Dartmouth Post-game

Josh '99 · November 24, 2008, 11:05:58 AM

[quote oceanst41][quote Robb][quote sah67]From today's IJ:

[quote Ithaca Journal] Ross was injured in the third period on a collision with forechecking Dartmouth winger Rob Pitchard. No penalty was called on the play, but Schafer said the video tells a different story.

"We'll send it in (to the league office) for supplemental discipline," he said. "It was definitely knee-to-knee contact. We'll see what happens."

Ross returned to the game about 10 minutes later, but was used sparingly.

"It was just a little sore," Schafer added. "We kept him out for precautionary (reasons). [/quote]

Anyone see this hit?[/quote]
The Redcast video missed it, since it was a ways behind the play and along the near boards, but the announcers definitely described it real-time as a knee-to-knee hit.[/quote]

Jason definitely stressed the knee-to-knee nature of the hit, and seemed to be expecting a penalty.[/quote]Even the homerish Dartmouth radio guys seemed surprised that no penalty was called, if I recall correctly; but then, they were on the refs all game long for the let-them-play style of officiating.

CowbellGuy · November 24, 2008, 12:39:28 PM

[quote Ronald '09]4) Brendan Nash's play in his own zone is lacking. He is the weakest of our defensemen positionally. In the offensive zone, too many of his point shots either hit glass or the opposing players in the knees. I would say he has been a disappointment overall through 6 games.[/quote]

It's easy to find a few problems with the guy when he's on pretty much every other shift and almost always carries the puck out. The only time I thought he really looked bad was last Saturday against Colgate, but it turned out there was a very good reason for it. Don't mistake calmness with the puck as slowness or laziness. Most of the time he makes good decisions where his teammates would more likely be happy to get the red line and dump.

Dpperk29 · November 24, 2008, 01:15:22 PM

[quote CowbellGuy][quote Ronald '09]4) Brendan Nash's play in his own zone is lacking. He is the weakest of our defensemen positionally. In the offensive zone, too many of his point shots either hit glass or the opposing players in the knees. I would say he has been a disappointment overall through 6 games.[/quote]

It's easy to find a few problems with the guy when he's on pretty much every other shift and almost always carries the puck out. The only time I thought he really looked bad was last Saturday against Colgate, but it turned out there was a very good reason for it. Don't mistake calmness with the puck as slowness or laziness. Most of the time he makes good decisions where his teammates would more likely be happy to get the red line and dump.[/quote]

I agree. Even the couple times I saw him last year he looked really solid in his own zone. From section G row 3 he looked to be skating the puck out of the zone very well during the harvard game.

There was one shift during the harvard game where he seemed to forget how to skate backwards though. He just fell over twice while backing up, no sticks, pucks, or people near him.

ebilmes · November 24, 2008, 01:59:14 PM

[quote Josh '99]I don't know that I recall that weekend feeling like a disaster. Lenny was away at the WJC, remember, so Marr was seeing his first ever action in college games; Maine came into the weekend 13-1-2 and #2 in the USCHO poll (Cornell was #3), though, to be fair, also without their starting goalie; and Ohio State was #11 and 12-4-1. This wasn't Princeton (that's 2002-03 3-26-2 Princeton, not 2008-09 defending ECAC champion Princeton) that Cornell was losing to. Plus we knew that Cornell had beaten OSU in their own barn at the beginning of the season, so there wasn't too much worry about that loss. And then Marr backstopped the sweep in the North Country the following weekend, so any panic there might have been went away fairly quickly.[/quote]

I agree with you completely, Josh. Those were two good teams and we lost close games each day (3-2, 1-0). Marr only gave up 4 goals in the 2 games. If Scrivens was out for a weekend and Davenport or Garman gave up 2 goals each night, we'd call that a good performance given the circumstances. Cornell rebounded quickly and only lost one more game en route to the Frozen Four.

ugarte · November 24, 2008, 02:05:39 PM

[quote CowbellGuy][quote Ronald '09]4) Brendan Nash's play in his own zone is lacking. He is the weakest of our defensemen positionally. In the offensive zone, too many of his point shots either hit glass or the opposing players in the knees. I would say he has been a disappointment overall through 6 games.[/quote]

It's easy to find a few problems with the guy when he's on pretty much every other shift and almost always carries the puck out. The only time I thought he really looked bad was last Saturday against Colgate, but it turned out there was a very good reason for it. Don't mistake calmness with the puck as slowness or laziness. Most of the time he makes good decisions where his teammates would more likely be happy to get the red line and dump.[/quote]
This sounds exactly like the pro/con argument that used to go on re: O'Byrne.

