2007-08 fan wishlist

[Jacob '06]

[quote krose][quote Ben Rocky 04]The higher glass is reasonable, and the net at the end of the ice, but please, no more.[/quote]
I disagree: I don't want the netting in front of G.  I pay attention to the game.  If you don't, then you take a greater risk of being on the receiving end of a slapshot.  Your problem. :-D

Kyle[/quote]

In reality, many people who have been paying attention have gotten injured by pucks coming up behind the net. Pucks travel at some pretty high velocities on shots, and it can be hard to judge where they are actually doing. If you put your hands up to protect your face, you can end up with broken bones or bad bruises on your hands. On the sides its a different story as most pucks are traveling rather slowly and you could probably catch it without hurting yourself.

[ugarte]

[quote Ben Rocky 04][quote KeithK]Well, since this is a wish list I'd go for a third option.  How about having the state legislature pass changes to liability rules that would explicitly prevent someone from suing over injuries as a spectator at a sporting event.  It should be as the back of the ticket claims.  Sit in the stands where pucks can go flying and watch at your own risk.  That way we can have low glass and no netting at the same time! [/quote]

I don't think you'd find hardly anyone who would disagree with you. Its entirely logical that Cornell shouldn't be fault when you get hit with a puck while you voluntarily attend a sporting event. The higher glass is reasonable, and the net at the end of the ice, but please, no more.[/quote]
In fact, why have the glass at all! (In other words, at least one person disagrees.)

[Ben Rocky '04]

[quote ugarte][quote Ben Rocky 04]
I don't think you'd find hardly anyone[/quote]
In fact, why have the glass at all! (In other words, at least one person disagrees.)[/quote]

I said hardly anyone.  Also, without any glass wouldn't the game stop like three times as often because the puck left the rink?  Wouldn't it also mean the players could be easily checked into the crowd, possibly injuring themselves, the crowd, and damaging their equipment?

If you were being sarcastic, forgive me, and use italics next time.

[ugarte]

[quote Ben Rocky '04]
If you were being sarcastic, forgive me, and use italics next time.[/quote]
Yeah, I'm going to make sure that you understand me a top priority.

[Rosey]

[quote Jacob '06][quote krose][quote Ben Rocky 04]The higher glass is reasonable, and the net at the end of the ice, but please, no more.[/quote]
I disagree: I don't want the netting in front of G.  I pay attention to the game.  If you don't, then you take a greater risk of being on the receiving end of a slapshot.  Your problem. :-D[/quote]

In reality, many people who have been paying attention have gotten injured by pucks coming up behind the net.[/quote]
I understand that.  That's why I said "greater risk".  I'm willing to take the lesser risk that comes with paying attention.  I spent a year behind the net in G and I fucking hate it.

Kyle

[Josh '99]

If any of you think there's any chance of the net at the end of the rink coming down after that girl died in Columbus a few years ago, you're crazy.  It's not just about Cornell not wanting to get sued, it's about Cornell not wanting something like that happening in their building, and I don't blame them at all.

[KeithK]

[quote Jim Hyla][quote KeithK](Honestly, I'm not trying to hijack this thread into a political discussion. Let's not get into this argument!)
[/quote]Meaning you can say your piece and we can't respond? So you get the last, and only, word on this subject? I know that's not what you meant, but once you open a subject, you can't expect everyone to just sit back and say nothing.[/quote]
I was just apologizing in advance for hijacking the thread, since I know folks around here can't resist arguing about it (and some of the usual suspects have already posted :-)). Also saying that I won't respond with a substantive post defending my wish.

Of course, if y'all want to sit back and just take my word as gospel I'd be OK with that too. :-D.

[Rosey]

[quote Josh '99]If any of you think there's any chance of the net at the end of the rink coming down after that girl died in Columbus a few years ago, you're crazy.[/quote]
I also never said that I thought there was any chance.  (Don't they teach reading comprehension anymore?)  I am simply pining, because it's the off season and we have nothing more useful to do.

Kyle

[Josh '99]

[quote krose][quote Josh '99]If any of you think there's any chance of the net at the end of the rink coming down after that girl died in Columbus a few years ago, you're crazy.[/quote]
I also never said that I thought there was any chance.  (Don't they teach reading comprehension anymore?)  I am simply pining, because it's the off season and we have nothing more useful to do.[/quote]Sorry, you're right - I forgot that this was a wishlist and suggestions didn't have to be realistic.  ::coffee::

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

[quote ugarte]I want Columbia to start a D-I hockey team so that I can see a game in New York City every year.[/quote]

Well, since we're dreaming, I want Penn to start their team again, so I can see a game in Philly.

