Hocky Tickets 2006/7

[French Rage]

[quote Dpperk29]
can I ask a question?

what makes one fan more deserving than another? and does athletics(or the university  as a whole) care if these "most deserving fans" get tickets over a bunch of "non-deserving fans?"

Think about it... Tickets are going to sell out, so why would Cornell University care who gets tickets and who doesn't? all they care about is selling out the arena, which they will most likely do every year for along time. Even if by some miracle the student sections didn't sell out, there are more than enough townies willing to pay significantly more for tickets than students that would fill in the holes.

Cornell doesn't care!

[/quote]

No, in the end they dont, because they know they can sit back and do nothing and it will still sell out.  If this were their precious wrestling team, they'd put more into it.

[French Rage]

[quote pat][quote canuck89].I still say an unannounced quiz on cornell hockey would reward the best fans with better numbers, and it is SAFE.[/quote]

MULTIPLE CHOICE
1. When Cornell is on the power play, I should:
  a. Get up; now's the time to take a leak without missing anything.
  b. Cheer loudly and watch the play develop in the attacking zone.
  c. Yell "SHOOT" every time a Cornell player comes near the puck.

2. RPI forward Tyler Eaves makes a hand pass in his own defensive zone. I should:
  a. Answer my cell phone.
  b. Cheer loudly and watch the play develop through the neutral zone.
  c. Shriek "HAND PASS" at the top of my lungs.

3. Harvard defense Brian McCafferty is penalized for holding. As he's going to the box, I should yell:
  a. A pox upon your house, you gorbellied moldwarp!
  b. Ahhhhhh, see ya!
  c. Ahhhhhh, see ya; YOU LOSE.

ESSAY
Clap a steady beat for 4 bars and repeat without speeding up.

[/quote]

Aren't all answers for #3 wrong?

[Jordan 04]

[quote French Rage][quote pat][quote canuck89].I still say an unannounced quiz on cornell hockey would reward the best fans with better numbers, and it is SAFE.[/quote]

MULTIPLE CHOICE
1. When Cornell is on the power play, I should:
  a. Get up; now's the time to take a leak without missing anything.
  b. Cheer loudly and watch the play develop in the attacking zone.
  c. Yell "SHOOT" every time a Cornell player comes near the puck.

2. RPI forward Tyler Eaves makes a hand pass in his own defensive zone. I should:
  a. Answer my cell phone.
  b. Cheer loudly and watch the play develop through the neutral zone.
  c. Shriek "HAND PASS" at the top of my lungs.

3. Harvard defense Brian McCafferty is penalized for holding. As he's going to the box, I should yell:
  a. A pox upon your house, you gorbellied moldwarp!
  b. Ahhhhhh, see ya!
  c. Ahhhhhh, see ya; YOU LOSE.

ESSAY
Clap a steady beat for 4 bars and repeat without speeding up.

[/quote]

Aren't all answers for #3 wrong?[/quote]

Yes.  The answer is clearly "Ahhhhhh, see ya!  You GOOTS!"

[RichH]

[quote French Rage][quote pat][quote canuck89].I still say an unannounced quiz on cornell hockey would reward the best fans with better numbers, and it is SAFE.[/quote]

MULTIPLE CHOICE
1. When Cornell is on the power play, I should:
  a. Get up; now's the time to take a leak without missing anything.
  b. Cheer loudly and watch the play develop in the attacking zone.
  c. Yell "SHOOT" every time a Cornell player comes near the puck.

2. RPI forward Tyler Eaves makes a hand pass in his own defensive zone. I should:
  a. Answer my cell phone.
  b. Cheer loudly and watch the play develop through the neutral zone.
  c. Shriek "HAND PASS" at the top of my lungs.

3. Harvard defense Brian McCafferty is penalized for holding. As he's going to the box, I should yell:
  a. A pox upon your house, you gorbellied moldwarp!
  b. Ahhhhhh, see ya!
  c. Ahhhhhh, see ya; YOU LOSE.

ESSAY
Clap a steady beat for 4 bars and repeat without speeding up.

