NCAA Quarterfinals: Cornell v. Albany (pre-game)

[redhair34]

I appreciate your great insight as always.

[quote Hillel Hoffmann]
Most goalies are measured by how well they stop the ball. Period. On most days, Queener isn't a grade-A stopper. In fact, if Cornell creates decent shots -- particularly from 10-20 yards -- they will score plenty. Queener's better at stopping shots on the crease, going stick to stick. But making saves isn't the Q's secret power. The fun starts when he gets the ball in his crosse. As soon as Queener makes a save or picks up a ground ball, he sprints down the field in a straight line like a Jack Russell terrier. And he's not just looking to dump and retreat. Queener likes to attack the goal, and he has seven points to show for it. But forget the points -- when he takes off, clears happen. Sure, he might give up a goal every other game because he takes insane risks on occasion, but in an age when many clears are unsuccessful due to time violations rather than checks, he is an efficient, fast clearing machine -- and he might be the perfect antidote to Cornell's hard ride. It's maddening! Just watch: Even the gentlest Cornell fans will pop an artery or two screaming "KILL HIM! KILL HIM!" on Saturday.

With Queener, it's all about the mojo. If Cornell scores early and often, he will sag. But if he makes a few big saves in the first quarter, jumping up and down and shaking his fists, look out.

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You've hit the nail on the head with Queener.  He's one of a kind.  I also recall him participating as an attackman during their EMO.  It will be interesting to see whether Queener foils Cornell's ride or Cornell's ride foils Queener.  Regardless, the best way to neutralize him is to have him fishing the ball out of the cage.

[Robb]

[quote redhair34] It will be interesting to see whether Queener foils Cornell's ride or Cornell's ride foils Queener.[/quote]

For us bandwagon lax fans, are you allowed to check the goalie when he's out of his crease?

[howiem98]

Any update on Max Seibald's injury?  Did he practice?  Anyone know?

[Jacob '06]

[quote Robb][quote redhair34] It will be interesting to see whether Queener foils Cornell's ride or Cornell's ride foils Queener.[/quote]

For us bandwagon lax fans, are you allowed to check the goalie when he's out of his crease?[/quote]

Yes, same rules apply to the goalie as any other player outside of the crease.

[redhair34]

[quote howiem98]Any update on Max Seibald's injury?  Did he practice?  Anyone know?[/quote]

This article says his injury has kept him out of practice.  
http://ithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070516/SPORTS/705160333

I'll be shocked if he doesn't play.

[Josh '99]

[quote Jacob '06][quote Robb][quote redhair34] It will be interesting to see whether Queener foils Cornell's ride or Cornell's ride foils Queener.[/quote]

For us bandwagon lax fans, are you allowed to check the goalie when he's out of his crease?[/quote]

Yes, same rules apply to the goalie as any other player outside of the crease.[/quote](Off topic)

Hockey should be the same way.

[Al DeFlorio]

Donna DiTota on Seibald in today's Post-Standard:

http://blog.syracuse.com/orangelacrosse/

[Scroll down a bit.]

[Hillel Hoffmann]

[quote Al DeFlorio]Donna DiTota on Seibald in today's Post-Standard:

http://blog.syracuse.com/orangelacrosse/

[Scroll down a bit.][/quote]

I don't like the sound of that at all. Makes me think that the goal of the smokescreening to date has been to create an artificial sense of optimism so Albany will be forced to prepare for Seibald (I had been assuming it was more likely to be the opposite).

[Dpperk29]

[quote Josh '99][quote Jacob '06][quote Robb][quote redhair34] It will be interesting to see whether Queener foils Cornell's ride or Cornell's ride foils Queener.[/quote]

For us bandwagon lax fans, are you allowed to check the goalie when he's out of his crease?[/quote]

Yes, same rules apply to the goalie as any other player outside of the crease.[/quote](Off topic)

Hockey should be the same way.[/quote]

no it shouldn't. You would see alot more injuries to goalies. Goalie equipment is designed to protect the goalie and stop the puck, not protect him from a check. Take a goalie helmst for example. The standard design cannot take a rear impact very well. also, chest rpotectors have little to no  padding in the back, another area that gets abused in a check.

Other than injury, I see part of the issue being goalies cannot manuever as sharply as players when they are in an upright skating position, making it much easier to be checked and harder to skate away.

checking goalies is just a bad idea in hockey.

[redhair34]

The second-round of the NCAA tournament is this weekend, and Inside Lacrosse's scouting reports will help you understand what to look for. We talked to many DI coaches to get a feel for what to watch for. Here are their anonymous scouting reports on this weekend's games:


 

Cornell-Albany

Can Albany beat Cornell and Matt McMonagle?

Cornell should be able to defend Albany's middies and not have to slide. They're a little unique on defense because they don't have to slide a bunch; a little like Princeton...That will be huge difference-maker in the game, the fact that they don't have to leave the crease.

Albany will try to pump the ball inside, which is going to lead to some turnovers...Anybody who dodges Cornell's longstick middie [Ethan] Vedder won't be able to run by their longpoles...The one guy on Albany who might be able to find some success dodging is Corey Small, who has developed a nice spilt dodge to his opposite hand...Jordan Levine is also dangerous, and is very very fast. Cornell will need to lock him up on the wing, because at any time he'll go to the rack, and if they allow him to dodge right-handed down the wing, he'll shoot and score...

