Harvard Hockey - Trouble in Paradise?

[ugarte]

[quote Swampy]Well, the list actually goes up to 55 (Drek Tech -- now that will start a war), but my Firefox browser must be broken. When I search for Clarkson, nothing comes up.[/quote]
You will find them, however, on the unranked recommended programs page.

Unless it is your sincere belief that Clarkson is a mediocre school - and I think you are merely engaging in RichS baiting* - please cut this out.

* Pot calling the kettle black? Sure, sure, I'm in no position to be the moral authority on this sort of thing ... but this doesn't feel the same as our usual game: getting him frothing about stupid harmless stuff like syphilitic players or assault-y coaches with a quick trigger on mediocre goalies. This is gobs more personal and drags in guys like dpperk who have done nothing to deserve mockery.

[Rich S]

[quote ugarte][quote Swampy]Well, the list actually goes up to 55 (Drek Tech -- now that will start a war), but my Firefox browser must be broken. When I search for Clarkson, nothing comes up.[/quote]
You will find them, however, on the unranked recommended programs page.

Unless it is your sincere belief that Clarkson is a mediocre school - and I think you are merely engaging in RichS baiting* - please cut this out.

* Pot calling the kettle black? Sure, sure, I'm in no position to be the moral authority on this sort of thing ... but this doesn't feel the same as our usual game: getting him frothing about stupid harmless stuff like syphilitic players or assault-y coaches with a quick trigger on mediocre goalies. This is gobs more personal and drags in guys like dpperk who have done nothing to deserve mockery.[/quote]

You're quite full of yourself.  Not surprising really.

Frothing?  Hmmm...I don't see personal attacks such as the kind you direct at Nickerson and Morris, whether in person or online, as truly "harmless stuff."  Tasteless, classless, and mean-spirited is a better description.  I'd expect better from ivy-educated types.  But maybe the inherent arrogance running rampant here explains it.  

In the Morris case, most cornell posters have no knowledge of the most important facts of that case, so you come off poorly when trying to speako authoritatively about it.

"Mediocre goalies?"  Considering the records of Dan Murphy and Chris Bernard, you have just redefined "mediocre."  Don't let the facts get in the way, eh?

Feel free to continue the "persoanl mockery."  It's both amusing and pathetic at the same time.  And you're correct; you're in no position to be a moral authority.

[mnagowski]

I'd expect better from ivy-educated types.

You forget we attended the Godless university.

[Rich S]

[quote Swampy][quote Trotsky]Graduateshotline.com

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Cal Berkeley
4. Cal Tech
5. Illinois Urbana-Champaign
6. Georgia Tech
7. University of Michigan
8. Cornell University
9. Carnegie Mellon
10. UT Austin
11. Everybody else

Now we can go back to talking about how Harvard sucks.[/quote]

Well, the list actually goes up to 55 (Drek Tech -- now that will start a war), but my Firefox browser must be broken. When I search for Clarkson, nothing comes up.[/quote]

Guess you filtered out "third rate tech schools."  ::rolleyes::

[ugarte]

[quote Rich S][quote ugarte][quote Swampy]Well, the list actually goes up to 55 (Drek Tech -- now that will start a war), but my Firefox browser must be broken. When I search for Clarkson, nothing comes up.[/quote]
You will find them, however, on the unranked recommended programs page.

Unless it is your sincere belief that Clarkson is a mediocre school - and I think you are merely engaging in RichS baiting* - please cut this out.

* Pot calling the kettle black? Sure, sure, I'm in no position to be the moral authority on this sort of thing ... but this doesn't feel the same as our usual game: getting him frothing about stupid harmless stuff like syphilitic players or assault-y coaches with a quick trigger on mediocre goalies. This is gobs more personal and drags in guys like dpperk who have done nothing to deserve mockery.[/quote]

You're quite full of yourself.  Not surprising really.

Frothing?  Hmmm...I don't see personal attacks such as the kind you direct at Nickerson and Morris, whether in person or online, as truly "harmless stuff."  Tasteless, classless, and mean-spirited is a better description.  I'd expect better from ivy-educated types.  But maybe the inherent arrogance running rampant here explains it.  

In the Morris case, most cornell posters have no knowledge of the most important facts of that case, so you come off poorly when trying to speako authoritatively about it.

"Mediocre goalies?"  Considering the records of Dan Murphy and Chris Bernard, you have just redefined "mediocre."  Don't let the facts get in the way, eh?

Feel free to continue the "persoanl mockery."  It's both amusing and pathetic at the same time.  And you're correct; you're in no position to be a moral authority.[/quote]
This, for the record, is frothing.

[Dpperk29]

[quote ugarte][quote Swampy]Well, the list actually goes up to 55 (Drek Tech -- now that will start a war), but my Firefox browser must be broken. When I search for Clarkson, nothing comes up.[/quote]
You will find them, however, on the unranked recommended programs page.

Unless it is your sincere belief that Clarkson is a mediocre school - and I think you are merely engaging in RichS baiting* - please cut this out.

* Pot calling the kettle black? Sure, sure, I'm in no position to be the moral authority on this sort of thing ... but this doesn't feel the same as our usual game: getting him frothing about stupid harmless stuff like syphilitic players or assault-y coaches with a quick trigger on mediocre goalies. This is gobs more personal and drags in guys like dpperk who have done nothing to deserve mockery.[/quote]

thank you, I must say, it has been fun to watch though.

[Rich S]

[quote ugarte][quote Rich S][quote ugarte][quote Swampy]Well, the list actually goes up to 55 (Drek Tech -- now that will start a war), but my Firefox browser must be broken. When I search for Clarkson, nothing comes up.[/quote]
You will find them, however, on the unranked recommended programs page.