[Ben Rocky '04]

[quote Jeff Hopkins '82][quote ugarte]I want Columbia to start a D-I hockey team so that I can see a game in New York City every year.[/quote]

Well, since we're dreaming, I want Penn to start their team again, so I can see a game in Philly.[/quote]

If I remember correctly, Penn's campus master plan has them demolishing Class of '23 rink, so I think hockey is out of the picture, permanently. Personally, I'd like to see Lehigh, Bucknell or Lafayette start D1 teams, as they'd probably join ECAC (one Patriot team is already in our conference, but USMA and Holy Cross are in Atlantic...). If Navy went D1, they'd end up as Atlantic, but at least there'd be a D1 team closer to DC than Princeton.

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Josh '99]If any of you think there's any chance of the net at the end of the rink coming down after that girl died in Columbus a few years ago, you're crazy.  It's not just about Cornell not wanting to get sued, it's about Cornell not wanting something like that happening in their building, and I don't blame them at all.[/quote]

And you're a lawyer so you're automatically right. ::banana::

[David Harding]

[quote Josh '99]If any of you think there's any chance of the net at the end of the rink coming down after that girl died in Columbus a few years ago, you're crazy.  It's not just about Cornell not wanting to get sued, it's about Cornell not wanting something like that happening in their building, and I don't blame them at all.[/quote]It already has happened at Lynah.  One male student killed by a puck in the stands.  Substantial settlement.  Seems to me it was late 1970's.  

Responding to other posts...

Just be alert?  KcKee, Leneveu, Dryden, and the rest didn't stop every puck.  You won't do better.

But as someone pointed out, that doesn't mean we can't dream about a perfect world where we could put ourselves in as much danger as we chose and never get hurt.  I go back far enough that I remember attending games as a kid before there was any glass at all on the sides (and only chain link fence at the ends that sometimes came loose).  And, yes, the players sometimes landed in our laps, or at least it felt that way.

[Rita]

[quote RichH]
1) Fix/replace All-Access.  
Most obvious one.  Enough has been written here about it.  We all know it.  After the experience of the Duke lax webcast with ACC Select...we now know a quality product & model is not only possible, but is in use now.  Most of us would gladly pay for a reliable service.  I'd prefer it to be internal to the university, but if a league-wide service like ACC Select exists, why not try an ECAC or Ivy League branded subscription service?  CSTV is too bloated and difficult in its current form.[/quote]

Has anyone heard anymore about this? I thought I had heard that the contract with All-Access was being terminated at the end of the academic year. Granted quality did get better at the end, but the problems were too numerous to overcome that. Would it be worth writing a few nicely-worded letters to Athletics reminding them of the problems with football, hockey and lacrosse?

[quote RichH]
2) Go back to old starting times.
There's a fairly large number of people with jobs who attend games.  The start times for games were 7:30 on Fridays, 7:00 on Saturdays.  Maybe that's too difficult to remember.  With the universal 7:00 start times, I've found myself hitting snags in sneaking out of the office, traffic delays, etc. that I get there late.  For the Dartmouth game in Hanover, the start time was pushed back to 7:30 due to an afternoon women's game.  It may have only been 30 minutes, but I found that extra time to be a luxury.  Gives people time to fight traffic, get into town, find parking, and/or maybe have a bite to eat before heading to to the arena.  Games will still end by 9:45. [/quote]

I agree and I'm not driving to any of the games! That extra half hour makes a big difference. When I was at Cornell, game times were at 7:30 and no matter how hard I tried, I rarely managed to get off campus before 6. The times I did, I got caught in the 15-20 minutes of traffic (sitting at campus stop signs/crosswalks) that happens when all the staff leaves at 5 pm (it is the same thing here at Purdue). I would definitely like that 30 minutes back because I still cannot manage to leave work much before 6 pm (something about that 60-90 minutes after people are gone; it is quiet and good for concentrating).

The townies pay quite a bit for their tickets, and I assume a good number of them have families/kids/pets that need to be fetched and fed. I'm sure they would also appreciate an extra 30 minutes to do that.

[quote RichH]6) Student/usher Détente
Get to know your usher.  Most of them aren't power-hungry nazis, honest.  They're just given marching orders.  If you took the time to talk to them at least so they'd know your face and that you aren't some little snot-nosed punk, and maybe give a little leeway.  It goes the opposite way.  Ushers: not all students are "up to no-good." [/quote]

Here, here. The ushers working in the mid to late 90's in Section D were very nice. A smile, a "Hello" and a few kind words go a long way. It helped that they knew us when we needed to smuggle visiting friends into our row who didn't have "D" tickets.

[quote RichH]7) Fire Andy.
Seriously.  Rainbows will appear.  Roses will bloom.  Give it a try.[/quote]

Gee, maybe that is why there are so many rainbows in Hawaii, no Andy! But I always thought the roses were due to the April Showers.:-}

[Liz '05]

[quote Rita][quote RichH]7) Fire Andy.
Seriously.  Rainbows will appear.  Roses will bloom.  Give it a try.[/quote]

Gee, maybe that is why there are so many rainbows in Hawaii, no Andy! But I always thought the roses were due to the April Showers.:-}[/quote]

But April in Ithaca always has two weeks of sun for Cornell Days...