[/quote]

Aren't all answers for #3 wrong?[/quote]

No.  (b) is correct.

[Jacob '06]

[quote Jordan 04][quote French Rage][quote pat][quote canuck89].I still say an unannounced quiz on cornell hockey would reward the best fans with better numbers, and it is SAFE.[/quote]

MULTIPLE CHOICE
1. When Cornell is on the power play, I should:
  a. Get up; now's the time to take a leak without missing anything.
  b. Cheer loudly and watch the play develop in the attacking zone.
  c. Yell "SHOOT" every time a Cornell player comes near the puck.

2. RPI forward Tyler Eaves makes a hand pass in his own defensive zone. I should:
  a. Answer my cell phone.
  b. Cheer loudly and watch the play develop through the neutral zone.
  c. Shriek "HAND PASS" at the top of my lungs.

3. Harvard defense Brian McCafferty is penalized for holding. As he's going to the box, I should yell:
  a. A pox upon your house, you gorbellied moldwarp!
  b. Ahhhhhh, see ya!
  c. Ahhhhhh, see ya; YOU LOSE.

ESSAY
Clap a steady beat for 4 bars and repeat without speeding up.

[/quote]

Aren't all answers for #3 wrong?[/quote]

Yes.  The answer is clearly "Ahhhhhh, see ya!  You GOOTS!"[/quote]

GOOSE!!! or LOON!!!!! its all about the birds.

[DL]

So how about a scavenger hunt with a point system?  Big Bonus Points for each year you'd gotten season tickets prior.  Maybe set aside section G tickets for weekly challenges, just to keep things rolling through the season.

[JasonN95]

[quote Dpperk29]
and does athletics(or the university  as a whole) care if these "most deserving fans" get tickets over a bunch of "non-deserving fans?"
[/quote]
I think Athletics does care; they tried different formulations over the past several years that, although in execution may have failed, at least seemed motivated with the intent of rewarding the most fanatical. I think they finally have run out of the strength to try to solve a problem that, frankly, the students bear much of the blame for. Collectively, there isn't enough honor/civility among the would-be student ticket buyers to use anything short of an elaborate and heavily policed process, and Athletics can't or wont go that far.  Too many students are willing to try to "beat the system" rather than do what is fair; and I think that mentality probably only got worse as Athletics tried through more challenges and hurdles into the process.  My freshman year was the year that the "student run" line broke down. A bunch of late arrivers disregarded the clearly established line and did the wrong thing; others saw this and followed suit. We can vent at Athletics, but we should also remember that much of the blame falls on students as well.

[Tom Lento]

[quote JasonN95]I think Athletics does care; they tried different formulations over the past several years that, although in execution may have failed, at least seemed motivated with the intent of rewarding the most fanatical. I think they finally have run out of the strength to try to solve a problem that, frankly, the students bear much of the blame for.[/quote]

While I agree that some of the problems are a result of student behavior, I don't think Cornell Athletics was particularly interested in rewarding the most fanatical.  Every permutation of the system involved increasing interest in the hockey line as an event - you'll camp out for 2 nights, indoors, and the hockey team will come and do a skills competition.  And then you'll be allowed to go home at night, because they won't check line numbers again until 10 AM.

There are simple ways to manage the line. The simpler the system, the more likely it is to be effective, right up to the point where it's an open free-for-all, at which point it will break down.  I think last year's system had the most unnecessary complexities of any ticket distribution system I've ever seen, and we saw how that turned out.  If they set it up so that line numbers were distributed as soon as ~150 people got in line, and had tickets go on sale on Sunday at noon, and announced the time and place well in advance, and had enough staff on hand to handle the students who show up early, there wouldn't be any of this trouble, and no more than 50-100 people would miss any class because, let's face it, only a few people will bother sleeping on concrete (or vinyl tile, or whatever hard surface the Alberding floor is made of) for 2 nights for a hockey ticket.

[canuck89]

very much amused...  :-D

[Trotsky]

Thing is, if the priorities were:

1. Sell out the barn.
2. Weight in favor of upperclassmen.
3. Favor the true fans.

then they already had a working system in place... in 1981 (and probably much earlier).