Frozen Four Tickets 2018

Started by abmarks, November 06, 2017, 11:01:16 AM

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Trotsky

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: RichHOr, you know, judging how they've handled visiting tickets this year, they'll get them and send them all back because our Athletics Dept doesn't want to do any actual work.

What does this mean?
Cornell didn't sell tickets to away games this year.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: RichHOr, you know, judging how they've handled visiting tickets this year, they'll get them and send them all back because our Athletics Dept doesn't want to do any actual work.

What does this mean?
Cornell didn't sell tickets to away games this year.

True, but a little investigation would show that this was a decision made by the ECAC for all schools. It wasn't something that CU decided on its own.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Beeeej

Quote from: RichHBut yeah, basically, there will always be a way to find tickets, be it through Cornell, another school, or the open market, even if it's a Gopher party in Gopherland. The event is held in large enough venues and enough sponsor tickets are given out to people who don't care that much.

And since it's never in the same place twice within a three or four-year span, local scalpers always seem to be overoptimistic, so you can usually walk up on the day of the semifinals and get a bargain if you're willing to risk it.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

marty

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: RichHBut yeah, basically, there will always be a way to find tickets, be it through Cornell, another school, or the open market, even if it's a Gopher party in Gopherland. The event is held in large enough venues and enough sponsor tickets are given out to people who don't care that much.

And since it's never in the same place twice within a three or four-year span, local scalpers always seem to be overoptimistic, so you can usually walk up on the day of the semifinals and get a bargain if you're willing to risk it.

Boston might be the exception.  There are always ATMs for your convenience.  I have a friend who has gone to the FF (or Beanpot??) in Boston with hundred dollar bills in his pocket.  He  told me he has always been able to buy tickets.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: RichHOr, you know, judging how they've handled visiting tickets this year, they'll get them and send them all back because our Athletics Dept doesn't want to do any actual work.

What does this mean?
Cornell didn't sell tickets to away games this year.

True, but a little investigation would show that this was a decision made by the ECAC for all schools. It wasn't something that CU decided on its own.
Huh.  Did they give a reason?

RichH

Quote from: Jim HylaTrue, but a little investigation would show that this was a decision made by the ECAC for all schools. It wasn't something that CU decided on its own.

Was this part of a press release by the league? Where did this very meaningful investigative effort lead you to this information?

Jim Hyla

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Jim HylaTrue, but a little investigation would show that this was a decision made by the ECAC for all schools. It wasn't something that CU decided on its own.

Was this part of a press release by the league? Where did this very meaningful investigative effort lead you to this information?

Just by talking to a number of people at the rink. In particular Sue Detzer & Anne Dykes. Some schools complained that visiting teams didn't get the unsold tickets back to the home school in time for them to be sold to their fans. So they decided that visiting fans would have to buy their tickets from the home school.

Some could be purchased online and designating specific seats, but no mention of a visiting fan section. Others allowed phone purchase and you could ask for the visiting section.

All together a poor experience, but not one that CU initiated by themselves. Hopefully it will change next year.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Jim HylaTrue, but a little investigation would show that this was a decision made by the ECAC for all schools. It wasn't something that CU decided on its own.

Was this part of a press release by the league? Where did this very meaningful investigative effort lead you to this information?

Just by talking to a number of people at the rink. In particular Sue Detzer & Anne Dykes. Some schools complained that visiting teams didn't get the unsold tickets back to the home school in time for them to be sold to their fans. So they decided that visiting fans would have to buy their tickets from the home school.

Some could be purchased online and designating specific seats, but no mention of a visiting fan section. Others allowed phone purchase and you could ask for the visiting section.

All together a poor experience, but not one that CU initiated by themselves. Hopefully it will change next year.

Thanks, Jim.

It really did p-ss A LOT of people off.  I wouldn't be surprised if Cornell wasn't one of the schools complaining about receiving their allotment back.  To be blunt, where else would it matter?  Who else sells out?  Q, maybe Union and Clarkson.

Here is attendance in 2017 (and 2018):Rank Team  Dates Total  Average Capacity 2017 %  2018 %  Change
[color=#b31b1b]20 Cor   16 62,530 3,908 4,267 91.6    82.1   -9.5[/color]
23 Qpc   18 56,373 3,132 3,086 101.5   100.3   -1.2
24 Yal   16 49,446 3,090 3,486 88.7    92.1   +3.4
25 RPI   16 49,389 3,087 5,217 59.2    57.8   -1.4
29 Clk   18 48,759 2,709 3,000 90.3    95.4   +5.1
32 Drt   15 38,424 2,562 4,500 56.9    45.3  -11.6
34 Hvd   15 36,991 2,466 3,095 79.7    78.4   -1.3
41 Uni   16 33,620 2,101 2,225 94.4    92.2   -2.2
46 Cgt   16 29,020 1,814 2,222 81.6    60.8  -20.8
48 SLU   18 30,357 1,686 3,000 56.2    50.2   -6.0
49 Prn   17 27,799 1,635 2,100 77.9    76.2   -1.7
55 Brn   13 12,348  950 2,495 38.1    34.5   -3.6


Edit: there are 2018 numbers too.  I have added them to the right.

I've added the delta, too, just FYI.  If the idea was to boost attendance, um...

marty

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Jim HylaTrue, but a little investigation would show that this was a decision made by the ECAC for all schools. It wasn't something that CU decided on its own.

Was this part of a press release by the league? Where did this very meaningful investigative effort lead you to this information?

Just by talking to a number of people at the rink. In particular Sue Detzer & Anne Dykes. Some schools complained that visiting teams didn't get the unsold tickets back to the home school in time for them to be sold to their fans. So they decided that visiting fans would have to buy their tickets from the home school.

Some could be purchased online and designating specific seats, but no mention of a visiting fan section. Others allowed phone purchase and you could ask for the visiting section.

All together a poor experience, but not one that CU initiated by themselves. Hopefully it will change next year.

Thanks, Jim.

It really did p-ss A LOT of people off.  I wouldn't be surprised if Cornell wasn't one of the schools complaining about receiving their allotment back.  To be blunt, where else would it matter?  Who else sells out?

Here is attendance in 2017.



Rank Team  Dates Total  Average Capacity Cap. %
20 Cor   16 62,530 3,908 4,267 91.6
23 Qpc   18 56,373 3,132 3,086 101.5
24 Yal   16 49,446 3,090 3,486 88.7
25 RPI   16 49,389 3,087 5,217 59.2
29 Clk   18 48,759 2,709 3,000 90.3
32 Drt   15 38,424 2,562 4,500 56.9
34 Hvd   15 36,991 2,466 3,095 79.7
41 Uni   16 33,620 2,101 2,225 94.4
46 Cgt   16 29,020 1,814 2,222 81.6
48 SLU   18 30,357 1,686 3,000 56.2
49 Prn   17 27,799 1,635 2,100 77.9
55 Brn   13 12,348  950 2,495 38.1

Cornell had issues itself (last year) in that the tickets that they express mailed to Lake Placid didn't get to the Will Call window in time for Friday's game.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."