just that men inherently have better hand-eye coordination.  When I was fencing,  we men always complained to each other any time we had to fence women.  Not because we didn't like "fighting" girls and certainly not because they could beat us (very rare).  The problem was that fencing women HURTS.  They just didn't have as good control of their weapons, so after a single bout, you'd be black-and-blue.  You could fence (stronger, faster) men all day and never get a mark - even if the men had only been fencing for a very short while and the women had been fencing for years.  The men just had so much more precise control that their "touches" were very light, whereas the women would clumsily (by comparison) just thrust their swords all over the place.

Note that hand-eye coordination is not the same thing as dexterity - women are plenty dexterous - for example, female violinists are every bit as good as the men.  But there's no hand-eye coordination there - the moves are all "pre-known," and you don't have to react to something that you're not controlling.

[RichH]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feE1G2sJty0

[Rosey]

[quote Dpperk29]The obvious answer is that you don't understand the game .[/quote]
Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't make it "the obvious answer".

Perhaps you mean that I don't "appreciate" the women's game?  Maybe so, but I also don't appreciate men's bikini competitions either, for reasons having to do with my impressions about Barney Gumbel in a jumbo thong bikini.  Similarly, the things I look for and enjoy in the men's game are simply not done as well in the women's game.  I'm not making a moral judgment, nor am I judging women inferior to men; but the women's game *is* inferior to the men's in the ways I care about.  I suppose I could learn to appreciate it, but I suppose I could also learn to appreciate men in bikinis.  I don't see the point of either.

IDK, maybe my opinion is skewed right now because I have had a weekend of watching some of the best women's hockey in the country (The #4 ranked Clarkson beat #3 UNH 6-2 and #9 BU 7-1).

One of the teams that helped form my opinion was the Canadian national team from the Olympics three years ago. I don't think they get better than that.

[tretiak]

Yeah Dpperk...no. Sit this one out, etc. etc. Aside from someone as skilled as Rebecca Johnston who is an absolute beast on the ice, women's hockey just doesn't cut it. It's slow and just tough to watch. The US women's national team lost to a mediocre Minnesota men's high school team. Seriously.

http://antimisandry.com/sports/high-school-boys-beat-u-s-olympic-womens-hockey-team-237.html

This actually happened. And people here are pissed that Cornell lost to the U-18 USNTDP

[Dpperk29]

[quote tretiak]

Yeah Dpperk...no. Sit this one out, etc. etc. Aside from someone as skilled as Rebecca Johnston who is an absolute beast on the ice, women's hockey just doesn't cut it. It's slow and just tough to watch. The US women's national team lost to a mediocre Minnesota men's high school team. Seriously.

http://antimisandry.com/sports/high-school-boys-beat-u-s-olympic-womens-hockey-team-237.html

This actually happened. And people here are pissed that Cornell lost to the U-18 USNTDP[/quote]

Apparently I should have specified well-played women's hockey is fun to watch.

And you know what? if you don't appreciate the Women's game, that is fine with me, but don't disrespect the hard working women out there playing a game that they enjoy at the highest level most of them will ever achieve by saying "It just doesn't cut it." You could argue that the women playing college hockey are doing it for better reasons than a lot of the men playing college hockey. Women don't have a snowball's chance in hell of going on and playing professionally, something the men do. Men use college hockey as a stop along the way, women use it as a destination. They are working hard to represent their University, and don't deserve to be told they just don't cut it.

Let me ask you this, have you ever really given it a shot? ever been to multiple games in a short period of time? ever made an effort to understand it? You have to stop comparing it to mens hockey because it is completely different. Try it with an open mind, and you might be surprised how much you enjoy it after to adjust your perception.