Cornell-RPI Postgame (Game 2) 3/14/09

[lynah80]

From Time Wilkins of the Times Union:

Who is running the ECAC?

http://blogs.timesunion.com/hockey/?p=1533#comment-411

[imafrshmn]

[quote lynah80]
Who is running the ECAC?
[/quote]

This reads like a post from USCHO RPI fans, not exactly the best journalism.  Though, perhaps there is a point to be made that Coach Schafer does have some weight (no pun) to throw around the ECAC.

[cbuckser]

[quote adamw]I just posted a stream of consciousness blog regarding Schafer. Curious to hear feedback about it. It's in line with Beeeej's opening statement.

http://blog.collegehockeynews.com/[/quote]

Recalling that Mike Schafer said that he was going to get suspended moments before his January 2004 remarks about uncalled hits from behind, I asked Brandon Thomas about whether Schafer tried to get suspended.  Brandon responded that he believed that Schafer's comments were calculated and that he seemed willing to get suspended in order to get his message across.

Edit:  I forgot to give you feedback.  I agree with everything you wrote.

[cbuckser]

[quote KeithK]Anyone know what Cornell's record is for most shots taken in a game?  I'm sure it's something absurdly high from back in the 60's or 70's.  Tonight's 56 has to be the most in a long while.  Not to mentioning the 47 shot differential.[/quote]
With the exception of international hockey games between an established power and a hockey program days away from relegation, I cannot recall ever seeing a greater than 6-to-1 shots-on-goal ratio.

[marty]

[quote lynah80][quote lynah80][quote Beeeej] "... goonery from the bottom-dwelling teams that that have nothing to lose by trying it, and risks the injuries that officiating is supposed to prevent.[/quote]

That's the way RPI approaches every game.  Not trying to be funny here.[/quote]

PIM/game

RPI - 19.6, #4 in the nation
Cornell - 13.3[/quote]

From section 7 at Houston I'd say a lot of their penalty minutes are due to poor decisions and lack of ability.  I don't consider the Appert teams anywhere near as much the goon squads as those of the Fridge.  Burgdoerfer excluded - but he doesn't even live up to the mentality and dirtiness of many of the RIP alums.

And I certainly am not talking about individual games just the season as a whole.  These guys just play dumb.

[ursusminor]

Beware the Ides of March! ::innocent::

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Killer]Did RPI have a legit SOG in the 3rd period, meaning one that they themselves actually took?  I see in the box score that they had 1, but I recall hearing the RPI announcer say that Scrivens had to stop an errant pass by one of our guys that was supposed to go behind the net, but wound up on-goal.  Is it possible that that was the 1 save he had for the period?[/quote]

I believe something like that is only supposed to count as a SOG if it goes in.  Same thing with a clear off the boards that ends up on net.

[andyw2100]

[quote Beeeej]
Well, I just punished myself by reading the entire rulebook.  It doesn't explicitly prohibit the officials from returning sticks to players, but that doesn't surprise me - it's possible the rules committee never even contemplated that an official would do such a thing. [/quote]

And while I have not read the rulebook I'd be willing to bet it also doesn't say anything explicitly about the refs not being allowed to play with yo-yos during play or anything prohibiting them form pairing up and ballroom-dancing to the music the band plays during stoppages. It probably also doesn't prevent them from officiating while on unicycles or while wearing Groucho Marx glasses. I've never seen any of those things done, though, just like, until last night, I had never seen a ref retrieve a goalie's stick for him during play.

[Avash]

[quote jtwcornell91][quote Killer]Did RPI have a legit SOG in the 3rd period, meaning one that they themselves actually took?  I see in the box score that they had 1, but I recall hearing the RPI announcer say that Scrivens had to stop an errant pass by one of our guys that was supposed to go behind the net, but wound up on-goal.  Is it possible that that was the 1 save he had for the period?[/quote]

I believe something like that is only supposed to count as a SOG if it goes in.  Same thing with a clear off the boards that ends up on net.[/quote]

They actually did have a legitimate shot on goal (though it came fairly harmlessly from outside the blue line). M. Kennedy's errant pass back to Scrivens didn't count as the SOG.

[ACM]

[quote Beeeej][quote Trotsky][quote ACM]Very likely, this game tied the record for fewest shots allowed in a game. At least, that was the record in "The Cornell Hockey Record Book", and I can't recall a game in which the record was broken since that book was published.[/quote]

On 10/29/04, McKee and Davenport combined to stop 7 of 8 shots by Army.[/quote]

Interesting that College Hockey Stats has it as 9.[/quote]

The copy of the box score that I have also shows Army with 9 shots, as do the shot charts (4/2/3 by period).

[ACM]

From the NCAA Ice Hockey Statisticians' Manual:

SECTION 4—SHOTS
Article 1. A shot is an attempt that is taken with the intent of scoring and is directed toward the goal. Possible outcomes of a shot are that it is blocked by the defense, is not on target or is on target and qualifies as a shot on goal.
Article 2. A shot on goal is a shot that is on target. Results of a shot on goal must be either a save by the goaltender or a goal by the offensive team. A shot that hits the post or crossbar and does not cross the goal line is not a shot on goal. If a skater blocks a shot headed toward an empty net, it is recorded as a blocked shot and thus not a shot on goal. Only a goaltender can record a save.

SECTION 6—GOALTENDING
Article 4. A save for a goaltender and a shot on goal for a player or team shall be credited only when the goaltender has prevented the puck from entering the net, and must be recorded on each occasion that the goaltender prevents a goal. If a member of the goaltender's own team directed the puck at the goal, then a shot on goal shall be recorded for the last opposing player to have touched the puck. A team's shots on goal always must equal the sum of the team's goals and the opposing goaltender's saves.