Tierney leaving Princeton for Denver

TimV · June 09, 2009, 03:09:35 PM

Tierney will probably be replaced by Metzblower, but Princeton's rise to dynasty status had more than a little to do with getting so many Blue Chips, especially out of the MIAA. Will that pipeline stay open? It's even possible some current recruits or players would transfer. Probably unlikely Princeton to Denver, but how about to Harvard, or um....us?

ben03 · June 09, 2009, 04:40:15 PM

[quote TimV]Tierney will probably be replaced by Metzblower, but Princeton's rise to dynasty status had more than a little to do with getting so many Blue Chips, especially out of the MIAA. Will that pipeline stay open? It's even possible some current recruits or players would transfer. Probably unlikely Princeton to Denver, but how about to Harvard, or um....us?[/quote]

so we all know the transfer rules for an active D1 player ... but how do these rules apply to kids who has only committed to a school but have yet to enroll and/or dress? do they have to be released (by in this case P'ton) or are they free to go?

Al DeFlorio · June 09, 2009, 05:02:19 PM

[quote TimV]It's even possible some current recruits or players would transfer. Probably unlikely Princeton to Denver, but how about to Harvard, or um....us?[/quote]
They'd have to convert The Chapter House into an Eating Club.::whistle::

Josh '99 · June 09, 2009, 05:07:20 PM

[quote ben03][quote TimV]Tierney will probably be replaced by Metzblower, but Princeton's rise to dynasty status had more than a little to do with getting so many Blue Chips, especially out of the MIAA. Will that pipeline stay open? It's even possible some current recruits or players would transfer. Probably unlikely Princeton to Denver, but how about to Harvard, or um....us?[/quote]

so we all know the transfer rules for an active D1 player ... but how do these rules apply to kids who has only committed to a school but have yet to enroll and/or dress? do they have to be released (by in this case P'ton) or are they free to go?[/quote]I think (but don't have a source to back it up) incoming recruits are free to go in this situation. At this point they've never practiced with the team or even enrolled at the school.

ben03 · June 09, 2009, 06:29:41 PM

[quote Josh '99][quote ben03][quote TimV]Tierney will probably be replaced by Metzblower, but Princeton's rise to dynasty status had more than a little to do with getting so many Blue Chips, especially out of the MIAA. Will that pipeline stay open? It's even possible some current recruits or players would transfer. Probably unlikely Princeton to Denver, but how about to Harvard, or um....us?[/quote]

so we all know the transfer rules for an active D1 player ... but how do these rules apply to kids who has only committed to a school but have yet to enroll and/or dress? do they have to be released (by in this case P'ton) or are they free to go?[/quote]I think (but don't have a source to back it up) incoming recruits are free to go in this situation. At this point they've never practiced with the team or even enrolled at the school.[/quote]

yeah that was my thought as well but i had nothing to back it up either.

Swampy · June 09, 2009, 10:18:38 PM

This is truly shocking, although I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye. If Tierney wanted, no doubt he could have hired his son as an assistant at Princeton. Denver is an attractive place, but DU doesn't have the potential of, say, a California or Texas school. It will be interesting to see what he can accomplish.

KenP · June 10, 2009, 09:07:35 AM

Did anyone else notice this in the IJ article?

QuoteThe Pioneers are switching leagues in 2010, joining the ECAC.

ugarte · June 10, 2009, 09:27:30 AM

[quote KenP]Did anyone else notice this in the IJ article?

QuoteThe Pioneers are switching leagues in 2010, joining the ECAC.

[/quote]
Along with 4 other teams. That doesn't really affect us much; we aren't in the ECAC in lacrosse.

Josh '99 · June 10, 2009, 10:16:44 AM

[quote Swampy]This is truly shocking, although I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye. If Tierney wanted, no doubt he could have hired his son as an assistant at Princeton.[/quote]True, but as the original article points out, Tierney has other family members out west - another son living in Portland, a daughter coaching at Berkeley, his mother living in Arizona. It doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility that he might be moving to be closer to them as well. Also, guessing based on Bill's age, Trevor might have kids in school in Colorado, making a move to NJ to coach together a less appealing option.

ugarte · June 10, 2009, 12:14:29 PM

[quote Josh '99][quote Swampy]This is truly shocking, although I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye. If Tierney wanted, no doubt he could have hired his son as an assistant at Princeton.[/quote]True, but as the original article points out, Tierney has other family members out west - another son living in Portland, a daughter coaching at Berkeley, his mother living in Arizona. It doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility that he might be moving to be closer to them as well. Also, guessing based on Bill's age, Trevor might have kids in school in Colorado, making a move to NJ to coach together a less appealing option.[/quote]
It also may have been harder for Tierney to negotiate his son a position as heir apparent at Princeton not to mention the real knife in the back it would have been to a long time assistant in line for the promotion. If his top assistant is expected to get the job, that is probably an outcome that Tierney favors as well.

TimV · June 10, 2009, 12:18:06 PM

I love that the Eastern College Athletic Conference now includes 2 teams from Colorado, one from Ohio, and one from Kentucky.

Hey- Will some of these want to join the ECAC for a little....HOCKEY???::dribble::

mnagowski · June 10, 2009, 12:18:40 PM

QuoteThey'd have to convert The Chapter House into an Eating Club.

No thank you.

Al DeFlorio · June 10, 2009, 03:31:42 PM

[quote Swampy]If Tierney wanted, no doubt he could have hired his son as an assistant at Princeton.[/quote]
But, with longtime Tierney assistant Metzbower at Princeton, succession would have been a more complex issue.

CowbellGuy · June 10, 2009, 04:06:09 PM

[quote ben03]so we all know the transfer rules for an active D1 player ... but how do these rules apply to kids who has only committed to a school but have yet to enroll and/or dress? do they have to be released (by in this case P'ton) or are they free to go?[/quote]

Do you?

In lacrosse, as long as both coaches agree, transfers don't have to sit out at all. I guess that decision would fall to whomever replaces Tierney. They could be a dick about it and make them sit out a year, but I would think given the circumstances, even a current player would be allowed to transfer and play, especially if they go to a different league. If they wanted to transfer to another Ivy, the coach might be more reluctant to give the new team an immediate advantage that could come back to bite Princeton, but it seems to be rare that they force the sit-out.

ugarte · June 10, 2009, 04:20:39 PM

[quote CowbellGuy][quote ben03]so we all know the transfer rules for an active D1 player ... but how do these rules apply to kids who has only committed to a school but have yet to enroll and/or dress? do they have to be released (by in this case P'ton) or are they free to go?[/quote]

Do you?

In lacrosse, as long as both coaches agree, transfers don't have to sit out at all. I guess that decision would fall to whomever replaces Tierney. They could be a dick about it and make them sit out a year, but I would think given the circumstances, even a current player would be allowed to transfer and play, especially if they go to a different league. If they wanted to transfer to another Ivy, the coach might be more reluctant to give the new team an immediate advantage that could come back to bite Princeton, but it seems to be rare that they force the sit-out.[/quote]
Thanks for this. I was pretty sure that the draconian transfer rules only applied to the "big" sports but was too lazy to do the research and have been asking too many questions that would force other people to do it for me lately.