Clarkson Brainstorming Fun

[ben03]

does anyone have a photo record of the Golden Knights jerseypalooza?

subway anyone?

edit: see here for history but i feel this is missing some the latest atrocities

[daredevilcu]

Oh don't worry, the band is still coming.  And now thanks to some extra effort this week to get work out of the way before finals, so am I!  I'm looking forward to getting a good ::drunk:: on either before or after the game with some quality hockey fans.  Gonna be a good time, even if we get smoked.

[BMac]

FWIW, Brazil's actual uniforms are yellow and blue, not green and gold.

(Yes, I know that wasn't your point.)

I'm going to have to disagree with you here... as the resident Brazilian citizen on ELynah and the guy who happens to have a six-foot flag and both the regular and alternate jerseys hanging in his room, I think I'm qualified to say that the primary uniforms are gold with a green trim. Technically, it's canary yellow, not gold. But the yellow in the flag represents gold anyways, so feh.



The alternate jersey is blue.

You may have meant that the (two different) jerseys are (mostly) yellow and (mostly) blue, respectively. In any case,  :-)

In Portuguese, we say "o verde e amarelo," or "the green and yellow," as a way to referring to the team.

[LaJollaRed]

AHem:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/25/BluesNeverWorn.gif


Wearing that jersey would have sent a worse example to the kids than forfeiting.

[Josh '99]

[quote BMac]

FWIW, Brazil's actual uniforms are yellow and blue, not green and gold.

(Yes, I know that wasn't your point.)

I'm going to have to disagree with you here... as the resident Brazilian citizen on ELynah and the guy who happens to have a six-foot flag and both the regular and alternate jerseys hanging in his room, I think I'm qualified to say that the primary uniforms are gold with a green trim. Technically, it's canary yellow, not gold. But the yellow in the flag represents gold anyways, so feh.



The alternate jersey is blue.

You may have meant that the (two different) jerseys are (mostly) yellow and (mostly) blue, respectively. In any case,  :-)

In Portuguese, we say "o verde e amarelo," or "the green and yellow," as a way to referring to the team.[/quote]Actually, I meant yellow (canary yellow per your post) shirts and blue shorts.  Now that you clear it up I see what you meant when you said green and yellow though.

I thought the team was generally referred to as the selecao (pretend I put forth the effort to find the ASCII code for the c with the squiggly under it and the a with the tilde) though.

(Sorry for the thread drift, everyone else.)

[RichH]

[quote CowbellGuy]You don't say?

I agree with not changing jerseys, but I don't think the new Clarkson one is all that bad (at least compared to recent attempts). *cough*mustard*cough*[/quote]



The attempt that Clarkson made to use actual metallic gold...the year we played them in the finally dead Syracuse Hockey Invitational Tournament was hideous.  I love some of the traditional-looking Clarkson jerseys, but seriously...way too many changes from year-to-year.

[BMac]

Ooooh, ok. Gotcha, shorts. :-)

The team is normally referred to as "a seleção," you're correct. When referring to the team colors, it's "o verde e amarelo."

We can both be right. Yay!

(Why am I up at 7am??)

[Trotsky]

[quote KeithK][quote BMac]Clarkson's uniforms have apparently gotten even uglier.[/quote]
I will never understand why sports teams feel the need to constantly change their uniforms.  Especially teams that have been around a long time and have some tradition/history.  Pick a classic, clean look and stick with it.[/quote]

Money.  More uniforms means more pinheads buying third jerseys, alternate jerseys, special occasion jerseys, etc.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3285/2668900042_ea390f4f3d_o.jpg

[KeithK]

[quote Trotsky][quote KeithK][quote BMac]Clarkson's uniforms have apparently gotten even uglier.[/quote]
I will never understand why sports teams feel the need to constantly change their uniforms.  Especially teams that have been around a long time and have some tradition/history.  Pick a classic, clean look and stick with it.[/quote]

Money.  More uniforms means more pinheads buying third jerseys, alternate jerseys, special occasion jerseys, etc.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3285/2668900042_ea390f4f3d_o.jpg[/quote]
Yet somehow the Yankees, who haven't changed their uniform in any significant way in something like 70 years, still manage to make piles of money on merchandising.  They even sell loads of alternate color jerseys and hats and such all without the team wearing them on the field (I'm not counting spring training here).

Yes, the Yankees may not be representative.  But it still makes me think that a consistent look on the playing field/ice makes does a better job of establishing and maintaining a brand than constant changes.  But maybe I'm just projecting my preferences onto everyone else.

