Cornell @ RPI, 2/13/26

[Jim Hyla]

Didn't Suda also shock the world with a shoot out goal?

Multiple times! Suda was a known commodity in the shootout:

But he wasn't a known quantity until he shocked the world that first time! (Pretty high draft pick that took some time to work his way into the lineup but graduated a real solid college hockey player.)

I meant "known" to Schafer and the other coaches from practice, but still a shock to us fans. I recall some sly comment Schafer gave in one of the post-games where he said something like "Why wouldn't we go with Suda?"

I'm sure that's true with Casey and Fisher. They practice Shoot Outs and unfortunately OTs.

Casey wouldn't put him out unless he had shown himself. Shoot Out/Penalty shot attempts are certainly different than during the game shots.

Doesn't surprise me that a player that doesn't score a lot (Or at all??) can be good at Shoot Outs.

[Jim Hyla]

Didn't Suda also shock the world with a shoot out goal?

Multiple times! Suda was a known commodity in the shootout:

But he wasn't a known quantity until he shocked the world that first time! (Pretty high draft pick that took some time to work his way into the lineup but graduated a real solid college hockey player.)

I meant "known" to Schafer and the other coaches from practice, but still a shock to us fans. I recall some sly comment Schafer gave in one of the post-games where he said something like "Why wouldn't we go with Suda?"

I'm sure that's true with Casey and Fisher. They practice Shoot Outs and unfortunately OTs.

Casey wouldn't put him out unless he had shown himself. Shoot Out/Penalty shot attempts are certainly different than during the game shots.

Doesn't surprise me that a player that doesn't score a lot (Or at all??) can be good at Shoot Outs.

Oh yeah, and DiGiulian needs to be the 3rd line center again. Major isn't cutting it at the dot and I like his play with the puck better on the wing anyway.

I doubt he'll move back based upon Casey's praise since he moved to center.

But I certainly agree on FOs and his tendency to think he can skate through 3 or 4 opponents.

[stereax]

Didn't Suda also shock the world with a shoot out goal?

Multiple times! Suda was a known commodity in the shootout:

But he wasn't a known quantity until he shocked the world that first time! (Pretty high draft pick that took some time to work his way into the lineup but graduated a real solid college hockey player.)

I meant "known" to Schafer and the other coaches from practice, but still a shock to us fans. I recall some sly comment Schafer gave in one of the post-games where he said something like "Why wouldn't we go with Suda?"

I'm sure that's true with Casey and Fisher. They practice Shoot Outs and unfortunately OTs.

Casey wouldn't put him out unless he had shown himself. Shoot Out/Penalty shot attempts are certainly different than during the game shots.

Doesn't surprise me that a player that doesn't score a lot (Or at all??) can be good at Shoot Outs.

Oh yeah, and DiGiulian needs to be the 3rd line center again. Major isn't cutting it at the dot and I like his play with the puck better on the wing anyway.

I doubt he'll move back based upon Casey's praise since he moved to center.

But I certainly agree on FOs and his tendency to think he can skate through 3 or 4 opponents.

If you wanna keep K-W-DG together, do we have a winger that can take draws?

[VIEWfromK]

Several times Cornell looked to be in a position where they had a 2x1 or some kind of partial break where they could either pass or shoot. They shot each time even though passing always seemed like the better option.

There has to be a middle ground but I still think the biggest noticeable difference between last year and this year has been the willingness to shoot.  I will always prefer a puck to the net over passing up a shot to try to make a play

[VIEWfromK]

This has definitely started to feel like the dog days of the season.  Is it the inexperienced team?  The unbalanced home and away schedule?  Or is it just the typical ECAC gauntlet?

It hasn't been pretty the past couple of games but they are still earning points which is a terrific characteristic.

They have previously been able to ride a different hot hand for their scoring.  Right now they need someone to step back up.

That will probably be the best game RPI plays all season.  The Cornell home game is circled on so many calendars that they always face the other team's best effort.

Hopefully tonight when they get their golden opportunities they burry them.

[Jim Hyla]

Oh yeah, and DiGiulian needs to be the 3rd line center again. Major isn't cutting it at the dot and I like his play with the puck better on the wing anyway.

