Thank You

[Trotsky]

The team we are going to see next year is the one that scared the hell out of the #1 team in the country. Don't know if we'll win the ECACs but I think we're going back to the NCAA tournament. That's a good feeling going into the offseason.

This.

[cbuckser]

University of Michigan's season had a very similar trajectory to Cornell's. This Michigan Daily column by Matt Slovin about the Michigan team redeeming itself touches many of the same things we have discussed on this thread.

[Jim Hyla]

University of Michigan's season had a very similar trajectory to Cornell's. This Michigan Daily column by Matt Slovin about the Michigan team redeeming itself touches many of the same things we have discussed on this thread.

I like the writer's sign-off:

— Slovin's mom was pregnant with him when the NCAA Tournament streak began. He can be reached at mjslovin@umich.edu or on Twitter: @MattSlovin.

[BearLover]

Meh, their season was similar in that it was disappointing, but whereas Cornell was either good or very bad for long stretches, Michigan was consistently mediocre the entire season, before making a bigger push than Cornell at the end.  It's a good article, but really, Cornell got outshot in the Q series like 150-50 and lost some of its best players to graduation, so no, I'm not confident in next season like a Michigan fan could rightfully be confident in Michigan.

[Trotsky]

Meh, their season was similar in that it was disappointing, but whereas Cornell was either good or very bad for long stretches, Michigan was consistently mediocre the entire season, before making a bigger push than Cornell at the end.  It's a good article, but really, Cornell got outshot in the Q series like 150-50 and lost some of its best players to graduation, so no, I'm not confident in next season like a Michigan fan could rightfully be confident in Michigan.

Worst "thank you" ever.  ;-)

[cbuckser]

Meh, their season was similar in that it was disappointing, but whereas Cornell was either good or very bad for long stretches, Michigan was consistently mediocre the entire season, before making a bigger push than Cornell at the end.  It's a good article, but really, Cornell got outshot in the Q series like 150-50 and lost some of its best players to graduation, so no, I'm not confident in next season like a Michigan fan could rightfully be confident in Michigan.

I respectfully disagree. From November 10, 2012 through January 26, 2013, Michigan went 4-13-1. Before losing to Notre Dame to end the season, Michigan went 8-0-1 down the stretch.

From December 29, 2012 through February 9, 2013, Cornell went 1-10. Before losing its last two games at Quinnipiac, Cornell went 7-1-1 down the stretch.

Those seasons are not identical, but they sure look similar to me. Here are two more parallels: Both teams finished a game under .500, and both teams lost one of their top players for half the season with nondisplaced cervical spine fractures.

Although both teams had two seniors among their top point scorers, I'll grant you that Cornell was more dependent on seniors than Michigan. On the other hand, Jon Merrill is a strong candidate to go pro and, though I anticipate that he will stay in school, Jacob Trouba is also considering signing a professional contract.

Michigan is bringing in more blue chippers (including Nolan deJong) in the fall than Cornell, but that is par for the course. Michigan also has better odds of making the NCAA Tournament twelve months from now than Cornell; however, that has been the case for the overwhelming majority of the last 23 years.

[BearLover]

Meh, their season was similar in that it was disappointing, but whereas Cornell was either good or very bad for long stretches, Michigan was consistently mediocre the entire season, before making a bigger push than Cornell at the end.  It's a good article, but really, Cornell got outshot in the Q series like 150-50 and lost some of its best players to graduation, so no, I'm not confident in next season like a Michigan fan could rightfully be confident in Michigan.

I respectfully disagree. From November 10, 2012 through January 26, 2013, Michigan went 4-13-1. Before losing to Notre Dame to end the season, Michigan went 8-0-1 down the stretch.

From December 29, 2012 through February 9, 2013, Cornell went 1-10. Before losing its last two games at Quinnipiac, Cornell went 7-1-1 down the stretch.

Those seasons are not identical, but they sure look similar to me. Here are two more parallels: Both teams finished a game under .500, and both teams lost one of their top players for half the season with nondisplaced cervical spine fractures.

Although both teams had two seniors among their top point scorers, I'll grant you that Cornell was more dependent on seniors than Michigan. On the other hand, Jon Merrill is a strong candidate to go pro and, though I anticipate that he will stay in school, Jacob Trouba is also considering signing a professional contract.

Michigan is bringing in more blue chippers (including Nolan deJong) in the fall than Cornell, but that is par for the course. Michigan also has better odds of making the NCAA Tournament twelve months from now than Cornell; however, that has been the case for the overwhelming majority of the last 23 years.

Oh, I don't ever expect Cornell to be better than Michigan really, at least not talent-wise (although it should be a bit closer due to Cornell players staying longer).  All I was saying is that this season as a whole and the loss of some of the team's best players and a depleted entering freshman class do not give me great hope going into next season.  The rising seniors simply haven't been very good aside from Iles, and while the rising juniors are one of the best classes since at least '10 and probably beyond that, will they even be back for 1-2 more years?

