Highlights?

[RichH]

Didn't Harry Orr wear 19? Jim?  Al?

http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_Uniform_Numbers.html

[Al DeFlorio]

Didn't Harry Orr wear 19? Jim?  Al?

Sure did.  How many times was Abbott first-team All-American?  Glad to see Doug Ferguson rate a jersey this time, although Tredway was a great one, too.

[Scersk '97]

Didn't Harry Orr wear 19? Jim?  Al?

Sure did.  How many times was Abbott first-team All-American?  Glad to see Doug Ferguson rate a jersey this time, although Tredway was a great one, too.

21 and 23 were curious choices. Have to go with Chartrand or Baby for 21. (Or John Hughes, if he actually wore the number.) 23? Ross Lemon.

[Swampy]

Didn't Harry Orr wear 19? Jim?  Al?

Yes he did. And to support my contention that Chris Abbott is a curious choice, here are the data (Source: TBRW). Notice that even after the ageless Harry moved to defense, his seasonal point production was about twice Abbott's; Abbott's career PPG = 0.4, Orr's PPG = 1.2.

[Swampy]

Didn't Harry Orr wear 19? Jim?  Al?

Sure did.  How many times was Abbott first-team All-American?  Glad to see Doug Ferguson rate a jersey this time, although Tredway was a great one, too.

21 and 23 were curious choices. Have to go with Chartrand or Baby for 21. (Or John Hughes, if he actually wore the number.) 23? Ross Lemon.

Well for 21 you'd also have to consider Bruce Pattison. I couldn't get TBRW to generate data for Baby (probably because of the "a" in his name), but here are some revealing results for the others. Points per game are: Chartrand, 0.80; Manderville, 1.05; Pattison, 0.99. Remember, Pattison played defense, but most of us today would trade our children to have just one forward with stats like his.

[TimV]

Ha! No age listed for Harry.  He was 32 his sophomore year.::whistle::

[BMac]

Thanks!!!

[Al DeFlorio]

Pattison, a two-time first-team All-American, was a converted forward as were several of Ned's defensemen.  NHL career seems to have influenced the choice of Manderville.

[Jim Hyla]

I can't argue against Manderville, but the others are also good choices. Personally I would have picked Baby. I think he was the most important player in the great run we had in early 2000s. Whatever the situation, I always wanted him on the ice. I agree that Harry Orr should get 19, but thought about Bertrand. Although I didn't like his coaching, he was a somewhat successful coach. However the criteria was as a "player", so maybe coaching didn't count.

[Scersk '97]

However the criteria was as a "player", so maybe coaching didn't count.

Well, I'm sure the criteria was really "who I picked," which is fine and interesting in its own way.

[KeithK]

Well for 21 you'd also have to consider Bruce Pattison. I couldn't get TBRW to generate data for Baby (probably because of the "a" in his name), but here are some revealing results for the others. Points per game are: Chartrand, 0.80; Manderville, 1.05; Pattison, 0.99. Remember, Pattison played defense, but most of us today would trade our children to have just one forward with stats like his.

Just using points per game is a bit misleading.  For example, comparing someone from the mid 00's to another from the high scoring 70's is always going to look unfair on the surface,  You really need to normalize the stats based on the scoring environment at the time.  Or at least your best guess at, since coming up with an accurate, meaningful number might be challenging in the era of highly unbalanced schedules. (Though who knows, maybe a straight goals average across the league would work well enough.)

Definitely need to use league scoring, not Cornell scoring though.

[jkahn]

Didn't Harry Orr wear 19? Jim?  Al?

Sure did.  How many times was Abbott first-team All-American?  Glad to see Doug Ferguson rate a jersey this time, although Tredway was a great one, too.

21 and 23 were curious choices. Have to go with Chartrand or Baby for 21. (Or John Hughes, if he actually wore the number.) 23? Ross Lemon.

John Hughes wore 10 as a sophomore, 20 as a junior and 21 as a senior.  Back then, upperclassmen frequently switched to a number they liked better after it became available.  Hughes is the only one I remember who had three different numbers, but others in that era who switched numbers would include Kevin Pettit from 10 to 7, Brian Cornell 16 to 8, Brian McCutcheon 18 to 9, Bob McGuinn 15 to 7 and Jim Higgs 12 to 6.

[Swampy]

Well for 21 you'd also have to consider Bruce Pattison. I couldn't get TBRW to generate data for Baby (probably because of the "a" in his name), but here are some revealing results for the others. Points per game are: Chartrand, 0.80; Manderville, 1.05; Pattison, 0.99. Remember, Pattison played defense, but most of us today would trade our children to have just one forward with stats like his.

Just using points per game is a bit misleading.  For example, comparing someone from the mid 00's to another from the high scoring 70's is always going to look unfair on the surface,  You really need to normalize the stats based on the scoring environment at the time.  Or at least your best guess at, since coming up with an accurate, meaningful number might be challenging in the era of highly unbalanced schedules. (Though who knows, maybe a straight goals average across the league would work well enough.)

Definitely need to use league scoring, not Cornell scoring though.

This is left as an exercise for the reader.