Florida hockey classic (Estero) FAQ

[Beeeej]

How is it a problem for superstition if you play "Cornell Victorious" only after you win?!

[RichH]

[quote Beeeej]How is it a problem for superstition if you play "Cornell Victorious" only after you win?![/quote]

Well, I assume that the players have to learn it and practice singing it before any games are played.  Maybe all that repetition before the season creates a vortex of a "super-jinx" that lasts for several months.  Now we know why the football title hasn't visited Ithaca since 1990.  

Regardless, you can count on a handful of fuddy-duddies like myself to continue to sing/whistle "Cornell Victorious."

[las224]

I am thinking (very last minute) about going, especially after having such a phenomenal time last year. I found some great deals on airfare, but I'd be staying with a friend in Sarasota, which is I believe about an hour from Estero. I'm 21, so I read the instructions above about how to maybe find deals on rentals, but if not, is anyone going from Sarasota/Bradenton area to the games and could give my friend and I a ride?

[billhoward]

You should know this better than over-25 drivers, but lots of areas do have rentals for drivers under 25. You just have to look around. At LAX a couple weeks ago, there were three places side by side (not Hertz or Avis, but locals) with window signs "Under 25 OK" -- but it didn't say at what price. Good luck.

[ebilmes]

How are the first round matchups decided each year? I know they're figured out far in advance, but is this just left to the discretion of the tournament director? It would seem logical that UNH and Maine not play each other in the first round, but is the rest decided by coin toss?

[Josh '99]

[quote Beeeej]How is it a problem for superstition if you play "Cornell Victorious" only after you win?![/quote]The superstition Banshee is talking about relates to saying the name of the song, not to playing/singing it.  (If I'm not mistaken, anyway.)

[Beeeej]

[quote Josh '99][quote Beeeej]How is it a problem for superstition if you play "Cornell Victorious" only after you win?![/quote]The superstition Banshee is talking about relates to saying the name of the song, not to playing/singing it.  (If I'm not mistaken, anyway.)[/quote]

Oh, okay.  I must have been drinking too much the day Flip taught that.

[billhoward]

The two perpetual host schools seem to alternate playing the apparently weaker team, such as Western Michigan this year for Maine, Northeastern last year for Cornell (instead of then teddy bear-less Minnesota-Duluth); or Notre Dame (instead of Ohio State) for Cornell in 2003. The two times Cornell won, 2005 and 2003, it got the lower-rated opponent in the opening game.

[ebilmes]

[quote billhoward]The two perpetual host schools seem to alternate playing the apparently weaker team, such as Western Michigan this year for Maine, Northeastern last year for Cornell (instead of then teddy bear-less Minnesota-Duluth); or Notre Dame (instead of Ohio State) for Cornell in 2003. The two times Cornell won, 2005 and 2003, it got the lower-rated opponent in the opening game.[/quote]

Thanks; the explanation seems to make sense. However, I think we played Notre Dame and won in '04, not '03.

[nyc94]

[quote ebilmes][quote billhoward]The two perpetual host schools seem to alternate playing the apparently weaker team, such as Western Michigan this year for Maine, Northeastern last year for Cornell (instead of then teddy bear-less Minnesota-Duluth); or Notre Dame (instead of Ohio State) for Cornell in 2003. The two times Cornell won, 2005 and 2003, it got the lower-rated opponent in the opening game.[/quote]

Thanks; the explanation seems to make sense. However, I think we played Notre Dame and won in '04, not '03.[/quote]

No, it was December 2003.  
http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php?season=20032004&gender=m&team=cor

[Beeeej]

[quote nyc94][quote ebilmes][quote billhoward]The two perpetual host schools seem to alternate playing the apparently weaker team, such as Western Michigan this year for Maine, Northeastern last year for Cornell (instead of then teddy bear-less Minnesota-Duluth); or Notre Dame (instead of Ohio State) for Cornell in 2003. The two times Cornell won, 2005 and 2003, it got the lower-rated opponent in the opening game.[/quote]

Thanks; the explanation seems to make sense. However, I think we played Notre Dame and won in '04, not '03.[/quote]

No, it was December 2003.  
http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php?season=20032004&gender=m&team=cor[/quote]

ebilmes may be using the traditional method of referring to the season in which it took place by the calendar year in which the season ended, hence the confusion.  With tourneys, though, we tend to refer to them by their calendar years - see the eLF sidebar indicating 2003 and 2005 titles.

[Chris '03]

[quote Josh '99][quote Beeeej]How is it a problem for superstition if you play "Cornell Victorious" only after you win?![/quote]The superstition Banshee is talking about relates to saying the name of the song, not to playing/singing it.  (If I'm not mistaken, anyway.)[/quote]

It's not as if the whole "Call it number 3" bit helped win any football games. It just confused people. "Wait we play number 3 when they win? Isn't that just a twenty second cheer? Do they mean 3 long or 3 short?"

I think Cornell Victorious (sorry, number 3... there I go again jinxing the team) should still be played in some fashion, be it the ironic anthem of losing or something else. Of course the lax team is without a victory song... speaking of which, is "Celebration" still the official (crappy) victory song of CU Hoops?

[ebilmes]

[quote Beeeej][quote nyc94][quote ebilmes][quote billhoward]The two perpetual host schools seem to alternate playing the apparently weaker team, such as Western Michigan this year for Maine, Northeastern last year for Cornell (instead of then teddy bear-less Minnesota-Duluth); or Notre Dame (instead of Ohio State) for Cornell in 2003. The two times Cornell won, 2005 and 2003, it got the lower-rated opponent in the opening game.[/quote]

Thanks; the explanation seems to make sense. However, I think we played Notre Dame and won in '04, not '03.[/quote]

No, it was December 2003.  
http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php?season=20032004&gender=m&team=cor[/quote]

ebilmes may be using the traditional method of referring to the season in which it took place by the calendar year in which the season ended, hence the confusion.  With tourneys, though, we tend to refer to them by their calendar years - see the eLF sidebar indicating 2003 and 2005 titles.[/quote]

Yeah, I guess we were both referring to the same tournament; I do think of the seasons in terms of the years in which they end. (i.e. "The 2004 season never happened, with the exception of the Florida tournament.") Bill is correct.

[Josh '99]

[quote Chris '03][quote Josh '99][quote Beeeej]How is it a problem for superstition if you play "Cornell Victorious" only after you win?![/quote]The superstition Banshee is talking about relates to saying the name of the song, not to playing/singing it.  (If I'm not mistaken, anyway.)[/quote]It's not as if the whole "Call it number 3" bit helped win any football games. It just confused people. "Wait we play number 3 when they win? Isn't that just a twenty second cheer? Do they mean 3 long or 3 short?"

I think Cornell Victorious (sorry, number 3... there I go again jinxing the team) should still be played in some fashion, be it the ironic anthem of losing or something else. Of course the lax team is without a victory song... speaking of which, is "Celebration" still the official (crappy) victory song of CU Hoops?[/quote]I'm not saying I *agree* with it, I'm just saying I think that's what the superstition is.  :-P

[Chris '03]

Because I know people around here love to stuff the ballot box for random online polls, the Everblades website is polling on who will win the tournament. With 144 votes cast, Maine leads followed by western, cornell, and new hampshire.

About halfway down on the right: http://www.floridaeverblades.com/