Cornell at Union 1/6/2023

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Roy 82

#30
January 06, 2023, 10:19:20 PM
Quote from: French RageSeger was like a rock out there.

Ye siree Bob.

French Rage

#31
January 06, 2023, 10:20:29 PM
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: French RageSeger was like a rock out there.

Ye siree Bob.

Working on his goal moves, trying to beat those awkward forward blues.
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

BearLover

#32
January 07, 2023, 11:21:56 AM
Cornell is looking far more dominant at winning and maintaining possession than they did at any point last season. If not for scheduling two games at Duluth to begin the season, we'd be one of the best Pairwise teams in the country. Let's see if we can keep it up.

scoop85

#33
January 07, 2023, 11:25:46 AM
Quote from: BearLoverCornell is looking far more dominant at winning and maintaining possession than they did at any point last season. If not for scheduling two games at Duluth to begin the season, we'd be one of the best Pairwise teams in the country. Let's see if we can keep it up.

Yes, our puck possession has been more noticeable this year. I'm not an analytics guy, but I'd be interested to see a comparison of the numbers.

Trotsky

#34
January 07, 2023, 11:56:15 AM
We really lay the wood to bad teams, which should help us accumulate precious points against the bottom of the conference.

dbilmes

#35
January 07, 2023, 04:44:50 PM
There's nothing too scintillating on it, but Ken Schott's podcast has all of the post-game quotes from both Cornell and Union.

Trotsky

#36
January 07, 2023, 05:57:50 PM
I liked when Mike's post-game presser was on YouTube.  They don't appear to do that anymore.  :-(

marty

#37
January 07, 2023, 06:05:17 PM
Quote from: TrotskyI liked when Mike's post-game presser was on YouTube.  They don't appear to do that anymore.  :-(

Eco-friendly. Think of the KWHr's saved.
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Trotsky

#38
January 07, 2023, 06:48:50 PM
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Quote from: TrotskyI liked when Mike's post-game presser was on YouTube.  They don't appear to do that anymore.  :-(

Eco-friendly. Think of the KWHr's saved.
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upprdeck

#39
January 07, 2023, 09:48:23 PM
it requires some effort from the communication team I suppose

BearLover

#40
January 09, 2023, 01:38:47 PM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: BearLoverCornell is looking far more dominant at winning and maintaining possession than they did at any point last season. If not for scheduling two games at Duluth to begin the season, we'd be one of the best Pairwise teams in the country. Let's see if we can keep it up.

Yes, our puck possession has been more noticeable this year. I'm not an analytics guy, but I'd be interested to see a comparison of the numbers.
Someone correct me if this data exists, but I believe time of possession is not publicly tracked for college hockey. The best we have is shot attempts, which does a decent job approximating possession. CHN's stats page tracks a team's Corsi (percentage of total shot attempts) and Fenwick (percentage of unblocked shot attempts). CHN also provides these statistics "close," i.e. only with respect to the portion of a hockey game when the score is within one goal.

Our possession numbers are strong, by these metrics. Our Corsi is 8th and our "close" Corsi is 12th. Our Fenwick is 4th and our "close" Fenwick is 3rd. (Quinnipiac is #1 in the country in all of these except #2 in Corsi non-close.) With that said, there is a major caveat, which is that these numbers do not adjust for strength of schedule. Our SOS is 38th in the country. (Quinnipiac's is 39th.) Our numbers would obviously be worse if we were regularly playing other top teams. Also, we are dealing with small sample sizes, especially with respect to the "close" metrics. Many of our games this year have been blowouts and saw little time during which the score was within one goal. When the game is not close, the team that is behind will press harder and rack up more shot attempts.

Funnily, the 2019-20 team was 9th in Corsi, 9th in Corse "close," tied for 7th in Fenwick and 6th in Fenwick "close." Last year's team was 8th in Corsi, 9th in Corsi "close," 8th in Fenwick, and 9th in Fenwick "close." So, our "possession" numbers have been essentially unchanged the last three seasons, despite massively different results. (And our SOS was 38th and 39th in the last two seasons, so also essentially unchanged.) Are we an equally good possession team every year, and the only variables that change are shooting percentage and save percentage? That's what the numbers suggest, at least.

TimV

#41
January 09, 2023, 04:56:59 PM
Anybody ever notice the inscription on the back of Keopple's helmet?

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abmarks

#42
January 09, 2023, 05:50:44 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: BearLoverCornell is looking far more dominant at winning and maintaining possession than they did at any point last season. If not for scheduling two games at Duluth to begin the season, we'd be one of the best Pairwise teams in the country. Let's see if we can keep it up.

Yes, our puck possession has been more noticeable this year. I'm not an analytics guy, but I'd be interested to see a comparison of the numbers.
Someone correct me if this data exists, but I believe time of possession is not publicly tracked for college hockey. The best we have is shot attempts, which does a decent job approximating possession. CHN's stats page tracks a team's Corsi (percentage of total shot attempts) and Fenwick (percentage of unblocked shot attempts). CHN also provides these statistics "close," i.e. only with respect to the portion of a hockey game when the score is within one goal.

Our possession numbers are strong, by these metrics. Our Corsi is 8th and our "close" Corsi is 12th. Our Fenwick is 4th and our "close" Fenwick is 3rd. (Quinnipiac is #1 in the country in all of these except #2 in Corsi non-close.) With that said, there is a major caveat, which is that these numbers do not adjust for strength of schedule. Our SOS is 38th in the country. (Quinnipiac's is 39th.) Our numbers would obviously be worse if we were regularly playing other top teams. Also, we are dealing with small sample sizes, especially with respect to the "close" metrics. Many of our games this year have been blowouts and saw little time during which the score was within one goal. When the game is not close, the team that is behind will press harder and rack up more shot attempts.

Funnily, the 2019-20 team was 9th in Corsi, 9th in Corse "close," tied for 7th in Fenwick and 6th in Fenwick "close." Last year's team was 8th in Corsi, 9th in Corsi "close," 8th in Fenwick, and 9th in Fenwick "close." So, our "possession" numbers have been essentially unchanged the last three seasons, despite massively different results. (And our SOS was 38th and 39th in the last two seasons, so also essentially unchanged.) Are we an equally good possession team every year, and the only variables that change are shooting percentage and save percentage? That's what the numbers suggest, at least.

I'd want to know if shot quality and location had changed.
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