Alumni in the Pros - April 2009

Started by KeithK, April 01, 2009, 04:39:54 PM

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ftyuv

[quote KeithK][quote ftyuv]Until Cornell gets its act together and offers consistent (and quality) video feeds of its games, I'm sorry to say, my "us" is only peripherally CU. Extremely peripherally. I like all y'all and that's why I continue to post here, but I just can't get all that excited about a team I can't watch.[/quote]
BLASPHEMY!!!  You will be cast out into hockey hell!!! (Maybe forced to attend every game at Bright when Cornell isn't there?)

I guess I understand your motivation but it's kind of sad that your connection to Cornell hockey is video dependant.  Spoiled kids![/quote]Well, I'm horrible at visualizing plays when I listen on the radio, and a hockey team isn't as fun to follow when you take away the hockey.

KeithK

[quote ftyuv]Well, I'm horrible at visualizing plays when I listen on the radio, and a hockey team isn't as fun to follow when you take away the hockey.[/quote]
So we need to get you some visualization exercises!

Rosey

[quote KeithK]I guess I understand your motivation but it's kind of sad that your connection to Cornell hockey is video dependant.  Spoiled kids![/quote]
He's not alone.  With the exception of the local Harvard games, I virtually ignored Cornell hockey from 1999 through 2002, and the lack of video was a large part of it.  I missed most of the careers of some of our best players, which saddens me... but that's life.
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Trotsky

Expectation = reality.  For those who grew up in an era when college hockey wasn't ever available on video, and rarely on audio outside the direct broadcast area, even scratchy audio over the net is a pleasure.

The "life" of hockey can be captured by a good PBP call. Grady was the best, but Jason's getting better with experience (even if he still can't pronounce "Carnelian" ;-) ).

KeithK

From time to time I'll leave the Sharks radio broadcast on rather than turning on the tube.  Sometimes I just like to have my eyes free for other tasks but if the PBP guy is good you can still picture the game pretty well.  Not quite as clearly as baseball perhaps but it's still a good experience.

redice

[quote Trotsky]
The "life" of hockey can be captured by a good PBP call. Grady was the best, but Jason's getting better with experience (even if he still can't pronounce "Carnelian" ;-) ).[/quote]

Correction:  Roy Ives was the best.   I have been listening to the home games (& attending them) for many years.   I was one of the first people to take a radio into Lynah.   So, I've had a lot of opportunity to compare the radio PBP to what I'm seeing on the ice.  

When Roy Ives said that the puck was in a certain place on the ice and/or in the possession of a certain player.....  That's exactly what I was seeing on the ice at that time.   No delays, no fudging.

Grady is certainly pretty good and Jason is holding his own, as well.   But, Roy Ives was in a class of his own.   Yes, when listening to Roy's calling of the game, you could sit there & visualize the action on the ice (for road games).   In addition to his accuracy, there was a flow to the game when listening to him.

I'm sorry the younger folks on here didn't get much of a chance to listen to his work.   The only recording of which I'm aware is the March 6, 1979 broadcast.
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

Jim Hyla

[quote Trotsky]Expectation = reality.  For those who grew up in an era when college hockey wasn't ever available on video, and rarely on audio outside the direct broadcast area, even scratchy audio over the net is a pleasure.

The "life" of hockey can be captured by a good PBP call. Grady was the best, but Jason's getting better with experience (even if he still can't pronounce "Carnelian" ;-) ).[/quote]Yes, indeed. Those of us who were pre video and even pre internet, if you can imagine, had to do a lot to catch a game. For the 1968 NCAAs I was in Boston. Obviously, no local broadcast there so we had our "Viewing Party" at a friends house where we wired a phone up to a radio. I called a friend in Ithaca who put his phone by his radio and in Boston we listened to the play by play. At that time long distance was by the minute so we disconnected and timed our call back for the next period. Hell, maybe I can say we invented the internet:-D or at least peer-to-peer.


And I do have to agree that Roy Ives was the best play by play broadcaster that I've heard for CU hockey.
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jtwcornell91

[quote Jim Hyla] Those of us who were pre video and even pre internet, if you can imagine, had to do a lot to catch a game. For the 1968 NCAAs I was in Boston. Obviously, no local broadcast there so we had our "Viewing Party" at a friends house where we wired a phone up to a radio. I called a friend in Ithaca who put his phone by his radio and in Boston we listened to the play by play. At that time long distance was by the minute so we disconnected and timed our call back for the next period. Hell, maybe I can say we invented the internet:-D or at least peer-to-peer..[/quote]

Or maybe Teamline...

Beeeej

[quote Jim Hyla]Obviously, no local broadcast there so we had our "Viewing Party" at a friends house where we wired a phone up to a radio. I called a friend in Ithaca who put his phone by his radio and in Boston we listened to the play by play. At that time long distance was by the minute so we disconnected and timed our call back for the next period.[/quote]

Luxury!!  When I was young, we had to watch for play-by-play smoke signals, and relayed the information by throwing rocks at the walls of the cave next door in Morse code patterns - and we liked it!!
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Larry72

For those of us who got to compare Roy with his direct predecessors on WHCU, Jay Levine and Sam Woodside along with some of the great radio voices of the NHL in days gone by, Roy was/is in a very elite class. He and his color guys (Tom Joseph in particular) created an incredibly accurate "verbal picture" of what was happening on the ice.  A rare talent.  Probably, the single greatest example of that talent was his call of missed open net and then game tying goal by Lance Nethery in the 1979 Providence -  Cornell game.  His call completely matched the video that was shot.  I still get "goose bumps" thinking about that game and that play.

Roy once said that he learned "hockey announcing" from listening to Foster Hewitt, the long-time radio voice of Hockey Night in Canada while growing up in western NY. For many years, radio was the only live coverage of most hockey games.

I agree that our current crop of Cornell radio announcers do a reasonably credible job and are quite good at calling the game for the home team,but not being blatant "homers".  In watching a number of the NHL playoff games recently, there are some announcer pairs who are painful to listen to in that regard!!!  And there are certainly many radio voices in college hockey who are the same!!!

Larry 72
Larry Baum '72
Ithaca, NY

redice

Yes, while recent CU Hockey announcers are not in Roy Ives' class, we are still lucky to have them.
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

Swampy

[quote ftyuv][quote KeithK][quote ftyuv]Until Cornell gets its act together and offers consistent (and quality) video feeds of its games, I'm sorry to say, my "us" is only peripherally CU. Extremely peripherally. I like all y'all and that's why I continue to post here, but I just can't get all that excited about a team I can't watch.[/quote]
BLASPHEMY!!!  You will be cast out into hockey hell!!! (Maybe forced to attend every game at Bright when Cornell isn't there?)

I guess I understand your motivation but it's kind of sad that your connection to Cornell hockey is video dependant.  Spoiled kids![/quote]Well, I'm horrible at visualizing plays when I listen on the radio, and a hockey team isn't as fun to follow when you take away the hockey.[/quote]

Oh, they still call the games at Bright when Cornell isn't there, "hockey." ::snore::

Trotsky

Murray v Parros (Princeton) in the final minute of the first period.  Apparently they go all the way back to HS.

I'd call it a draw.

Cowboy

Doug(las) Murray has been all over the ice in the first period of the Sharks-Ducks game. Two major hits and a fight with George Parros (Anaheim's enforcer, Princeton '03).

French Rage

Vesce had the game tying and game winning goals (in OT) for Worchester in their playoff series against Hartford, now down 2 games to 1.
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1