Cornell-Syracuse Postgame

[Josh '99]

[quote Redscore]I had forgotten how clinical Ivy league students were.  Its actually quite sad.  My point was more about the groundswell of opinion in Cornell's favor rather than the the "softer" good things will come, part of my post. Im not surprised that the softer part of my quote was pounced upon on this thread.  Have fun guys, and now I'm truly sorry I even tried to step in here.  Its been a tough week and the last thing I need is a-holes from my own side.[/quote]

Huh?  Why are you sorry?  I thought your post was really nice.  I don't see anyone acting like a-holes in response to you.  Killer only related a personal (and somewhat off-topic) story and Jeff and DeltaOne responded to that.  Nobody disrespected you.

We all deal with frustration differently, and I appreciated the positivity to help with my healing process.

[RichH]

[quote Josh '99][quote Redscore]I had forgotten how clinical Ivy league students were.  Its actually quite sad.  My point was more about the groundswell of opinion in Cornell's favor rather than the the "softer" good things will come, part of my post. Im not surprised that the softer part of my quote was pounced upon on this thread.  Have fun guys, and now I'm truly sorry I even tried to step in here.  Its been a tough week and the last thing I need is a-holes from my own side.[/quote]

Huh?  Why are you sorry?  I thought your post was really nice.  I don't see anyone acting like a-holes in response to you.  Killer only related a personal (and somewhat off-topic) story and Jeff and DeltaOne responded to that.  Nobody disrespected you.

We all deal with frustration differently, and I appreciated the positivity to help with my healing process.[/quote]

Heh.  Know what's funny?  When a friend crashes at your place and logs onto eLynah on your computer, and you post a week later without realizing he's still logged in.

In other words, the above post is from me, not Josh.

[Redscore]

Just being too sensitive I guess.  Man, the what if's keep killing me.  When will they go way!

[Chris '03]

[quote RichH][quote Josh '99][quote Redscore]I had forgotten how clinical Ivy league students were.  Its actually quite sad.  My point was more about the groundswell of opinion in Cornell's favor rather than the the "softer" good things will come, part of my post. Im not surprised that the softer part of my quote was pounced upon on this thread.  Have fun guys, and now I'm truly sorry I even tried to step in here.  Its been a tough week and the last thing I need is a-holes from my own side.[/quote]

Huh?  Why are you sorry?  I thought your post was really nice.  I don't see anyone acting like a-holes in response to you.  Killer only related a personal (and somewhat off-topic) story and Jeff and DeltaOne responded to that.  Nobody disrespected you.

We all deal with frustration differently, and I appreciated the positivity to help with my healing process.[/quote]

Heh.  Know what's funny?  When a friend crashes at your place and logs onto eLynah on your computer, and you post a week later without realizing he's still logged in.

In other words, the above post is from me, not Josh.[/quote]

Like anyone thought Josh wrote that. :-P

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Redscore]Just being too sensitive I guess.  Man, the what if's keep killing me.  When will they go way![/quote]
Stay cool.  I think everyone here agrees with your original posting.  Was it a crushing letdown?  You bet.  But did the team show it belonged with the so-called "big boys?"  You bet.

[Josh '99]

[quote Chris '03][quote RichH][quote Josh '99][quote Redscore]I had forgotten how clinical Ivy league students were.  Its actually quite sad.  My point was more about the groundswell of opinion in Cornell's favor rather than the the "softer" good things will come, part of my post. Im not surprised that the softer part of my quote was pounced upon on this thread.  Have fun guys, and now I'm truly sorry I even tried to step in here.  Its been a tough week and the last thing I need is a-holes from my own side.[/quote]

Huh?  Why are you sorry?  I thought your post was really nice.  I don't see anyone acting like a-holes in response to you.  Killer only related a personal (and somewhat off-topic) story and Jeff and DeltaOne responded to that.  Nobody disrespected you.

We all deal with frustration differently, and I appreciated the positivity to help with my healing process.[/quote]

Heh.  Know what's funny?  When a friend crashes at your place and logs onto eLynah on your computer, and you post a week later without realizing he's still logged in.

In other words, the above post is from me, not Josh.[/quote]

Like anyone thought Josh wrote that. :-P[/quote]Yeah, me no talk so good most de time.

