CHAMPIONS! (PART 2)

[DeltaOne81]

Not to question his integrity at ALL (not Maas', Teeter's - I'm not gonna get into the other one), but just from a general ECAC kinda-perspective, isn't it not a good idea to have people associated with the program be goal judges. Not that 99.9% of people couldn't be totally unbiased 99.9% of the time, but it just seems as if they're taking a risk somewhere in there.

Hey, can I ref in Lake Placid?

[Greg Berge]

> Everything I've read about the incidents suggest some truth, but no proof

I have both heard from Cornell people and read that Maas' main defenders when the accusation surfaced were his other female TA's and associates.  They basically said that Maas is the type of guy who will say "that a girl" or "that a boy" to his friends and collegues, and that the person in question simply went ballistic over something that was, in their opinion, totally innocuous and non-suggestive.

But as a general comment, I think two contradictory things about this:

(1) Being innocent until proven guilty does matter, so people shouldn't repeat secondhand rumors that have "truth but no proof."  When it comes to something that can ruin someone's reputation, truth implies proof.

(2) Having said all of which, OJ did do it (obviously), so proof isn't necessarily a courtroom verdict.

I probably should have just let the comment lie, but rumor-spreading, when there's something important at stake, really ticks me off.  If Jim knows the situation well and has really good reason to assume truth of the accusation, I'd say the place to repeat that is at the Provost's office, not eLF.

Nothing personal here at all, Jim.  You've always seemed like a nice guy as far as I'm concerned.  It's just a hot button issue to me.

[min \'97]

regarding goal judges (and not professor maas!), i don't think it matters overall if someone related to the program happens to be also the goal judge. if every school in the ecac does it, then the potential 'judgment bias' cancels out in the final analysis. of course, i am not refering to any specific person here. i'm sure that to be a judge, a sense of integrity and fairness, not affiliation, is paramount.

[CowbellGuy]

And the bottom line, which everyone seems to have glossed over, is that goal judges don't have any real power, short of making the crowd get loud. Other than the incident this year where the ref conferred with the goal judge, I've never seen them play an actual role in the outcome of a game.