Chris '03 · November 24, 2008, 02:25:41 PM

[quote ebilmes][quote Josh '99]Cornell rebounded quickly and only lost one more game en route to the Frozen Four.[/quote]

No goal. Shoulda been a tie. ::cuss::

Josh '99 · November 24, 2008, 02:29:24 PM

[quote Chris '03]No goal. Shoulda been a tie. ::cuss::[/quote]Lenny was interfered with.

jtwcornell91 · November 24, 2008, 02:50:45 PM

[quote ebilmes][quote Josh '99]I don't know that I recall that weekend feeling like a disaster. Lenny was away at the WJC, remember, so Marr was seeing his first ever action in college games; Maine came into the weekend 13-1-2 and #2 in the USCHO poll (Cornell was #3), though, to be fair, also without their starting goalie; and Ohio State was #11 and 12-4-1. This wasn't Princeton (that's 2002-03 3-26-2 Princeton, not 2008-09 defending ECAC champion Princeton) that Cornell was losing to. Plus we knew that Cornell had beaten OSU in their own barn at the beginning of the season, so there wasn't too much worry about that loss. And then Marr backstopped the sweep in the North Country the following weekend, so any panic there might have been went away fairly quickly.[/quote]

I agree with you completely, Josh. Those were two good teams and we lost close games each day (3-2, 1-0). Marr only gave up 4 goals in the 2 games.[/quote]

Actually, Marr only gave up three goals, since the game-winner for Maine was an empty-netter scored when we were down 2-1 and had pulled him for the extra skater. I still say 1) he should have been all-tournament goalie and 2) he played better in the two losses in Florida than in the two wins in the North Country.

Jordan 04 · November 24, 2008, 03:01:06 PM

In addition, Doug Murray delivered the biggest hit I have ever seen him deliver during his collegiate career in the consolation game, so it couldn't have been a complete disaster, save for his victim.

Josh '99 · November 24, 2008, 03:13:57 PM

[quote Jordan 04]In addition, Doug Murray delivered the biggest hit I have ever seen him deliver during his collegiate career in the consolation game, so it couldn't have been a complete disaster, save for his victim.[/quote]Heh, I think I'd forgotten about that. Dude never saw him coming.

Rosey · November 24, 2008, 03:44:16 PM

[quote Jordan 04]In addition, Douglas Murray delivered the biggest hit I have ever seen him deliver during his collegiate career in the consolation game, so it couldn't have been a complete disaster, save for his victim.[/quote]
FYP.

Al DeFlorio · November 24, 2008, 06:09:10 PM

[quote Kyle Rose][quote Jordan 04]In addition, Douglas Murray delivered the biggest hit I have ever seen him deliver during his collegiate career in the consolation game, so it couldn't have been a complete disaster, save for his victim.[/quote]
FYP.[/quote]
He was still Doug then.;-)

Rosey · November 24, 2008, 07:02:42 PM

[quote Al DeFlorio][quote Kyle Rose][quote Jordan 04]In addition, Douglas Murray delivered the biggest hit I have ever seen him deliver during his collegiate career in the consolation game, so it couldn't have been a complete disaster, save for his victim.[/quote]
FYP.[/quote]
He was still Doug then.;-)[/quote]
No, he was always Douglas: he was just quiet about it then. :-D

French Rage · November 24, 2008, 07:43:30 PM

[quote Al DeFlorio][quote Kyle Rose][quote Jordan 04]In addition, Douglas Murray delivered the biggest hit I have ever seen him deliver during his collegiate career in the consolation game, so it couldn't have been a complete disaster, save for his victim.[/quote]
FYP.[/quote]
He was still Doug then.;-)[/quote]

Always Dougie to the people in my section, as in "Fuck 'em up Dougie!"

jtwcornell91 · November 25, 2008, 02:46:38 AM

[quote Kyle Rose][quote Al DeFlorio][quote Kyle Rose][quote Jordan 04]In addition, Douglas Murray delivered the biggest hit I have ever seen him deliver during his collegiate career in the consolation game, so it couldn't have been a complete disaster, save for his victim.[/quote]
FYP.[/quote]
He was still Doug then.;-)[/quote]
No, he was always Douglas: he was just quiet about it then. :-D[/quote]

Is he also allowed to wear the snakeskin pants now that he's in the show?