What is your definition of a Successful Season

Started by Towerroad, September 24, 2013, 03:31:44 PM

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Rosey

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Quote from: rediceThey got as far as their talent could take them.
Just so the point is not lost in the hand-wringing over the early end to Cornell's season, I will again point out that there is no evidence that a talent deficit has anything to do with it. Cornell has a hockey skill deficit, and the available evidence points not to talent as a cause but to environment.

Repeating the talent gap mantra over and over will not make it true, even if it makes you feel better.

Despite your condescending & snarky statement, Kyle, it has nothing do with making me feel better.   It is my opinion, based on lot experience iwith the college game.    I don't project myself as an expert.   I'll leave that to you...   I will just say that my opinion is no less valid than yours.    I don't see the value in you countering my opinion every time I mention it.    My most recent statement was not directed at you.    It's just lame, Kyle........
I feel obliged to call it out when you post something as fact ("They got as far as their talent could take them" ) that isn't supported by the evidence, especially when an incorrect interpretation of the facts can have a profoundly negative effect on the program long-term. I'm not really interested in your opinion or comprehension, as you've made it perfectly clear you don't feel obligated to allow facts to dissuade you: I am, however, very interested in making clear to everyone else reading your post that what you are saying is not correct and is a clear, demonstrable misinterpretation of the situation.

Your statement is roughly equivalent to "I think it's awful that Joe Biden died in a plane crash last night." Yes, that's an opinion, but the basis of that opinion is a false statement. This is a clear illustration of why not all opinions are equally valid.

My opinion about Cornell's performance, unlike yours, has not yet had any evidence presented contradicting it.

I'm pretty sure that nothing that's said here is ever going to have an impact on anything.

At the very least, I sure hope that's the case.
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redice

Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: redice
Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: rediceThey got as far as their talent could take them.
Just so the point is not lost in the hand-wringing over the early end to Cornell's season, I will again point out that there is no evidence that a talent deficit has anything to do with it. Cornell has a hockey skill deficit, and the available evidence points not to talent as a cause but to environment.

Repeating the talent gap mantra over and over will not make it true, even if it makes you feel better.

Despite your condescending & snarky statement, Kyle, it has nothing do with making me feel better.   It is my opinion, based on lot experience iwith the college game.    I don't project myself as an expert.   I'll leave that to you...   I will just say that my opinion is no less valid than yours.    I don't see the value in you countering my opinion every time I mention it.    My most recent statement was not directed at you.    It's just lame, Kyle........
I feel obliged to call it out when you post something as fact ("They got as far as their talent could take them" ) that isn't supported by the evidence, especially when an incorrect interpretation of the facts can have a profoundly negative effect on the program long-term. I'm not really interested in your opinion or comprehension, as you've made it perfectly clear you don't feel obligated to allow facts to dissuade you: I am, however, very interested in making clear to everyone else reading your post that what you are saying is not correct and is a clear, demonstrable misinterpretation of the situation.

Your statement is roughly equivalent to "I think it's awful that Joe Biden died in a plane crash last night." Yes, that's an opinion, but the basis of that opinion is a false statement. This is a clear illustration of why not all opinions are equally valid.

My opinion about Cornell's performance, unlike yours, has not yet had any evidence presented contradicting it.

I notice your avatar shows you wearing sunglasses.    Perhaps, you not a sighted person.   For, if you were, you could WATCH the two teams play and see that Union is more talented than Cornell at this point in time.   When I typed: "They got as far as their talent could take them", that was indeed my opinion.    I made no claims to the contrary.   And, if you're not interested in my opinion, why does it bother you so much?   In fact, why, of all the people on this forum, do YOU have to be a dick about me sharing my opinion?    I'm not sharing my opinion in hopes that it will please or displease you, Kyle.

You have continually cited facts.   Frankly, I don't share your opinion of the relevancy of your, so called, facts.    But, they will, in your mind remain facts and the fact that I don't agree with your choices means that I ignore facts.   I admire your self-confidence, Kyle.   But, there are a great many people in this world who are confident and full of shit!

I am not going to continue this. Assholes like you like to argue.   I find it tedious.   So take your parting shot & have a good time with it.   I'm out.    Geez!!
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BearLover

I agree with redice that Kyle is a snarky asshole, and I agree with Kyle that Cornell has no talent deficit.

Trotsky

Long time before October, folks.  Pace yourselves.

Swampy

Quote from: TrotskyLong time before October, folks.  Pace yourselves.

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