dressing 3 goalies

Started by Ronald '09, December 02, 2006, 12:27:11 AM

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Ronald '09

I've been struggling with why we have Dan DiLeo dressing for games for some time, and over the past couple of weeks, it has really started to bother me.  To say nothing of how it actually impacts the game it looks stupid.  But also, it prevents us from dressing one more skater.  That hurt us in the loss to Wayne State, and I certainly would not have minded another skater dressed tonight.

Anyone have any explanation for why we dress three goalies?  I'll be honest that I haven't read every post in every game thread and postgame thread so this could have been addressed.

But I cannot see any explanation that would satisfy me.

redhair34

[quote Ronald '09]But also, it prevents us from dressing one more skater.  [/quote]

No, it doesn't.

reilly83

Dressing three goalies does not prevent a team from having an extra player.  A team consists of 18 players PLUS not less than two or more than three goalies. (21 players plus not more than three goalies in exhibition games.)

Ronald '09

Okay, I didn't know that.  But that begs a bigger question, why wouldn't every team dress three goalies?

Jacob 03

What they said is illuminated in the  rulebook (PDF, Rule 2: Page HR-23).  

As for your perception that it "looks stupid," I'm pretty sure that's far down the list of reasons Cornell lost to Wayne State.  A quick elynah search does reveal that this was never explained in any game thread, so no worries there.  Both the rulebook and the number of players allowed to dress have been mentioned repeatedly, though.

Will

[quote Ronald '09]Okay, I didn't know that.  But that begs a bigger question, why wouldn't every team dress three goalies?[/quote]

Sometimes it's not deemed worth it to bring a third goalie on the road.  Sometimes the team's third goalie is injured or otherwise unavailable.
Is next year here yet?

RichH

[Q]Rule 2 - Teams

Players in Uniform
SECTION 3. a. At the beginning of each game, the coach of each team
shall list the players and goalkeepers who shall be eligible to play in the
game. A maximum of 18 players, plus not more than three nor less than
two goalkeepers, shall be permitted; and a captain shall be designated.
In exhibition games, 21 skaters and as many as three goalkeepers are
allowed.[/Q]

Edit: sorry to those who already pointed this out...I didn't read far enough before replying.

Jacob 03

[quote Will][quote Ronald '09]Okay, I didn't know that.  But that begs a bigger question, why wouldn't every team dress three goalies?[/quote]

Sometimes it's not deemed worth it to bring a third goalie on the road.  Sometimes the team's third goalie is injured or otherwise unavailable.[/quote]
Like the team's third goalie being ineligible due to recent transfer-status?  That's about as likely as one of the team's goalies bolting over winter break.

ACM

[quote Will][quote Ronald '09]Okay, I didn't know that.  But that begs a bigger question, why wouldn't every team dress three goalies?[/quote]

Sometimes it's not deemed worth it to bring a third goalie on the road.  Sometimes the team's third goalie is injured or otherwise unavailable.[/quote]

And sometimes there isn't a third goalie. Like last season. Or the season before, after Davenport left.

las224

In reply to http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,104258,104282#msg-104282

[quote ACM]And sometimes there isn't a third goalie. Like last season. Or the season before, after Davenport left.[/quote]

Last season we had McKee, Chabot, Dileo. That's three, and yet I feel like Dileo rarely dressed. I realize it wasn't as necessary because Dave was great, but if it's allowed and doesn't affect the number of regular players you can dress, why not dress him just in case?

Will

[quote las224]In reply to http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,104258,104282#msg-104282

[quote ACM]And sometimes there isn't a third goalie. Like last season. Or the season before, after Davenport left.[/quote]

Last season we had McKee, Chabot, Dileo. That's three, and yet I feel like Dileo rarely dressed. I realize it wasn't as necessary because Dave was great, but if it's allowed and doesn't affect the number of regular players you can dress, why not dress him just in case?[/quote]

As I recall, DiLeo dressed for all of one game last season (and obviously got no playing time), when Chabot was ill.  I think DiLeo was injured for at least part of the season.  (Either that or Scafer didn't trust him in net to the point where he didn't dress him if he didn't have to.)
Is next year here yet?

KeithK

If DiLeo is working hard in practice why not allow him to dress for home games?  He may well never see the ice for Cornell in a real game but at least he'll be able to experience putting on the sweater and skating out in front of the Lynah fans.

billhoward

For away games, it's probably a cost issue and the lost day of class against the very slim chance he'd get in the game. For home games, maybe it's the coach's way of saying he's been doing a fair job in practice, so why not give him the benefit of being in uniform for the game.  

Also: Does anyone recall a game when three Cornell goalies played except maybe to give a senior some ice time in March?

I don't know if Cornell takes an extra (19th) skater along in case of someone getting hurt the first night, or suspended, or playing so poorly he shouldn't suit up Saturday.

Al DeFlorio

[quote billhoward]I don't know if Cornell takes an extra (19th) skater along in case of someone getting hurt the first night, or suspended, or playing so poorly he shouldn't suit up Saturday.[/quote]
They do.  I'd guess two or three.  

McLeod was standing in the lobby at Quinnipiac giving away tickets (which would have gone to you, Bill, if you hadn't been so quick to buy three!) and I think there were two others there (Milo must have been one as he had played at Princeton).
Al DeFlorio '65

Jacob '06

Dileo was in fact hurt for the majority of last season, and thats why he didn't dress regularly.