[Dpperk29]

[quote KeithK]
Yet somehow the Yankees, who haven't changed their uniform in any significant way in something like 70 years, still manage to make piles of money on merchandising.  They even sell loads of alternate color jerseys and hats and such all without the team wearing them on the field (I'm not counting spring training here).

Yes, the Yankees may not be representative.  But it still makes me think that a consistent look on the playing field/ice makes does a better job of establishing and maintaining a brand than constant changes.  But maybe I'm just projecting my preferences onto everyone else.[/quote]

How much of that is due to the perception that the Yankees are always among the best teams in baseball?

Personally, I like the happy medium of having set home and road jerseys and coming up with a new third Jersey every so often.

[Trotsky]

[quote KeithK]But maybe I'm just projecting my preferences onto everyone else.[/quote]You are, but you're also correct.


Aesthetically, third jerseys are almost always a disaster, since they're marketed as smash and grab, novelty items.  In fact, a horrendous train wreck of a jersey suits marketing purposes more than a low key, traditional one.  Nothing is a greater sin than "boring" in an infantilized culture.

[French Rage]

[quote Dpperk29][quote KeithK]
Yet somehow the Yankees, who haven't changed their uniform in any significant way in something like 70 years, still manage to make piles of money on merchandising.  They even sell loads of alternate color jerseys and hats and such all without the team wearing them on the field (I'm not counting spring training here).

Yes, the Yankees may not be representative.  But it still makes me think that a consistent look on the playing field/ice makes does a better job of establishing and maintaining a brand than constant changes.  But maybe I'm just projecting my preferences onto everyone else.[/quote]

How much of that is due to the perception that the Yankees are always among the best teams in baseball?

Personally, I like the happy medium of having set home and road jerseys and coming up with a new third Jersey every so often.[/quote]

If the team is doing better, it's easy to sell alot of merchandise due to the increased fanbase due to onfield success.  You'll notice it seems to be the Arizona Cardinals or Toronto Blue Jays of the world that are constantly changing their uniforms, because really how else will they get people to buy new jerseys?

[Dpperk29]

[quote French Rage][quote Dpperk29][quote KeithK]
Yet somehow the Yankees, who haven't changed their uniform in any significant way in something like 70 years, still manage to make piles of money on merchandising.  They even sell loads of alternate color jerseys and hats and such all without the team wearing them on the field (I'm not counting spring training here).

Yes, the Yankees may not be representative.  But it still makes me think that a consistent look on the playing field/ice makes does a better job of establishing and maintaining a brand than constant changes.  But maybe I'm just projecting my preferences onto everyone else.[/quote]

How much of that is due to the perception that the Yankees are always among the best teams in baseball?

Personally, I like the happy medium of having set home and road jerseys and coming up with a new third Jersey every so often.[/quote]

If the team is doing better, it's easy to sell alot of merchandise due to the increased fanbase due to onfield success.  You'll notice it seems to be the Arizona Cardinals or Toronto Blue Jays of the world that are constantly changing their uniforms, because really how else will they get people to buy new jerseys?[/quote]

develop talent and win games?

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

I like the Flyers' latest approach.  Their "new" third jersey is a throwback to the ones worn during the Broad Street Bullies era (though more orange than the unis back then).  And as a traditionalist, I like that they keep the same logo.

But if they try to bring back the long pants...::yark::

[RichH]

[quote Trotsky]Money.  More uniforms means more pinheads buying third jerseys, alternate jerseys, special occasion jerseys, etc.[/quote]

Yeah, but considering that Clarkson is a pretty small fanbase (comparatively to other teams that make tons of jerseys.  See next paragraph), do they really expect this to be a significant windfall?  You have Ma and Pa Potsdam who bought jerseys in the mid-90s that they still wear to games, and then every four years you pretty much have a complete turnover of students, and they'll buy the jerseys & merch. from their time in the Northcountry and keep them and wear them to reunions and other alumni gatherings.

This is no slight to Clarkson.  For their size and location, they have a wonderful following.  Compare them to say, Michigan, Minnesota, and North Dakota, where they have the attention of an entire state of people who have no connection whatsoever to the University...hanging on every move the team makes and every marketing gimmicky change they make to the logo and/or uniforms, it PAYS BIG to make 18 different styles with block logos and script logos and dazzle fabrics and diagonal stripes and special throwbacks and glow-in-the-dark and and and...

Maybe it just happens to be who teams have working in their sports marketing department at the time.  Like the arena announcer who acts like he's working for the CHICAAAAGOOOOOOOOOOO BULLLLLLLS!!!!  When announcing in front of 450 people in Starr Rink or at Quinnipiac U, the people making the decision of what unis to get decide to follow trends rather than tradition.  "Yo, we could be like Syracuse or North Carolina if we got THIS!"