Fifth down Game

Jim Hyla · November 24, 2007, 12:45:55 PM

Found these in a Nov8^th Sun. Nice to reread about it and to think about football games as just being for fun, especially at this time of year.

Quote from: From the Part I ArticleI think the majority of people in my generation did that, Conti said. [Football] was a fun thing that you did with a bunch of people that you enjoyed being with.

Part I: Return to Glory Under Snavely
Part II: The Fifth Down Game
Part III: The Nation Reacts in the Wake of Concession

Beeeej · November 24, 2007, 12:50:46 PM

[quote Sun]If only they could act like Cornell had in conceding a win to Dartmouth after videotape showed that the Red had won on an illegal fifth down.[/quote]

"Videotape"? In 1940? *sigh*

Al DeFlorio · November 24, 2007, 02:47:52 PM

[quote Beeeej][quote Sun]If only they could act like Cornell had in conceding a win to Dartmouth after videotape showed that the Red had won on an illegal fifth down.[/quote]

"Videotape"? In 1940? *sigh*[/quote]
Didn't you know that videotape was invented with only 2:21 remaining in riding time?::screwy::

Beeeej · November 24, 2007, 02:52:27 PM

[quote Al DeFlorio][quote Beeeej][quote Sun]If only they could act like Cornell had in conceding a win to Dartmouth after videotape showed that the Red had won on an illegal fifth down.[/quote]

"Videotape"? In 1940? *sigh*[/quote]
Didn't you know that videotape was invented with only 2:21 remaining in riding time?::screwy::[/quote]

...with Ken Dryden backstopping it.

billhoward · November 25, 2007, 05:40:24 PM

[quote Beeeej][quote Al DeFlorio][quote Beeeej][quote Sun]If only they could act like Cornell had in conceding a win to Dartmouth after videotape showed that the Red had won on an illegal fifth down.[/quote]

"Videotape"? In 1940? *sigh*[/quote]
Didn't you know that videotape was invented with only 2:21 remaining in riding time?::screwy::[/quote]

...with Ken Dryden backstopping it.[/quote]
Then Dryden conclusively was the goalie of the 29-0-0 team.

[Postscript to MSG Night: A handful of players from 1967 and 1970 were there and introduced including goaltender [pause] Bob Rule.]

Jim Hyla · November 25, 2007, 05:55:56 PM

[quote billhoward][Postscript to MSG Night: A handful of players from 1967 and 1970 were there and introduced including goaltender [pause] Bob Rule.][/quote]

I don't know what you mean by the pause. He was a goalie for the 70 team.

billhoward · November 25, 2007, 06:15:42 PM

[quote Jim Hyla][quote billhoward][Postscript to MSG Night: A handful of players from 1967 and 1970 were there and introduced including goaltender [pause] Bob Rule.][/quote]

I don't know what you mean by the pause. He was a goalie for the 70 team.[/quote]
Bob Rule was a goalie for the hockey team. Brian Cropper was The Goalie for the team and god help us if Cropper went down. Rule's brilliance was tending nets for Canada's other national sport and that he did wonderfully until he went down late in the 1971 championship season but fortunately the lacrosse backup, Bob Buhmann, was essentially as good, and so Cornell rolled past Maryland 12-6 for the title.

No offense intended to Bob Rule, but if fans wanted to applaud one goalie from the 1960s it would have been Dryden, and if you applauded one goalie from the 1969-70 hockey title team, it would have been Brian Cropper. There were only a half dozen members from each of the 1967 and 1970 teams at MSG, as opposed to the entire teams. Not that the night wasn't awesome with just a half dozen, and not that having the entire teams would have reduced the sting of BU's victory.

Jim Hyla · November 25, 2007, 09:13:33 PM

[quote billhoward][quote Jim Hyla][quote billhoward][Postscript to MSG Night: A handful of players from 1967 and 1970 were there and introduced including goaltender [pause] Bob Rule.][/quote]

I don't know what you mean by the pause. He was a goalie for the 70 team.[/quote]
Bob Rule was a goalie for the hockey team. Brian Cropper was The Goalie for the team and god help us if Cropper went down. Rule's brilliance was tending nets for Canada's other national sport and that he did wonderfully until he went down late in the 1971 championship season but fortunately the lacrosse backup, Bob Buhmann, was essentially as good, and so Cornell rolled past Maryland 12-6 for the title.

No offense intended to Bob Rule, but if fans wanted to applaud one goalie from the 1960s it would have been Dryden, and if you applauded one goalie from the 1969-70 hockey title team, it would have been Brian Cropper. There were only a half dozen members from each of the 1967 and 1970 teams at MSG, as opposed to the entire teams. Not that the night wasn't awesome with just a half dozen, and not that having the entire teams would have reduced the sting of BU's victory.[/quote]

All that you've said I know; it's just that with your [pause] you seemed to imply that he was either not a hockey goalie or didn't deserve introduction. He provided a valuable service when Coach Harkness was in need. I just didn't want him slighted.

jtwcornell91 · November 26, 2007, 03:49:11 AM

There seemed to be a shortage of alumni goalies Saturday night, with no Brian Cropper, no Ken Dryden, and no Jim Craig.

billhoward · November 26, 2007, 07:50:20 PM

[quote jtwcornell91]There seemed to be a shortage of alumni goalies Saturday night, with no Brian Cropper, no Ken Dryden, and no Jim Craig.[/quote]

There was a shortage of players, period. But then, it wasn't supposed to be about the famous alumni players coming back.

I bet here's what happened:

MSG told Cornell and BU each could have a syrupy Jumbotron (not so jumbo in their case) and on-ice salute to themselves, Cornell after the first, BU after the second. So Cornell and BU rush off to their photo archives looking for cute coeds and buff men, no exposed tattoos please, strolling across the quadrangle the one day it's not raining and there's nothing dug up. Plus the Asian guy in the wheelchair and make sure there's a lot of African American and Hispanic faces to show diversity. Plus some photos of professors who won the Nobel or have been on Letterman. Which they make into a slideshow (or BU's case, a video with garbled words). Then somebody says, "Hey, let's invite the alumni of our most famous teams, 1967 and 1970, to come back and be saluted on the ice." "We got any money for this?" "We've got enough to fly Ned up from Florida, but that's it, and let's see if the other alums want to come on their own." So they people we got were New Yorkers or Ithacans for the most part.

No big deal. Everybody was pretty happy. How happy?

IIRC, Andy Noel was introduced and nobody booed, that's how mellow the crowd was. Ticket line hassles and surly ushers under his command were forgotten for the evening. Plus he got us that nice wrestling building.

RichH · November 26, 2007, 08:00:56 PM

[quote billhoward]IIRC, Andy Noel was introduced and nobody booed[/quote]

Wanna bet?

KeithK · November 26, 2007, 08:01:20 PM

[quote billhoward]IIRC, Andy Noel was introduced and nobody booed, that's how mellow the crowd was. Ticket line hassles and surly ushers under his command were forgotten for the evening. Plus he got us that nice wrestling building.[/quote]
Seriously? Damn. Just think how great an "Andy must go!" chant would sound coming from 12,000 voices!

I kid, I Kid...