I doubt he'll move back based upon Casey's praise since he moved to center.

But I certainly agree on FOs and his tendency to think he can skate through 3 or 4 opponents.

If you wanna keep K-W-DG together, do we have a winger that can take draws?

All I want to do is win. And I certainly don't have any knowledge about your second half.

And as I said I agree on F/Os. There was a time toward the end, I believe, when Walsh and Castagna had both been out and we had a defensive draw with Major. Oh crap, I thought.

[BearLover]

Several times Cornell looked to be in a position where they had a 2x1 or some kind of partial break where they could either pass or shoot. They shot each time even though passing always seemed like the better option.

There has to be a middle ground but I still think the biggest noticeable difference between last year and this year has been the willingness to shoot.  I will always prefer a puck to the net over passing up a shot to try to make a play

Pucks to the net is a good strategy in settled play (and last year I was screaming for us to just throw an occasional puck on net on the PP rather than making the tenth consecutive perimeter pass), but on a break I think we are actually shooting too much.

Imagine a 2x1 with where the player with the puck can shoot on goal, which goes in 25% of the time and is saved by the goalie 75% of the time, OR the player can make a pass which is broken up by the defender 50% of the time but, if the pass is completed, it results in a goal 60% of the time. These numbers are totally made up of course, but they felt approximately correct in a few spots last night. The odds-on play is to make the pass, as it results in a goal 30% versus 25% of the time. If the pass gets broken it up it looks bad to not even get a shot off, but passing is still the correct play. 

(Yes these numbers are an oversimplication and leave out several factors.) 

[stereax]

Oh yeah, and DiGiulian needs to be the 3rd line center again. Major isn't cutting it at the dot and I like his play with the puck better on the wing anyway.

I doubt he'll move back based upon Casey's praise since he moved to center.

But I certainly agree on FOs and his tendency to think he can skate through 3 or 4 opponents.

If you wanna keep K-W-DG together, do we have a winger that can take draws?

All I want to do is win. And I certainly don't have any knowledge about your second half.

And as I said I agree on F/Os. There was a time toward the end, I believe, when Walsh and Castagna had both been out and we had a defensive draw with Major. Oh crap, I thought.

Same, haha! Except that line is clicking, so if you want to shuffle so you can give Major a draw-taking winger (think Erik Haula for Jack Hughes here, or guys like Kovich and Penney who I'm told primarily played W here), your options are limited. Pretty sure Catalano's been taking a beating in the dot too recently. Wasn't Arseneault solid on FOs the last time we saw him?

I have this ON RECORD, when I saw 21-9-28 as the third line for the first time I stood there and went "who the hell is taking the draws?" Supposedly Major played C a bit in the USHL, from chatting around? But I always thought he was playing Hage's wing? Anyway...

[VIEWfromK]

Several times Cornell looked to be in a position where they had a 2x1 or some kind of partial break where they could either pass or shoot. They shot each time even though passing always seemed like the better option.

There has to be a middle ground but I still think the biggest noticeable difference between last year and this year has been the willingness to shoot.  I will always prefer a puck to the net over passing up a shot to try to make a play

Pucks to the net is a good strategy in settled play (and last year I was screaming for us to just throw an occasional puck on net on the PP rather than making the tenth consecutive perimeter pass), but on a break I think we are actually shooting too much.

Imagine a 2x1 with where the player with the puck can shoot on goal, which goes in 25% of the time and is saved by the goalie 75% of the time, OR the player can make a pass which is broken up by the defender 50% of the time but, if the pass is completed, it results in a goal 60% of the time. These numbers are totally made up of course, but they felt approximately correct in a few spots last night. The odds-on play is to make the pass, as it results in a goal 30% versus 25% of the time. If the pass gets broken it up it looks bad to not even get a shot off, but passing is still the correct play. 

(Yes these numbers are an oversimplication and leave out several factors.) 

I will take their shooting on the rush this season vs their exclusively passing from last season.  I don't think it should be all or nothing but they must be scoring off of shots at a higher rate this season than scoring off the pass of last season. I will not be looking it up.  It's just a feeling I have.