Cornell Goaltenders

Started by redheadfanatic, February 23, 2007, 09:41:13 PM

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cth95

[quote WillCMJr]Ari, I agree with a lot of things you say, but Davenport let in 5 goals on only 21 shots.  It doesn't matter if those 16 saves were all highlight-reel material and the 5 goals were breakaways and odd-man rushes, there's no good in 5 goals on 21 shots.[/quote]

Like I said to my friend at the end of the game, anyone looking at the stats is going to think Davenport sucked and cost us the game.  Sure he could have had a spectacular night and kept us in it, but when we continually give up  odd-man rushes, turn the puck over multiple times in the slot, and leave guys wide open to one-time rebounds, not many goalies are going to look very good.

When you do see a goalie stop everything when his team plays like that in front of him, it should make you appreciate it that much more.

cth95

[quote Al DeFlorio][quote cth95]Duffis was very good.[/quote]
Duffus was very good.[/quote]

Thanks.  I thought that didn't look right.  Should have gone back and checked.

Al DeFlorio

[quote cth95][quote Al DeFlorio][quote cth95]Duffis was very good.[/quote]
Duffus was very good.[/quote]

Thanks.  I thought that didn't look right.  Should have gone back and checked.[/quote]
What makes it tough is that his name is Parris Duffus.
Al DeFlorio '65

WillCMJr

Part of the goalie's job is to NOT give up the rebound.  If you block all of your shots with your leg pads and center of your chest, like Davenport, you're going to give up rebounds.  There are no excuses for 5 goals on 21 shots, ever.

With that said, 1 goal is good enough only in a shutout.  So he didn't cost Cornell the game.  But 16/21 is not 'good' by any definition.

Josh '99

I didn't see Friday's game so I can't speak to that, but the loss on Saturday definitely wasn't Scrivens' fault.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

DeltaOne81

[quote WillCMJr]Ari, I agree with a lot of things you say, but Davenport let in 5 goals on only 21 shots.  It doesn't matter if those 16 saves were all highlight-reel material and the 5 goals were breakaways and odd-man rushes, there's no good in 5 goals on 21 shots.[/quote]

Actually, I think you just named the one time. When the goalie was hung out to dry, don't you think he gets a pass on those shots, so long as he was playing well otherwise? (assuming he also made a few nice stops on other breakaways or odd-man rushes, and that's not a distinct weakness)

mttgrmm

At Lynah East my friend and I were standing behind Troy Davenport's brother.  We talked a bit between periods, and I asked him if he or his brother had any idea what Schafer was planning for the playoffs.  He said that they don't have any idea, and that "troy doesn't ever know who's starting the next game, let alone in a few weeks."  I got the feeling that Ben and Troy are kept in the dark until like the afternoon of the game or something, more like a "game time decision."

and yes, I agree with Josh '99, I don't think the Harvard loss was Scrivens's  fault at all.

Omie

I agree 100% except that your #s are a little bit off. According to collegehockeystats.net, Davenport was even worse; he made 14 saves in 19 shots.

Some people mentioned that one of teh weaknesses in Scrivens game was that he gave up too many rebounds, however he was better than Davenport in that aspect during this weekend's games.

min

[quote Al DeFlorio][quote cth95][quote Al DeFlorio][quote cth95]Duffis was very good.[/quote]
Duffus was very good.[/quote]

Thanks.  I thought that didn't look right.  Should have gone back and checked.[/quote]
What makes it tough is that his name is Parris Duffus.[/quote]

So how do you correctly pronounce his name?
Min-Wei Lin

KeithK

[quote min][quote Al DeFlorio][quote cth95][quote Al DeFlorio][quote cth95]Duffis was very good.[/quote]
Duffus was very good.[/quote]

Thanks.  I thought that didn't look right.  Should have gone back and checked.[/quote]
What makes it tough is that his name is Parris Duffus.[/quote]

So how d you correctly pronounce his name?[/quote]I believe it's pronounced like it's spelled: D&f-us.  The u is short.

RichH

[quote KeithK][quote min][quote Al DeFlorio][quote cth95][quote Al DeFlorio][quote cth95]Duffis was very good.[/quote]
Duffus was very good.[/quote]

Thanks.  I thought that didn't look right.  Should have gone back and checked.[/quote]
What makes it tough is that his name is Parris Duffus.[/quote]

So how d you correctly pronounce his name?[/quote]I believe it's pronounced like it's spelled: D&f-us.  The u is short.[/quote]

First name: Paris (like the city)
Last name: Duff-us.  (first syllable like the Simpsons fictional beer brand)

Lynah got used to doing this cheer:
[points at Parris]"DUFFUS!!"
[points at opposing sieve]: "DOOFUS!!"

So much that people kept trying to apply similar cheers to the new guys.  "Elliott....Idiot" came from these efforts.

Beeeej

[quote RichH]First name: Paris (like the city)
Last name: Duff-us.  (first syllable like the Simpsons fictional beer brand)

Lynah got used to doing this cheer:
[points at Parris]"DUFFUS!!"
[points at opposing sieve]: "DOOFUS!!"

So much that people kept trying to apply similar cheers to the new guys.  "Elliott....Idiot" came from these efforts.[/quote]

Shockingly, Coach Schafer didn't accede to our thoroughly reasonable request that he only recruit goalies with names conducive to such mocking.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

French Rage

[quote Beeeej][quote RichH]First name: Paris (like the city)
Last name: Duff-us.  (first syllable like the Simpsons fictional beer brand)

Lynah got used to doing this cheer:
[points at Parris]"DUFFUS!!"
[points at opposing sieve]: "DOOFUS!!"

So much that people kept trying to apply similar cheers to the new guys.  "Elliott....Idiot" came from these efforts.[/quote]

Shockingly, Coach Schafer didn't accede to our thoroughly reasonable request that he only recruit goalies with names conducive to such mocking.[/quote]

Well, "Underhill"/"Over the hill" worked, but nothing really went with LeNeveu
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

CowbellGuy

I wouldn't really say that "worked."
"[Hugh] Jessiman turned out to be a huge specimen of something alright." --Puck Daddy

WillCMJr

The defense may have allowed some difficult situations, but they still only gave up 21 shots.  Many times those rebounds are the goalie's fault.  When you know you have an odd man rush coming, you know you either need to hold on to the puck or deflect it laterally.  If your deflecting it back out for a rebound shot, that's all on you.  We could ask Coach Shafer's opinion, but he started Scrivens the next night, that says a lot after several good games.  Coach is experienced, if he thought that was the defense's fault, Davenport would have been between the pipes again the next night.