[Killer]

[quote Josh '99][quote Redscore]I had forgotten how clinical Ivy league students were.  Its actually quite sad.  My point was more about the groundswell of opinion in Cornell's favor rather than the the "softer" good things will come, part of my post. Im not surprised that the softer part of my quote was pounced upon on this thread.  Have fun guys, and now I'm truly sorry I even tried to step in here.  Its been a tough week and the last thing I need is a-holes from my own side.[/quote]

Huh?  Why are you sorry?  I thought your post was really nice.  I don't see anyone acting like a-holes in response to you.  Killer only related a personal (and somewhat off-topic) story and Jeff and DeltaOne responded to that.  Nobody disrespected you.

We all deal with frustration differently, and I appreciated the positivity to help with my healing process.[/quote]

Redscore, Josh/Rich is absolutely right.  I took no issue with your post, which I also thought was well stated, and I think it's great that we're getting the kind of response we are.  A number of people at my tennis club voiced similar sentiments when they saw me last week.

Meanwhile, as a transplanted Yankee fan, living in the Boston area, I'm wont to go off on a Red Sox-Yankees tangent every now and then, and clearly there are Sox fans on here ready to give it right back.  I knew it would get a few chuckles and maybe some "Up yours, Killer".  Regardless, keep posting.

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Killer][quote Josh '99][quote Redscore]I had forgotten how clinical Ivy league students were.  Its actually quite sad.  My point was more about the groundswell of opinion in Cornell's favor rather than the the "softer" good things will come, part of my post. Im not surprised that the softer part of my quote was pounced upon on this thread.  Have fun guys, and now I'm truly sorry I even tried to step in here.  Its been a tough week and the last thing I need is a-holes from my own side.[/quote]

Huh?  Why are you sorry?  I thought your post was really nice.  I don't see anyone acting like a-holes in response to you.  Killer only related a personal (and somewhat off-topic) story and Jeff and DeltaOne responded to that.  Nobody disrespected you.

We all deal with frustration differently, and I appreciated the positivity to help with my healing process.[/quote]

Redscore, Josh/Rich is absolutely right.  I took no issue with your post, which I also thought was well stated, and I think it's great that we're getting the kind of response we are.  A number of people at my tennis club voiced similar sentiments when they saw me last week.

Meanwhile, as a transplanted Yankee fan, living in the Boston area, I'm wont to go off on a Red Sox-Yankees tangent every now and then, and clearly there are Sox fans on here ready to give it right back.  I knew it would get a few chuckles and maybe some "Up yours, Killer".  Regardless, keep posting.[/quote]
Since you asked:  Up yours, Killer.::twak::

[Rosey]

[quote Killer]Meanwhile, as a transplanted Yankee fan, living in the Boston area, I'm wont to go off on a Red Sox-Yankees tangent every now and then, and clearly there are Sox fans on here ready to give it right back.[/quote]
As a fellow Yankee fan transplanted to Boston, I have reluctantly concluded that I picked the wrong decade to be a New York sports fan living in Boston.

[Killer]

[quote Al DeFlorio][quote Killer][quote Josh '99][quote Redscore]I had forgotten how clinical Ivy league students were.  Its actually quite sad.  My point was more about the groundswell of opinion in Cornell's favor rather than the the "softer" good things will come, part of my post. Im not surprised that the softer part of my quote was pounced upon on this thread.  Have fun guys, and now I'm truly sorry I even tried to step in here.  Its been a tough week and the last thing I need is a-holes from my own side.[/quote]

Huh?  Why are you sorry?  I thought your post was really nice.  I don't see anyone acting like a-holes in response to you.  Killer only related a personal (and somewhat off-topic) story and Jeff and DeltaOne responded to that.  Nobody disrespected you.

We all deal with frustration differently, and I appreciated the positivity to help with my healing process.[/quote]

Redscore, Josh/Rich is absolutely right.  I took no issue with your post, which I also thought was well stated, and I think it's great that we're getting the kind of response we are.  A number of people at my tennis club voiced similar sentiments when they saw me last week.

