Niagara Saturday Postgame

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Chris '03][quote Jacob '06][quote marty][quote Trotsky][quote marty]Doesn't this help us a little in the pairwise stats?[/quote]Currently second.[/quote]

Well Screw BU, but that didn't really answer my question.  Does our split wih N. Dak. and their sweep of the Goofers help us in the pairwise?[/quote]

Well, it flipped our COP with minnesota, and I imagine it raised our RPI since it raised our opponents winning percentage.[/quote]

It's a complicated question. It depends. On the one hand we can pull hard for NoDak (and SCSU, Niagara, and UMass) to win as much as possible. This improves Cornell's RPI and thus, PWR. However, if NoDak cements itself in the top 25 of RPI, then the split in grand forks includes a TUC loss (and win) on Cornell's record. Right now that's no big deal since they don't have 10 TUC games played yet. It may matter down the line in the TUC comparison. There's a chance Cornell will be right on the 10 game line at season's end and whether NoDak is good enough to be t-25 determines whether CU's TUC record is a factor or not. Whether we want it to be a factor is largely a function of how Cornell does against the remaining TUCs on the schedule (likely three or all of: DC, QU, YU(2), PU). At this point I think it's too early to get too concerned with what NoDak is doing (in theory an RPI rank of 26 and success vs. conference TUCs would be ideal) because we don't know whether an additional tuc win and loss will be good or bad. In this particular case though, I think Minnesota losing is always good regardless of who it's against. Cornell's result with NoDak is largely irrelevant to that.

I get the sense I'm over thinking this though...[/quote]
Yes, you're overthinking it.  But I agree with everything you've overthought.:-P

The announcers on today's wrestling matches are now, postmatch, attempting to understand RPI.  Pretty funny.

[cbuckser]

I don't recommend expending any energy rooting for North Dakota not to be a TUC.  I think the Fighting Sioux are too good not to finish in the top 25 in RPI.

[KeithK]

[quote cbuckser]I don't recommend expending any energy rooting for North Dakota not to be a TUC.  I think the Fighting Sioux are too good not to finish in the top 25 in RPI.[/quote]I agree.  While it's possible we could get hurt by that TUC loss, it's still just one loss out of 10+ games.  If Cornell takes care of business against Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth and Quinnipiac then it shouldn't matter that much.  Not saying that we will or should run the table against the ECAC but it's not worth stressing too much about that one loss possibly being a TUC loss.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

[quote KeithK][quote cbuckser]I don't recommend expending any energy rooting for North Dakota not to be a TUC.  I think the Fighting Sioux are too good not to finish in the top 25 in RPI.[/quote]I agree.  While it's possible we could get hurt by that TUC loss, it's still just one loss out of 10+ games.  If Cornell takes care of business against Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth and Quinnipiac then it shouldn't matter that much.  Not saying that we will or should run the table against the ECAC but it's not worth stressing too much about that one loss possibly being a TUC loss.[/quote]

If you look at the top 10 in the PWR, most have at least three TUC losses - Princeton has 2, and we have 1.  The only other TUC with only 1 TUC loss is Yale.  Mind you, we're not going to have 10 TUC games until the end of the regular season at the earliest, and quite possibly not until after the tournament in Albany.

Frankly, I think the common opponent games are more critical, since there are fewer of them, and a loss will put a big dent in that rating.