2007-2008 Schedule released

[KeithK]

[quote Beeeej]Even if the league office did consider such things, is it even possible to avoid it for all six sets of travel partners?  I don't have the mathematical wherewithal to answer this question, but someone here must (and it's still not October).[/quote]
Come on Beeeej, stop being reasonable.  The point of these threads (well, subthreads) is to belittle the league office or the AD or whoever is in charge.  We don't need any rational comments here!

[Jordan 04]

[quote Al DeFlorio]I wish they'd split up the road trips to Yale/Brown and Harvard/Dartmouth so they don't fall on consecutive weekends.  It would make more sense to have one during fall semester and the other during spring semester.[/quote]

I am missing what is so bad about this...

[Trotsky]

[quote Jordan 04]I am missing what is so bad about this...[/quote]It bites for people coming from Ithaca.  It's nice to have the two "east coast" swings separated.

[Jordan 04]

[quote Trotsky][quote Jordan 04]I am missing what is so bad about this...[/quote]It bites for people coming from Ithaca.  It's nice to have the two "east coast" swings separated.[/quote]

Ah, ok.

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Jordan 04][quote Al DeFlorio]I wish they'd split up the road trips to Yale/Brown and Harvard/Dartmouth so they don't fall on consecutive weekends.  It would make more sense to have one during fall semester and the other during spring semester.[/quote]

I am missing what is so bad about this...[/quote]
It also bites for people living in that area.  It would be nice to have the team playing locally spread more over the course of the year, not four times in a nine-day period.  It really bites if those nine days happen to fall when you're away on a two-week vacation planned in advance of the publishing of the schedule.

[billhoward]

[quote Al DeFlorio]I wish they'd split up the road trips to Yale/Brown and Harvard/Dartmouth so they don't fall on consecutive weekends.  It would make more sense to have one during fall semester and the other during spring semester.[/quote]

Good point, Al. Away sports events are a reason for alumni and parents from the region to gather. It's tougher when they're adjacent weekends, or just a couple weeks apart. Another example: If you're an alum from eastern Pennsylvania or New Jersey, you do without local Cornell football games for a year, then the next year you've got both Penn and Princeton, then you do without. The year when Princeton was building its new stadium and had to play all away games (made up for the following year) would have been a good time to get the at-Penn and at-Princeton games in alternatiing years. Didn't happen.

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote billhoward]If you're an alum from eastern Pennsylvania or New Jersey, you do without local Cornell football games for a year, then the next year you've got both Penn and Princeton, then you do without.[/quote]
We have it here with Brown and Harvard in the same year.  The other year we have Yale and Dartmouth, but those are longer trips from the Cape.

For awhile, the team always closed the season at Penn or Princeton, and opened at home against the other--eliminating the problem you're describing.

See you at Yale, Bill?  Pepe's afterwards?

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Al DeFlorio]For awhile, the team always closed the season at Penn or Princeton, and opened at home against the other--eliminating the problem you're describing.
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I remember it being the other way around.  My freshman year, the first Ivy game was at Penn, and the year before I got there, we'd closed the season with Penn at Schoelkopf (where the Quakers tore down the goalposts ::cuss:.  Then Junior year we closed the season at Franklin Field on Thanksgiving, and I think since then the last game of the season has always been against Penn.

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote jtwcornell91][quote Al DeFlorio]For awhile, the team always closed the season at Penn or Princeton, and opened at home against the other--eliminating the problem you're describing.
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I remember it being the other way around.  My freshman year, the first Ivy game was at Penn, and the year before I got there, we'd closed the season with Penn at Schoelkopf (where the Quakers tore down the goalposts ::cuss:.  Then Junior year we closed the season at Franklin Field on Thanksgiving, and I think since then the last game of the season has always been against Penn.[/quote]
Yes, but for awhile the schedule was done such that the last game of the year for Cornell and Dartmouth would be at either Penn or Princeton, for weather reasons.  So on alternate years we'd close at Penn or Princeton and Dartmouth would close at the other.  The problem with this was that it eliminated the traditional final game matchups (i.e., Cornell-Penn and Dartmouth-Princeton) for the four schools, so they reverted to the "old" way.

Of course, with global warming, late November weather in Hanover and Ithaca is no longer an issue...

