Polls 10/30/06

Beeeej · October 30, 2006, 04:19:41 PM

USCHO/CSTV Poll:

1 Maine (37) 6-0-0 796 1 
2 Minnesota ( 1) 6-1-0 739 3 
3 Boston College ( 2) 4-1-0 732 5 
4 Miami  6-2-0 636 7 
5 Wisconsin  3-3-2 546 2 
6 Michigan State  3-1-0 541 9 
7 Boston University  2-1-1 536 4 
8 North Dakota  5-3-0 520 10 
9 Michigan  4-2-0 513 6 
10 Notre Dame  5-1-0 409 12 
11 Dartmouth  2-0-0 378 17 
12 Cornell  2-0-0 359 13 
13 New Hampshire  2-2-0 248 8 
14 Clarkson  4-1-1 232 15 
15 Denver  4-4-0 220 14 
16 Harvard  0-1-0 215 11 
17 St. Cloud State  2-2-0 193 16 
18 Michigan Tech  5-1-0 165 NR 
19 Northern Michigan  4-3-1 92 18 
20 Nebraska-Omaha  3-1-2 75 NR 
Others Receiving Votes: Rensselaer 51, Alaska 40, Minnesota-Duluth 39,
Vermont 34, Colgate 25, Colorado College 18, Yale 18, Massachusetts 12,
Lake Superior 8, Holy Cross 3, Niagara 2, Ohio State 2, Bemidji State 1,
Mass.-Lowell 1, RIT 1 


USA Today/American Hockey:

1. Maine (34) 6-0-0 520 1 
2. Minnesota 6-1-0 470 3 
3. Boston College 4-1-0 448 5 
4. Miami (Ohio) 6-2-0 394 7 
5. Michigan State 3-1-0 330 10 
6. North Dakota 5-3-0 320 9 
7. Wisconsin 3-3-2 300 2 
8. Boston 2-1-1 267 4 
9. Michigan 4-2-0 244 6 
10. Notre Dame 5-1-0 211 11 
11. Cornell 2-0-0 156 15 
12. Dartmouth 2-0-0 148 NR 
13. Clarkson 4-1-1 74 14 
14. New Hampshire 2-2-0 71 8 
15. Michigan Tech 5-1-0 31 NR 
 
Others receiving votes: Harvard 30, Denver, 29, St. Cloud State 13,
Nebraska-Omaha 7, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 5, Northern Michigan
4, Colgate 2, Minnesota Duluth 1, Holy Cross 1.

ebilmes · October 30, 2006, 04:22:21 PM

USA Today is also up. I don't have enough time to do the formatting. We moved up 4 slots, to 11.

ftyuv · October 30, 2006, 04:28:59 PM

How are we so low!? Looking at the KRACH, we're infinitely better than all those teams, except for Maine, Minnesota and Dartmouth.

Ben Rocky '04 · October 30, 2006, 04:30:32 PM

Both RIT and RMU were NCAA games, not exhibition, right?

Beeeej · October 30, 2006, 04:33:50 PM

Yes, hence why we are listed as 2-0-0.

Chris '03 · October 30, 2006, 04:37:23 PM

[quote Beeeej]Yes, hence why we are listed as 2-0-0.[/quote]

Whether the RIT game counts for NCAA tournament selection purposes is an open question. I'm not certain it does but I haven't seen anything definitive on the issue.

Beeeej · October 30, 2006, 04:39:37 PM

[quote Chris '03][quote Beeeej]Yes, hence why we are listed as 2-0-0.[/quote]

Whether the RIT game counts for NCAA tournament selection purposes is an open question. I'm not certain it does but I haven't seen anything definitive on the issue.[/quote]

My understanding is that it does not count toward tournament selection purposes. But the question was whether it was an "NCAA game" as opposed to an exhibition game, which it was.

jtwcornell91 · October 30, 2006, 04:49:30 PM

[quote ftyuv]How are we so low!? Looking at the KRACH, we're infinitely better than all those teams, except for Maine, Minnesota and Dartmouth.[/quote]

Actually, he forgot Poland ... I mean Harvard.

Ben Rocky '04 · October 30, 2006, 05:46:43 PM

I was actually asking about the NCAA tourney, and if we're 2-0-0 why they didn't necessarily count for tournament selection yet still were NCAA games.

nyc94 · October 30, 2006, 05:55:25 PM

[quote Ben Rocky 04]I was actually asking about the NCAA tourney, and if we're 2-0-0 why they did didn't necessarily count for tournament selection yet still were NCAA games.[/quote]

Because RIT is not eligible to compete in the NCAA tournament until the 2007-2008 season. It's just a rule that only games against tournament eligible teams count when determining the NCAA field.

edit: RIT is not even eligible for the AHA tournamnet this year.

KeithK · October 30, 2006, 07:18:05 PM

[quote nyc94]RIT is not even eligible for the AHA tournamnet this year.[/quote]They're not? Well that seems odd. But I guess the league doesn't want to run the chance of the tournament champion being ineligible to use the auto bid.

Any NC$$ rules lawyers out there want to take a crack at what would happen if RIT did play and win the AHA tournament? Would the league lose its bid? Be able to assign it to the runner-up or RS champs? Or is there just a blanket prohibition of teams that are ineligible from participating in post-season tournament? (This would cover teams on suspension too.)

Beeeej · October 31, 2006, 10:21:54 AM

My understanding of the autobids is that each conference is welcome to apply it as they see fit; it just happens that all six have chosen to give it to the conference tournament winner. However, I suspect that the decision has to be made prior to the beginning of the season. So if RIT were AHA-tourney eligible, and they won that tourney, the AHA couldn't then turn around and say, "Ah, but AIC won the regular season, so they're going to the NCAAs."