LeNeveu-Eliot comparison

Started by Big Red, April 10, 2006, 09:43:23 AM

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RichS

that's "Canadiens" team.  or Les Habiatants.

Beeeej

[quote RichS]that's "Canadiens" team.  or Les Habiatants.[/quote]

"Les Habitants," réellement.

Beeeej
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Roy 82

Unfortunately, NCAA regulations require that all ice hockey awards be named after former Princeton players.  ::uhoh::

Rich S

Certainment!  My fingers did it again.

adamw

Voting for the Hobey is done after the Regionals ... I selected Potulny and Carle over Elliott because those two were simply, clearly, observably dominant college hockey players.  While, obviously, a goaltender who is merely great has a greater impact on a hockey game, theoretically, than one dominant skater ... within their position, Carle and Potulny were dominant players.  Elliott, through design, perhaps, does not steal games - though, of course, there's something to be said for his steadiness.

I wrote about this here, if anyone cares:
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2006/04/07_analyzing.php
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2006/04/14_howard.php
College Hockey News: http://www.collegehockeynews.com

Jim Hyla

[quote adamw]Voting for the Hobey is done after the Regionals ... I selected Potulny and Carle over Elliott because those two were simply, clearly, observably dominant college hockey players.  While, obviously, a goaltender who is merely great has a greater impact on a hockey game, theoretically, than one dominant skater ... within their position, Carle and Potulny were dominant players.  Elliott, through design, perhaps, does not steal games - though, of course, there's something to be said for his steadiness.
[/quote]All the more reason to have a separate goalie award. It's too hard to compare the skaters and the goalies.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

billhoward

[quote Jim Hyla][quote adamw]Voting for the Hobey is done after the Regionals ... I selected Potulny and Carle over Elliott because those two were simply, clearly, observably dominant college hockey players.  While, obviously, a goaltender who is merely great has a greater impact on a hockey game, theoretically, than one dominant skater ... within their position, Carle and Potulny were dominant players.  Elliott, through design, perhaps, does not steal games - though, of course, there's something to be said for his steadiness.
[/quote]All the more reason to have a separate goalie award. It's too hard to compare the skaters and the goalies.[/quote]

In the pros, you have to make a choice where to spend your money, and you don't get a separate pot marked "goaltender." In college, sure, it's hard to determine if a great goalie is more valuable than a great forward, or defender for that matter ... but the beauty of awards such as the Hobey is it keeps fans arguing over the possibilities long after the rinks  have been defrosted for the summer months.

ninian '72

[quote Swampy] The one thing this doesn't tell you is that it's a statue of Dryden in the middle of a game! It's a classic Dryden pose on those Cornell and Canadian teams that dominated the opposition![/quote]

I love it! It's dead-on.  Even leaning on the crossbar. I wondered how much of this was calculated theater on Dryden's part.  Motionless and looking bored.  Must have driven other teams crazy.

DeltaOne81

[quote ninian '72][quote Swampy] The one thing this doesn't tell you is that it's a statue of Dryden in the middle of a game! It's a classic Dryden pose on those Cornell and Canadian teams that dominated the opposition![/quote]

I love it! It's dead-on.  Even leaning on the crossbar. I wondered how much of this was calculated theater on Dryden's part.  Motionless and looking bored.  Must have driven other teams crazy.[/quote]

Never been to the HHOF, huh? :)

I'm pretty sure somewhere in The Game Dryden says that it was at least part, if not mostly, theater. I'll pick up my copy tonight and see if I can find it ;)

Dpperk29

someone oughta teach that one to leggio...


I know it was low... but I couldn't resist...

sorry rich
"That damn bell at Clarkson." -Ken Dryden in reference to his hatred for the Clarkson Bell.