Football: Columbia to end the season instead of Penn?

[Swampy]

harking back to the days when student-athletes were students first

Cough.  Uh, sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7PgnjEiMcA

Same year as this came out, by this guy.

In the fall of 1931, he characterized the college football program as a "semiprofessional racket". He was expelled in April 1932, but following student protests he was readmitted twenty days later. In the fall of 1932, he published King Football: The Vulgarization of the American College (1932), an exposé of commercialism in college football and an attack on higher education that accused United States schools of turning out "regimented lead soldiers of mediocrity". "To put forth winning football teams," he wrote, "alumni, faculty and trustees will lie, cheat and steal, unofficially."

That's the 1930s, and it's about that noted football factory Columbia.

Alright, I wrote that holding my breath and hoping I was right about the timing of monied corruption. But, for example, I am familiar with the CCNY point-shaving scandal of the early 1950s, so I am not so naive. While no doubt there was corruption before WWII, I do firmly believe that the advent of TV and expansion of mass consumption after the war brought it to new heights.

Last, but not least, there's this ad hominem observation, based on Harris's bio, that he was a commie, despite his testimony before the committee headed by the esteemed Sen. McCarthy of Wisconsin. Why should we believe anything a red like that wrote? MAGA ::stupid::

[billhoward]

This is about getting Princeton a better final game. As noted above, Cornell is collateral damage. Had we been a more serious team the last, ah, sixty years, keeping it the Penn-Cornell finale made perfect sense.

I'd vote for H-Y-P round robin where 2 of these 3 have the final game and the third gets stuck with Penn or Columbia. Not that this would ever happen.

Al Bagnoli is 64 and won't last forever at Columbia. They'll slip back to their sub-.500 ways.

We could have snared Bagnoli away from Union when Maxie Baughan suddenly departed after the 1989 season; a year later, Penn recruited him. But that's hindsight to know that he would continue to be a great coach at a higher level.

At least the Cornell-at-Columbia football games fall in the year when Cornell-BU isn't at the Garden but there is a Cornell-somebody else hockey game. That means big Cornell sports events in NYC in back to back weeks.

[CU2007]

That means big Cornell sports events in NYC in back to back weeks.

What is the turnout like when Cornell plays at Columbia in Football? Basketball? Obviously a big NYC alumni base.

[ugarte]

That means big Cornell sports events in NYC in back to back weeks.

What is the turnout like when Cornell plays at Columbia in Football? Basketball? Obviously a big NYC alumni base.

Football turnout is decent - though like at Cornell, the stadium far outstrips interest.

Levien has been full for basketball recently.

[Chris H82]

For the whole football factory thing, we had a history of playing both sides of it back in the 20s.  My grandfather was the tackle/placekicker on the early 20s unbeaten powerhouse teams. They were invited to play in the 1923 Rose Bowl, but the university turned down the invitation because fall term finals were after the New Year break, and the team wouldn't have made it back to Ithaca in time.
On the other hand, I read a story somewhere talking about one of the running backs on that team showing up in Ithaca and not being all that interested in academics, yet somehow making it through 4 years and graduating.  So we're not as snow-white pure as we might like to think.