O'Byrne a Liability?

[BCrespi]

I see what you're saying, but interference and holding calls could certainly be affected by Ryan's size.  It is not really a question that such things go on all the time off and on the puck.  However, when a much bigger player happens to nudge a guy off of the puck, odds are much greater that he'll go flying or fall, or at least that the ref will notice the infraction.  I'm not saying O'Byrne's penalties are excusible, one must learn to play withing himself, just that size can affect these calls as well.

[Robb]

[Q]jim kensington Wrote:
  Only three of his twenty-five penalties were converted into goals.
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Right in line with our 88% kill.

On the other hand, there's also the opportunity cost of a penalty - that's 44 (+ whatever time we spent on the 3 unsuccessful kills) minutes of hockey that we didn't get to play offense...

[puff]

Just to add another twist to the discussion, did any of our shorthanded goals come with him in the box?

[puff]

Just to add another twist to the discussion, did any of our shorthanded goals come with him in the box? Because then can we really say that it hurt our offense? ::nut::  ::screwy::

[KeithK]

[q]Because then can we really say that it hurt our offense? nut[/q]If we had anyone scoring goals short handed like John Madden did at Michigan then it might be reasonable to say that penalties don't hurt the offense.  But given that we don't it's fair to say that being short handed hurts our offensive chances, even if we do get a goal from time to time.

[puff]

i was hoping that the  ::nut::  ::screwy::  would indicate my sarcasm. maybe i should have added the randy moss. ::moon::
does anyone else notice that i'm bored today?

[Harrier]

Does anyone remember the early careers of Dan Ratushny and Doug Murray - also guilty of untimely penatlies.  To call Obyrne a liability is crazy - he is very needed to contribute huge minutes every night.  Also, when he does cross check someone in front - at times that is an acceptable statement - DON'T COME HERE for sloppy goals in front of our net.

Quit bashing OB!  They physical D is needed, risks and all.

[billhoward]

Perhaps with Sasha Pokoluk down for the duration (of the RS at least) the rest of the players will step up a notch, including O'Byrne. I wonder if Troy Davenport could have played defense. That was Ken Dryden's position when he was just fooling around.

[The Rancor]

Dan Glover anyone? geez he is a draft pick, and a gutsy hitter. we are deep on the blue line, and although 'Pokoluk-y charms' is great and all, but i don't worry too much about losing him for a couple weeks.