Blame it on the fans?

[Jim Hyla]

Three penalties taken in the offensive zone in the third period while nursing a one-goal lead at Lynah East is a perfect example.

In the team's defense, two of those penalties were absolute joke calls.

(I don't disagree with your general point, though, just not sure that this example really illustrates it.)

In the game at Harvard?  Nonsense.  I called all three of them at the same time as the ref did.  Dumb.

Disagree with me if you want, there's no need for name-calling, especially since penalties are often subjective and reasonable minds can differ on what deserves be called.

Josh, obviously I'm not sure, but I think he meant the penalties were dumb, not that you were. Offensive zone penalties, when you are ahead, are often "dumb".

[Al DeFlorio]

Three penalties taken in the offensive zone in the third period while nursing a one-goal lead at Lynah East is a perfect example.

In the team's defense, two of those penalties were absolute joke calls.

(I don't disagree with your general point, though, just not sure that this example really illustrates it.)

In the game at Harvard?  Nonsense.  I called all three of them at the same time as the ref did.  Dumb.

Disagree with me if you want, there's no need for name-calling, especially since penalties are often subjective and reasonable minds can differ on what deserves be called.

Josh, the penalties were "dumb," not you.

[Josh '99]

Three penalties taken in the offensive zone in the third period while nursing a one-goal lead at Lynah East is a perfect example.

In the team's defense, two of those penalties were absolute joke calls.

(I don't disagree with your general point, though, just not sure that this example really illustrates it.)

In the game at Harvard?  Nonsense.  I called all three of them at the same time as the ref did.  Dumb.

Disagree with me if you want, there's no need for name-calling, especially since penalties are often subjective and reasonable minds can differ on what deserves be called.

Josh, the penalties were "dumb," not you.

My bad then; sorry, this is twice in recent weeks that I've misread something you wrote in this kind of fashion, maybe I AM a little bit of teh dumb lately.  ::doh::

[Al DeFlorio]

Three penalties taken in the offensive zone in the third period while nursing a one-goal lead at Lynah East is a perfect example.

In the team's defense, two of those penalties were absolute joke calls.

(I don't disagree with your general point, though, just not sure that this example really illustrates it.)

In the game at Harvard?  Nonsense.  I called all three of them at the same time as the ref did.  Dumb.

Disagree with me if you want, there's no need for name-calling, especially since penalties are often subjective and reasonable minds can differ on what deserves be called.

Josh, the penalties were "dumb," not you.

My bad then; sorry, this is twice in recent weeks that I've misread something you wrote in this kind of fashion, maybe I AM a little bit of teh dumb lately.  ::doh::

Nah.B-]

[billhoward]

At Friday's Cornell-Harvard game, the penalties called in the U end where we sat seemed about right. The delay of game penalty, as I saw it, the referees ignored the 2 itty bitty fish that fell near Garman and only when the bottle/can and wadded up newspaper went over the side at the Harvard sieve end did we get whistled.

About time for another thread of the mediocrity of the Cornell webcasts.

[Trotsky]

At Friday's Cornell-Harvard game, the penalties called in the U end where we sat seemed about right. The delay of game penalty, as I saw it, the referees ignored the 2 itty bitty fish that fell near Garman and only when the bottle/can and wadded up newspaper went over the side at the Harvard sieve end did we get whistled.

About time for another thread of the mediocrity of the Cornell webcasts.

I couldn't tell jack from the webcast, but Jason opined that the officials had let quite a bit go on both sides in both games.  I know I was terrified down the stretch of the Dartmouth game every time a Big Green player tripped.

[billhoward]

With a minute to go in the second, the Cantabs' David Valek was chasing a Cornell player behind the Harvard net, reached out and got the stick a little bit around the Cornell waist, and you could see the Cornell player wobble for a moment. (I don't think he went down.) A penalty, I thought, but also maybe a borderline call in a close game they might miss or let go. Nope. Bob Ritchie in the corner 15 feet behind the play had his arm up immediately. I don't recall Harvard arguing the call beyond the usual who-me shrug. Ritchie has refereed the world juniors and is relatively young. With some older refs, I think they may be chugging up and down the ice, get winded late in the game, and maybe try to make / not make calls from too far away. Of course, with four officials on the ice, it's harder to get away with things now. So, if Cornell is a goon team (non Cornell viewers, I say this as a theoretical), then the extra refs should cost Cornell some of its advantage.

At Union and RPI, whatever could be said about the officials, I think it was the teams (and I suppose then too the coaches) who had lost control. The alleged Union cheap shot late in the third, when the game was more than out of reach, and Dan Nicholls' re-enactment of the True Grit vengeance scene at Union wasn't something an official could stop unless he had ESP.