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[billhoward]

I check off Big Red Pep band on my Cornell Fund card and make it for $500, Cornell is going to deduct $500 from whatever it was planning to give the pep band otherwise. Call me a cynic.

The only way the pep band would see extra money is if Cornell had plans to lay $10,000 on the pep band in the next year and concerned alumni designate $11,000, then Cornell is sort of stuck forking over eleven large.

[Tub(a)]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 I check off Big Red Pep band on my Cornell Fund card and make it for $500, Cornell is going to deduct $500 from whatever it was planning to give the pep band otherwise. Call me a cynic.

The only way the pep band would see extra money is if Cornell had plans to lay $10,000 on the pep band in the next year and concerned alumni designate $11,000, then Cornell is sort of stuck forking over eleven large. [/q]

I would like to clear up a couple issues:

1. We never have been able to go to all the roadtrips.  We don't have enough money to do so. Occasionally a view people may bring horns, but they hardly constitute a Pep Band and sometimes are not/were not members of the Pep Band.

2. "Cornell" does not give us any money (that includes Athletics). We get approximately half of our funds from the SAFC. The rest come from gifts and other income (CDs and such). The SAFC follows a formula in allocating funds, and the Pep Band's current account status does not have significant play in those formulas.

3. The Pep Band is not the Marching Band, although the groups share many members. The only sporting event the Marching Band goes to is Football. If you see a band at any other sporting event, it is the Pep Band.

If you have any further questions/concerns please email me.

Grant '05
2004 Pep Band Manager

[billhoward]

Sounds as if the Pep Band is doing a lot with a little money. And whatever musicans showed up last spring at the Cornell at Princeton lacrosse game, and there were a lot of them, they were much appreciated, and a lot louder than the Princeton Tiger No Show No March No Pep Band.

Not to quibble when you say no money comes from Cornell, only from SAFC (Student Assembly Finance Commission), but doesn't SAFC money come from Cornell or from money Cornell tells students to pay as activities fees?

[Tub(a)]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 Sounds as if the Pep Band is doing a lot with a little money. And whatever musicans showed up last spring at the Cornell at Princeton lacrosse game, and there were a lot of them, they were much appreciated, and a lot louder than the Princeton Tiger No Show No March No Pep Band.

Not to quibble when you say no money comes from Cornell, only from SAFC (Student Assembly Finance Commission), but doesn't SAFC money come from Cornell or from money Cornell tells students to pay as activities fees? [/q]

It comes from the Student Activity Fee, but is allocated by students. They don't take gifts into account when allocating funds (unless there is an endowment or large amount of money in the account, which the Pep Band doesn't have) so your donation (or any others) does not affect the amount that the Pep Band gets from the SAFC unless the donation is large enough to start an endowment or greatly increase our account balance.

[Scersk '97]

[Q]Tub(a) Wrote:

3. The Pep Band is not the Marching Band, although the groups share many members. The only sporting event the Marching Band goes to is Football. If you see a band at any other sporting event, it is the Pep Band.

[/q]

Yeah, and Pep Band's much more fun.  And it's the only group for which a certain arrangement of a certain Steve Miller Band song was intended.  And five bones and a french horn (or was it a marching baritone?) can sound good or bad, depending on how incompetent the arrangement of Alma is.

To quibble, don't we receive money from athletics, in a sense, as hockey tickets?  I always liked getting paid to go to hockey games.

And it's time for an endowment, and a dedicated luxury bus with kegerator, and for Cornell athletics to get off the backs of dedicated bandies that want to follow the team when the money isn't there.  Bastards.

PS  The MSU band's arrangements, save Everybody's Everything, were pathetically square.  The All-Funk, All-The-Time CUPB would put their canned spirit to shame.  "That cheer sucks!"

[Robb]

How much does a roadtrip cost for the pep band?  I'll guess:

$1500 for the bus
50 members / 4 per room  * 2 nights * $80 per night = $2000 for hotels

Total = $3500.

Some of the trips probably are only one night, but there will be other incidentals that I left out, and some hotels will be more than $80, so that's probably a decent ballpark average.

With 7 away weekends (including Florida but not including @ Colgate), that's $24,500 per year to hit all the away weekends.  Oh - forgot playoffs.  Let's call it an even $30Gs.

So 30,000/.04 = $750,000 endowment to ensure that the band can go to all away games (assuming that they lose their SAFC funding because they'd have a large endowment).  Maybe if I have that much left when I die, it'll become the "Robb W. Newman '94 Traveling Pep Band."  

[Lauren '06]

[Q]Robb Wrote:

 How much does a roadtrip cost for the pep band?  I'll guess:

$1500 for the bus
50 members / 4 per room  * 2 nights * $80 per night = $2000 for hotels

Total = $3500.

Some of the trips probably are only one night, but there will be other incidentals that I left out, and some hotels will be more than $80, so that's probably a decent ballpark average.

With 7 away weekends (including Florida but not including @ Colgate), that's $24,500 per year to hit all the away weekends.  Oh - forgot playoffs.  Let's call it an even $30Gs.

So 30,000/.04 = $750,000 endowment to ensure that the band can go to all away games (assuming that they lose their SAFC funding because they'd have a large endowment).  Maybe if I have that much left when I die, it'll become the "Robb W. Newman '94 Traveling Pep Band."  

[/q]
Traveling on the Scott Southard '97 Luxury Pep Band Bus :-D

[Robb]

Wait - if you give them a bus, then they only need $2k per trip, so the endowment would only need to be $350k.  Now we're starting to talk reasonable numbers... Hang in there another 60 years, BRPB, and you'll get yours!