Cornell will probably dominate on face-offs; [Albany's] Dan Barnes is intense and tough, but he's not going to win a lot of face-offs, as you saw last week against [Loyola's Dan] Kallaugher. [Cornell's] Tommy Schmicker could have the same kind of success, especially if Schmicker's move is working. Cornell's wing play is also better than Albany's off the face-offs; they have better longsticks coming off the wing...[Cornell's Matt] McMonagle will be able to make big saves, and that will also be a huge difference-maker...[Albany's Brett] Queener is very athletic, a very colorful player, he's loud and excitable, and that excites his team. He runs between the lines and creates transition opportunities, so Cornell needs to take him out of the game; get a guy in his face, and don't let him get involved in the clear. He takes chances and attackmen end up following him, and so that team winds up a man-down. The quieter he is the better. As far as shooting on him, he's not an unbelievable stopper; He's probably a bit better outside of the cage than inside...

Cornell's guys just shoot the lights out of the ball. Cornell's perimeter shooters, unlike most teams that are successful from 10 yards and in, they can shoot from 14 or 15 yards and in. John Glynn doesn't miss from 12 yards and in and John Espey is almost automatic...Cornell's transition also has the potential to really hurt Albany; you can't see them being able to stop Cornell's transition game. Vedder and [Matt] Moyer are better than most offense middies; they feed Mitchell with 20-25 yard passes, they set cross-screens...

Defending against middie dodging and attack dodging could be a problem for Albany. They're going to have to slide all the time and give up shots from 10 yards and in...Cornell has a ball-side op and a fade, and they like to explode a guy from X right into the crease; few teams do that....When you slide adjacent or form the crease, they're going to hurt you...[Cornell's Eric] Pittard is not lighting quick, but he's a great dodger. He has a couple different types of dodges that he likes, and he's great with both hands....Craig McDonald is the one guy that Albany has that is very athletic at D, but he may not be able to hang with Pittard...[Cornell's Henry] Bartlett is going to be successful against a short stick, and he will have a big game if they put a short stick on him...

Clearing could be an area of concern for Albany because of the pressure Cornell gives you at the mid line, and at the defensive restraining line...Albany's best players are up in the attack, but they've got to be able to get the ball up there...Besides Resetarits and Thomson, Small is a sniper up top, as you saw when he lit Loyola up last week.

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=165005

[DeltaOne81]

[quote Hillel Hoffmann][quote Al DeFlorio]Donna DiTota on Seibald in today's Post-Standard:

http://blog.syracuse.com/orangelacrosse/

[Scroll down a bit.][/quote]

I don't like the sound of that at all. Makes me think that the goal of the smokescreening to date has been to create an artificial sense of optimism so Albany will be forced to prepare for Seibald (I had been assuming it was more likely to be the opposite).[/quote]

I'm still not sure which way its going, all I'm pretty sure about is Tambroni knows a lot more than he's letting on. And is doing it just to throw Albany. I wish he's whisper to us though

Being off crutches and walking without a limp is a good thing. The fact that was on crutches to begin with is not. Neither is the fact he's walking gingerly. Written on Wednesday though, he still had ~72 hours from the time he spoke with him. We'll have to wait and see.

[Josh '99]

[quote Dpperk29][quote Josh '99][quote Jacob '06][quote Robb][quote redhair34] It will be interesting to see whether Queener foils Cornell's ride or Cornell's ride foils Queener.[/quote]

For us bandwagon lax fans, are you allowed to check the goalie when he's out of his crease?[/quote]

Yes, same rules apply to the goalie as any other player outside of the crease.[/quote](Off topic)

Hockey should be the same way.[/quote]

no it shouldn't. You would see alot more injuries to goalies. Goalie equipment is designed to protect the goalie and stop the puck, not protect him from a check. Take a goalie helmst for example. The standard design cannot take a rear impact very well. also, chest rpotectors have little to no  padding in the back, another area that gets abused in a check.

Other than injury, I see part of the issue being goalies cannot manuever as sharply as players when they are in an upright skating position, making it much easier to be checked and harder to skate away.

checking goalies is just a bad idea in hockey.[/quote]Then DON'T COME OUT OF THE CREASE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET HIT.

[Josh '99]

Is anyone else getting the impression that this Queener guy is the type we'd LOVE to heckle in a hockey game?

[Hillel Hoffmann]

[quote Josh '99]Is anyone else getting the impression that this Queener guy is the type we'd LOVE to heckle in a hockey game?[/quote]
Yup, but he is just the kind of guy who eats that up. It will have the opposite effect, I guarantee it. He's like Mike Mulligan's steam shovel: The more people who pay attention to him, the more pumped he gets.

[Chris '03]

[quote Hillel Hoffmann][quote Josh '99]Is anyone else getting the impression that this Queener guy is the type we'd LOVE to heckle in a hockey game?[/quote]
Yup, but he is just the kind of guy who eats that up. It will have the opposite effect, I guarantee it. He's like Mike Mulligan's steam shovel: The more people who pay attention to him, the more pumped he gets.[/quote]

Wow. A Mike Mulligan and His Steam Shovel reference. That's gotta be an eLynah first.