Who's staying, who's going?

[calgARI '07]

[quote KeithK]
Let's assume that Edmonton wants Riley to sign this summer and he is inclined to stay.  Isn't there a dollar cap on what the Oilers can offer him for his initial contract?  If I'm remembering that right then wouldn't he be pretty likely to get the same offer a year from now?

What I'm getting at is how much inducement can a team provide to a kis who wants to stay in school?  I guess they could guarantee NHL playing time or at least a roster spot.  But it doesn't seem like there's much flexibility to bowl the kid over with cash.

(Not that $850k or whatever is anything to sneeze at.)[/quote]

Rookie max is 875,000 for contracts signed for the season and I believe it'll increase to 900,000 for contracts signed for next season.  It was at 850,000 right after the new CBA was signed but I think it will max out at 900,000.  If Nash leaves this summer he won't be in the NHL next year even if he signs an entry level deal.  He'll go to training camp and they'll either put him in Springfield or in the WHL depending on where the Oilers think he fits.

[Josh '99]

[quote KeithK][quote Josh '99]Riley got pushed around by bigger players some this weekend, in my opinion.  If that's a concern for Edmonton, he's not going to put on weight anywhere else any faster than he would here.[/quote]
I suspect most players would bulk up faster on a professional weight training program than they would in school.  Nothing against Cornell's training program but not having a prelim to worry about makes it easier to spend ridiculous hours in the gym.[/quote]I see your point, but Schafer and his staff have been very successful in this department in the past.

[TShen]

[quote KeithK][quote Josh '99]Riley got pushed around by bigger players some this weekend, in my opinion.  If that's a concern for Edmonton, he's not going to put on weight anywhere else any faster than he would here.[/quote]
I suspect most players would bulk up faster on a professional weight training program than they would in school.  Nothing against Cornell's training program but not having a prelim to worry about makes it easier to spend ridiculous hours in the gym.[/quote]

Yeah, but I'd think college season should actually give the players more time to bulk up over the summer.

[billhoward]

[quote TShen][quote KeithK][quote Josh '99]Riley got pushed around by bigger players some this weekend, in my opinion.  If that's a concern for Edmonton, he's not going to put on weight anywhere else any faster than he would here.[/quote]
I suspect most players would bulk up faster on a professional weight training program than they would in school.  Nothing against Cornell's training program but not having a prelim to worry about makes it easier to spend ridiculous hours in the gym.[/quote]

Yeah, but I'd think college season should actually give the players more time to bulk up over the summer.[/quote]
The NHL has lots of bulk-up programs. Cornell has the hot truck. Secret weapon.

[Will]

[quote billhoward][quote TShen][quote KeithK][quote Josh '99]Riley got pushed around by bigger players some this weekend, in my opinion.  If that's a concern for Edmonton, he's not going to put on weight anywhere else any faster than he would here.[/quote]
I suspect most players would bulk up faster on a professional weight training program than they would in school.  Nothing against Cornell's training program but not having a prelim to worry about makes it easier to spend ridiculous hours in the gym.[/quote]

Yeah, but I'd think college season should actually give the players more time to bulk up over the summer.[/quote]
The NHL has lots of bulk-up programs. Cornell has the hot truck. Secret weapon.[/quote]Too bad Hot Truck scaled back its hours.  Besides, Riley's a freshman, so his loyalties are with Louie's.

[KeithK]

[quote Will][quote billhoward][quote TShen][quote KeithK][quote Josh '99]Riley got pushed around by bigger players some this weekend, in my opinion.  If that's a concern for Edmonton, he's not going to put on weight anywhere else any faster than he would here.[/quote]
I suspect most players would bulk up faster on a professional weight training program than they would in school.  Nothing against Cornell's training program but not having a prelim to worry about makes it easier to spend ridiculous hours in the gym.[/quote]

Yeah, but I'd think college season should actually give the players more time to bulk up over the summer.[/quote]
The NHL has lots of bulk-up programs. Cornell has the hot truck. Secret weapon.[/quote]Too bad Hot Truck scaled back its hours.  Besides, Riley's a freshman, so his loyalties are with Louie's.[/quote]
And that's reason #1 why the whole all freshmen on North thing is just wrong!

[Robb]

Jeez.  Don't scare me like that.  I come to the eLF, and there are 17 new posts in a thread about players leaving...  What am I supposed to think?

::thud::

[puckstopper2]

[quote Robb]Jeez.  Don't scare me like that.  I come to the eLF, and there are 17 new posts in a thread about players leaving...  What am I supposed to think?

::thud::[/quote]
I assumed it would be 15 post about how the webcast wasn't working.::rolleyes::

[pfibiger]

Brandon Thomas in the IJ thinks Riley Nash will be back next year. Though it's just as speculative as this thread, but he does back it up with a little rumor

http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080325/SPORTS/803250322

[Jim Hyla]

[quote pfibiger]Brandon Thomas in the IJ thinks Riley Nash will be back next year. Though it's just as speculative as this thread, but he does back it up with a little rumor

http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080325/SPORTS/803250322[/quote]
As an aside, I thought he has been the best CU hockey reporter in a long time. He generally writes well and on target. So I tend to think he knows of what he speaks.

[Beeeej]

[quote puckstopper2][quote Robb]Jeez.  Don't scare me like that.  I come to the eLF, and there are 17 new posts in a thread about players leaving...  What am I supposed to think?

::thud::[/quote]
I assumed it would be 15 post about how the webcast wasn't working.::rolleyes::[/quote]

I thought it was going to be about The Clash.

[Josh '99]

[quote pfibiger]Brandon Thomas in the IJ thinks Riley Nash will be back next year. Though it's just as speculative as this thread, but he does back it up with a little rumor

http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080325/SPORTS/803250322[/quote]

Only 215 days or so until we start to see answers.

That's a long time.  :-/

[Trotsky]

[quote Jim Hyla]I thought he has been the best CU hockey reporter in a long time. He generally writes well and on target.[/quote]Agreed.  Hockey writing is very difficult -- there are too many Dickie Dunns out there, and we've had our share.  But this guy has been consistently good, and actually appears to understand the game.

[ForkEmDevils]

[quote Beeeej][quote puckstopper2][quote Robb]Jeez.  Don't scare me like that.  I come to the eLF, and there are 17 new posts in a thread about players leaving...  What am I supposed to think?

::thud::[/quote]
I assumed it would be 15 post about how the webcast wasn't working.::rolleyes::[/quote]

I thought it was going to be about The Clash.[/quote]
lol.  Let's throw in some basketball scores and more bs about the school bands.  
Since I have insight into the team and coaching which I won't go into.  Don't even bother to PM me cuz I won't tell you.   I think many will be surprised on who leaves for the upcoming season.  With the way this team is coached I'm surprised anyone sticks around. The Keenan approach of not communicating with your players doesn't work in this era.

[French Rage]

Oh good, the offseason, time to go through this crap again.