[Trotsky]

Meh, their season was similar in that it was disappointing, but whereas Cornell was either good or very bad for long stretches, Michigan was consistently mediocre the entire season, before making a bigger push than Cornell at the end.  It's a good article, but really, Cornell got outshot in the Q series like 150-50 and lost some of its best players to graduation, so no, I'm not confident in next season like a Michigan fan could rightfully be confident in Michigan.

I respectfully disagree. From November 10, 2012 through January 26, 2013, Michigan went 4-13-1. Before losing to Notre Dame to end the season, Michigan went 8-0-1 down the stretch.

From December 29, 2012 through February 9, 2013, Cornell went 1-10. Before losing its last two games at Quinnipiac, Cornell went 7-1-1 down the stretch.

Those seasons are not identical, but they sure look similar to me. Here are two more parallels: Both teams finished a game under .500, and both teams lost one of their top players for half the season with nondisplaced cervical spine fractures.

Although both teams had two seniors among their top point scorers, I'll grant you that Cornell was more dependent on seniors than Michigan. On the other hand, Jon Merrill is a strong candidate to go pro and, though I anticipate that he will stay in school, Jacob Trouba is also considering signing a professional contract.

Michigan is bringing in more blue chippers (including Nolan deJong) in the fall than Cornell, but that is par for the course. Michigan also has better odds of making the NCAA Tournament twelve months from now than Cornell; however, that has been the case for the overwhelming majority of the last 23 years.

Oh, I don't ever expect Cornell to be better than Michigan really, at least not talent-wise (although it should be a bit closer due to Cornell players staying longer).  All I was saying is that this season as a whole and the loss of some of the team's best players and a depleted entering freshman class do not give me great hope going into next season.  The rising seniors simply haven't been very good aside from Iles, and while the rising juniors are one of the best classes since at least '10 and probably beyond that, will they even be back for 1-2 more years?

Ferlin may be a flight risk; I don't see any reason to be anxious about the others.  They are a very good group, but none of them are off the charts.

[Jim Hyla]

Meh, their season was similar in that it was disappointing, but whereas Cornell was either good or very bad for long stretches, Michigan was consistently mediocre the entire season, before making a bigger push than Cornell at the end.  It's a good article, but really, Cornell got outshot in the Q series like 150-50 and lost some of its best players to graduation, so no, I'm not confident in next season like a Michigan fan could rightfully be confident in Michigan.

I respectfully disagree. From November 10, 2012 through January 26, 2013, Michigan went 4-13-1. Before losing to Notre Dame to end the season, Michigan went 8-0-1 down the stretch.

From December 29, 2012 through February 9, 2013, Cornell went 1-10. Before losing its last two games at Quinnipiac, Cornell went 7-1-1 down the stretch.

Those seasons are not identical, but they sure look similar to me. Here are two more parallels: Both teams finished a game under .500, and both teams lost one of their top players for half the season with nondisplaced cervical spine fractures.

Although both teams had two seniors among their top point scorers, I'll grant you that Cornell was more dependent on seniors than Michigan. On the other hand, Jon Merrill is a strong candidate to go pro and, though I anticipate that he will stay in school, Jacob Trouba is also considering signing a professional contract.

Michigan is bringing in more blue chippers (including Nolan deJong) in the fall than Cornell, but that is par for the course. Michigan also has better odds of making the NCAA Tournament twelve months from now than Cornell; however, that has been the case for the overwhelming majority of the last 23 years.

Oops, Merrill leaves and Trouba not far behind.

[cbuckser]

Meh, their season was similar in that it was disappointing, but whereas Cornell was either good or very bad for long stretches, Michigan was consistently mediocre the entire season, before making a bigger push than Cornell at the end.  It's a good article, but really, Cornell got outshot in the Q series like 150-50 and lost some of its best players to graduation, so no, I'm not confident in next season like a Michigan fan could rightfully be confident in Michigan.

I respectfully disagree. From November 10, 2012 through January 26, 2013, Michigan went 4-13-1. Before losing to Notre Dame to end the season, Michigan went 8-0-1 down the stretch.

From December 29, 2012 through February 9, 2013, Cornell went 1-10. Before losing its last two games at Quinnipiac, Cornell went 7-1-1 down the stretch.

Those seasons are not identical, but they sure look similar to me. Here are two more parallels: Both teams finished a game under .500, and both teams lost one of their top players for half the season with nondisplaced cervical spine fractures.

Although both teams had two seniors among their top point scorers, I'll grant you that Cornell was more dependent on seniors than Michigan. On the other hand, Jon Merrill is a strong candidate to go pro and, though I anticipate that he will stay in school, Jacob Trouba is also considering signing a professional contract.

Michigan is bringing in more blue chippers (including Nolan deJong) in the fall than Cornell, but that is par for the course. Michigan also has better odds of making the NCAA Tournament twelve months from now than Cornell; however, that has been the case for the overwhelming majority of the last 23 years.

Oops, Merrill leaves and Trouba not far behind.

My Jacob Trouba prediction is looking shaky now.

Nevertheless, I'll make more predictions. No Cornell player from the Class of 2015 will go pro this summer, and their consistent offensive production will be a big factor toward the team having a successful season.

[BearLover]

I would also guess no one leaves after this season.  Lowry is also a possibility, though.  The year after next I'd be surprised if 100% of the drafted players are back.