Unless it is your sincere belief that Clarkson is a mediocre school - and I think you are merely engaging in RichS baiting* - please cut this out.

* Pot calling the kettle black? Sure, sure, I'm in no position to be the moral authority on this sort of thing ... but this doesn't feel the same as our usual game: getting him frothing about stupid harmless stuff like syphilitic players or assault-y coaches with a quick trigger on mediocre goalies. This is gobs more personal and drags in guys like dpperk who have done nothing to deserve mockery.[/quote]

You're quite full of yourself.  Not surprising really.

Frothing?  Hmmm...I don't see personal attacks such as the kind you direct at Nickerson and Morris, whether in person or online, as truly "harmless stuff."  Tasteless, classless, and mean-spirited is a better description.  I'd expect better from ivy-educated types.  But maybe the inherent arrogance running rampant here explains it.  

In the Morris case, most cornell posters have no knowledge of the most important facts of that case, so you come off poorly when trying to speak authoritatively about it.

"Mediocre goalies?"  Considering the records of Dan Murphy and Chris Bernard, you have just redefined "mediocre."  Don't let the facts get in the way, eh?

Feel free to continue the "personal mockery."  It's both amusing and pathetic at the same time.  And you're correct; you're in no position to be a moral authority.[/quote]
This, for the record, is frothing.[/quote]

As opposed to just "responding" to your inaccurate and rather snarky comments?  I know frothing when I see it, and that ain't it.

Given your sig as a "cranky bastard", I'm not surprised.   Have you checked the records of the "mediocre" Murphy and Bernard yet?

Feel free to educate the rest of us when you have.

[jas27]

I heard Harvard lost a few key players this year.  I wonder how they're going to stack up?  Any good new recruits?  How do CU's recruits compare?

You're welcome.

[TimV]

Please?::yark::

[Lauren '06]

You know, just because it's there doesn't mean you have to read it.  Everybody who checks this thread knows what it's turned into, and--hey--the Harvard roster question has been cleared up.  So hit the "mark as read" button and move on, eh?

[TimV]

After 70 posts you join this flame-fest and become The Sheriff?::moon::

[Swampy]

[quote Rich S][quote Swampy][quote Trotsky]Graduateshotline.com

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Cal Berkeley
4. Cal Tech
5. Illinois Urbana-Champaign
6. Georgia Tech
7. University of Michigan
8. Cornell University
9. Carnegie Mellon
10. UT Austin
11. Everybody else

Now we can go back to talking about how Harvard sucks.[/quote]

Well, the list actually goes up to 55 (Drek Tech -- now that will start a war), but my Firefox browser must be broken. When I search for Clarkson, nothing comes up.[/quote]

Guess you filtered out "third rate tech schools."  ::rolleyes::[/quote]

No, but thanks for pointing this out. I had the filter for "safety schools" turned on. ::deadhorse::

[BMac]

Although I'm a current Cornell engineering grad student and BS alum, I must say: I have no qualification whatsoever to judge Clarkson's academic merit.

That is, other than that I'm an engineering grad student and I have never ever heard of Clarkson other than regarding hockey. Also, I have been applying to top firms and always read the list of schools they recruit in- we're usually on it, with a few exceptions. Great engineering schools like Michigan and Illinois oftentimes are not.

In any case, I'm amused to see an alum from Clarkson who clearly cares about what we think of his school. Most people would give up by now, due to frustration and by recognizing the childishness of being the one guy still trying to convince all the other kids in the playground that he isn't stupid.

Keep on truckin'! It's better than studying at 1:23am on a Sunday night, anyways.

[Dpperk29]

[quote BMac]Although I'm a current Cornell engineering grad student and BS alum, I must say: I have no qualification whatsoever to judge Clarkson's academic merit.

That is, other than that I'm an engineering grad student and I have never ever heard of Clarkson other than regarding hockey. Also, I have been applying to top firms and always read the list of schools they recruit in- we're usually on it, with a few exceptions. Great engineering schools like Michigan and Illinois oftentimes are not.

In any case, I'm amused to see an alum from Clarkson who clearly cares about what we think of his school. Most people would give up by now, due to frustration and by recognizing the childishness of being the one guy still trying to convince all the other kids in the playground that he isn't stupid.

Keep on truckin'! It's better than studying at 1:23am on a Sunday night, anyways.[/quote]

My impression of Clarkson's reputation is that it is very good in the northeast and tapers off the farther south and west you go.

I am doing a Co-op with General Electric this semester, and it seems that half the engineers here are Clarkson grads (it might not be half, but at least the dept I am in it is). Talking to other friends who have interned (or have fulltime jobs) with large companies (Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, IBM, Raytheon, Siemens, etc) I get the impression that those who are located in the Northeast work with a lot of Clarkson Engineers.

Obviously schools like Cornell, Michigan, Georgia Tech, Illinois, and other large schools will have a better reputation nationally due to the vast difference in the number of graduates every year. Clarkson only graduates approximately 600-800 students a year, and probably 400-600 of those are engineers. I am sure Cornell graduates significantly more every year. Clarkson has 200 companies actively recruiting Clarkson grads, and 140 companies were at the career fair last month, pretty impressive numbers for a small school in the middle of nowhere.


All that being said, I am a firm believer that the quality of an engineer has a lot more to do with the person than the school. I am sure there are a lot of bad engineers from Cornell (and Clarkson for that matter) out there building bridges, elevators, airplanes, cars, and other things we trust our lives to everyday.

That is my opinion as a Clarkson student, but your mileage may vary

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Dpperk29]Clarkson only graduates approximately 600-800 students a year, and probably 400-600 of those are engineers. I am sure Cornell graduates significantly more every year.[/quote]
Cornell awards about 700 undergraduate engineering degrees each year.