[Edit:  Checking the archives, it looks like 1964 was the first year we closed the season at Princeton while playing Penn in Ithaca to open the Ivy season--after many years of always closing AT Penn.  From 1964 through 1975 we alternated closing games at Penn and Princeton.  In 1975 and 1976 we closed at Penn twice in a row, then at Princeton in 1977, and then--strangely--alternated between closing with Princeton on the road and Penn at home (which made no sense to me, given the traditional closing game AT Penn for decades during the glory years of Ivy football).  This went on through 1988 when the Ivy League went to the current Penn/at Penn rotation for our closing game.]

[billhoward]

[quote Al DeFlorio][quote billhoward]If you're an alum from eastern Pennsylvania or New Jersey, you do without local Cornell football games for a year, then the next year you've got both Penn and Princeton, then you do without.[/quote]
We have it here with Brown and Harvard in the same year.  The other year we have Yale and Dartmouth, but those are longer trips from the Cape.

For awhile, the team always closed the season at Penn or Princeton, and opened at home against the other--eliminating the problem you're describing.

See you at Yale, Bill?  Pepe's afterwards?[/quote]

Yale football (9/22), hockey? Whatever, whichever, both. Yes, we're on for Pepe's. [An outstandingly great pizza place in the Italian section of New Haven that Al introduced us to. Try the white pie with clams and bacon. Link: http://www.pepespizzeria.com/ (157 Wooster Street, New Haven, CT 203-865-5762)

This year the at-Princeton game is 10/27 and the at-Penn closer is three weeks later, 11/17. It was frigid there two years ago to end the season, but it's always nice when you blow out Penn in football.

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote billhoward]Yale football (9/22), hockey? Whatever, whichever, both. Yes, we're on for Pepe's. [An outstandingly great pizza place in the Italian section of New Haven that Al introduced us to. Try the white pie with clams and bacon. Link: http://www.pepespizzeria.com/ (157 Wooster Street, New Haven, CT 203-865-5762)
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September 22 for sure, and hockey November 9, as well.  Need to work on tickets for the latter.  The former will attract 60,000 empty seats.

[Jim Hyla]

[quote Al DeFlorio][quote billhoward]Yale football (9/22), hockey? Whatever, whichever, both. Yes, we're on for Pepe's. [An outstandingly great pizza place in the Italian section of New Haven that Al introduced us to. Try the white pie with clams and bacon. Link: http://www.pepespizzeria.com/ (157 Wooster Street, New Haven, CT 203-865-5762)
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September 22 for sure, and hockey November 9, as well.  Need to work on tickets for the latter.  The former will attract 60,000 empty seats.[/quote]I'm on for Nov 9. I'm at a conference in Boston that week and the trip to Providence and New Haven is certainly shorter from Boston than Syracuse.

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Jim Hyla][quote Al DeFlorio][quote billhoward]Yale football (9/22), hockey? Whatever, whichever, both. Yes, we're on for Pepe's. [An outstandingly great pizza place in the Italian section of New Haven that Al introduced us to. Try the white pie with clams and bacon. Link: http://www.pepespizzeria.com/ (157 Wooster Street, New Haven, CT 203-865-5762)
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September 22 for sure, and hockey November 9, as well.  Need to work on tickets for the latter.  The former will attract 60,000 empty seats.[/quote]I'm on for Nov 9. I'm at a conference in Boston that week and the trip to Providence and New Haven is certainly shorter from Boston than Syracuse.[/quote]
That's great!

[sah67]

Olshansky chimes in on the schedule at the bottom of this post

Also, in another entry, he mentions that the Knicks will be hosting the Bulls at MSG at 1PM on the day of the BU game, and goes on to suggest the possibility of less-than-optimal ice come game time...I hadn't thought about this.

[billhoward]

[quote sah67]Olshansky chimes in on the schedule at the bottom of this post

Also, in another entry, he mentions that the Knicks will be hosting the Bulls at MSG at 1PM on the day of the BU game, and goes on to suggest the possibility of less-than-optimal ice come game time...I hadn't thought about this.[/quote]

I've heard a description of even worse: playing the day after the circus leaves town and the ice wasn't taken up. Some of the urine seeps through the plywood underlayment, infuses the ice, and it takes more than one or two Zamboni passes until the worst smell is once again the players' pads and pants.