Meanwhile, as a transplanted Yankee fan, living in the Boston area, I'm wont to go off on a Red Sox-Yankees tangent every now and then, and clearly there are Sox fans on here ready to give it right back.  I knew it would get a few chuckles and maybe some "Up yours, Killer".  Regardless, keep posting.[/quote]
Since you asked:  Up yours, Killer.::twak::[/quote]

Thank you, sir.  May I have another?

You can always count on your eLynah buddies.

[RichH]

[quote Redscore]I felt, and continue to feel the pain that you all have described here but I want to put a silver lining on things.  Awful as it was, I really believe that what happened last weekend is going to have a hugely positive impact on the Cornell Lacrosse program.  I have been amazed by the number of people with non-Cornell backgrounds who came up to me and told me that they and their entire families were rooting hard for Cornell and that they were incredibly impressed by not only the way our team played, but also by the poise and class shown by the entire team and by Coach Tambroni and Max Siebald in particular.[/quote]

Yes, all this is true and a very good thing.  But is anyone else sick of having to take away *moral* victories all the time?  

Hockey:
2002: tied a rested #1 UHN late in the national QF.  The first real "respect" for CU on the national stage in decades.
2003: claims #1 overall NCAA seed, makes FF despite catcalls from the West that our record was inflated as a result of a weak SOS.
2005: Take Minnesota to OT on their home ice.
2006: Unbelievable 3-OT 0-0 goalie-duel vs. Wisconsin in Green Bay.  Bucky fans endlessly tell me at FF how that game was the *real* national championship game.

Lax:
2004: Emotional team playing for the memory of their fallen captain, loses a heartbreaker to Navy in the QF.
2007: Remarkable 9-goal 2nd half comeback to tie with 17 seconds left in SF vs notorious opponent.  Lose with 4 seconds left.
2009: You know what happened.

So lots of respect-building *moral* victories.  Why why why can't we grab a real victory one of these times and leave someone else with the moral part?

OK, venting over.  If I were a neutral fan, the game was freaking amazing.  I'm sure our run helped make more lax fans.  I'll even say that I'm an even bigger lacrosse fan than before after that experience.  I'm not too surprised that most neutral fans were pulling for us, given 1) SU's record of success (winning 5 of the last 10 championships) coupled with 2) Our long-suffering 32-year drought.  3) The Cinderella "nobody picked them" card.  People love underdogs.  4) CU's blue-collar style, hard-working, team-first persona.  5) I don't understand how anybody can watch Seibald and Glynn and not root for them.  

That said, given the volume of the cheer at the end of the game, I'm impressed by how many SU fans made the trip.

After both semis were blowouts, that final is exactly what the sport needed.  Glad we could give it to them, but I wish it could've been us this time.  :`-(

[Chris '03]

It's not in the same gut-wrenching class as the games you've listed, but I might add the "well, it was good for the program" Preakness weekend in Baltimore in 2002:
W. Lax: Drop semifinal in OT to Georgetown (loss consoled somewhat by the fact that PU would have probably wiped the floor with the Red for the title)
M. Lax: In the last game for Justin Cynar in goal and Addison Solag at the X, they lose to Johnny Christmas and co. in a great game that was close start to finish.

It's amazing how close Cornell was to final fours in three sports that year...

[peterg]

Still difficult to read about it all, but here's an interesting IJ article about next year and an interview with Coach T about the end of the game.

Picking Up the Pieces


Interview

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote peterg]Still difficult to read about it all, but here's an interesting IJ article about next year and an interview with Coach T about the end of the game.

Picking Up the Pieces


Interview[/quote]
Sounds like they discussed the "43 clear" during the 'Cuse time out but maybe they didn't talk about the "Gilman clear" (heave the ball far and high downfield) if someone was about to be trapped.  Or maybe Moyer thought he was clear of Nims?

[ugarte]

[quote Al DeFlorio]Sounds like they discussed the "43 clear" during the 'Cuse time out but maybe they didn't talk about the "Gilman clear" (heave the ball far and high downfield) if someone was about to be trapped.  Or maybe Moyer thought he was clear of Nims?[/quote]
It definitely sounds like they didn't discuss the "Gilman clear" and it is Coach T's biggest regret about how the game unfolded. In the end, if I can have one guy carrying the ball who needs to make a decision, Moyer is a guy I trust. Thinking about it still hurts a little.