the PWR

Started by upperdeck, March 15, 2008, 09:34:48 PM

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KeithK

[quote Beeeej]If the WCHA feels the regular season champion is more deserving by virtue of that reasoning, they can decide at the beginning of the season that the regular season champion will get the autobid.  They haven't.
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I don't think the fact that the bid is given to the tournament champion implies they think the tournament winner is more deserving.  If the tournament winner didn't get a bid the tournament would mean much, much less.   It would be more like a post-season exhibition.  Since the tournaments make money for the leagues there's a great incentive to award the autobid to the winner.

They might also think that the tourney winner is most deserving.  But I think that would be secondary.

Beeeej

[quote KeithK][quote Beeeej]If the WCHA feels the regular season champion is more deserving by virtue of that reasoning, they can decide at the beginning of the season that the regular season champion will get the autobid.  They haven't.
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I don't think the fact that the bid is given to the tournament champion implies they think the tournament winner is more deserving.  If the tournament winner didn't get a bid the tournament would mean much, much less.   It would be more like a post-season exhibition.  Since the tournaments make money for the leagues there's a great incentive to award the autobid to the winner.

They might also think that the tourney winner is most deserving.  But I think that would be secondary.[/quote]

I didn't say they did, now did I?  :-)
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

ugarte

[quote Beeeej][quote KeithK][quote Beeeej]If the WCHA feels the regular season champion is more deserving by virtue of that reasoning, they can decide at the beginning of the season that the regular season champion will get the autobid.  They haven't.
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I don't think the fact that the bid is given to the tournament champion implies they think the tournament winner is more deserving.  If the tournament winner didn't get a bid the tournament would mean much, much less.   It would be more like a post-season exhibition.  Since the tournaments make money for the leagues there's a great incentive to award the autobid to the winner.

They might also think that the tourney winner is most deserving.  But I think that would be secondary.[/quote]

I didn't say they did, pal.[/quote]
FYP.

Al DeFlorio

[quote PAthologicalLynah][Also, that whole "I never said anything about Cornell" is bunk.  If Cornell lost to D last weekend, you'd still be complaining about Minn.-Duluth?  Yeah, right.[/quote]
Crap like this is why I'm "hostile."  My point was that a sub-.500 team--any team; who cares about UMD--should not be invited to play for a national championship, and I "complained" about nothing.  Disagreeing with that is anyone's right, but to write uncalled-for, snotty garbage like that quoted above based on some bizarre assumption does make me "hostile."  

Sorry if you don't like it, Charles.  You're likely the last one on this planet who should call someone else "hostile."
Al DeFlorio '65

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ugarte

[quote Al DeFlorio]Sorry if you don't like it, Charles.  You're likely the last one on this planet who should call someone else "hostile."[/quote]
Second to last, by my math.

KeithK

[quote ugarte][quote Al DeFlorio]Sorry if you don't like it, Charles.  You're likely the last one on this planet who should call someone else "hostile."[/quote]
Second to last, by my math.[/quote]
Jerk.

RichH

[quote PAthologicalLynah]Also, that whole "I never said anything about Cornell" is bunk.  If Cornell lost to D last weekend, you'd still be complaining about Minn.-Duluth?  Yeah, right.[/quote]

To be fair to Al, yes, I think he would.  One of the things I like about this forum is the win-or-lose presence of many of the regulars.  Sure, this place empties out quite a bit after the final game of the season, but there's a pretty decent group here that sticks around and cares about the national scene (and trebuchets.)  Al is one of them.  He can be just as grumpy post-season towards other teams as he is in mid-season.  :-)

RichH

[quote KeithK][quote ugarte][quote Al DeFlorio]Sorry if you don't like it, Charles.  You're likely the last one on this planet who should call someone else "hostile."[/quote]
Second to last, by my math.[/quote]
Jerk.[/quote]

Typical. ::rolleyes::

jtwcornell91

[quote ugarte][quote Al DeFlorio]Sorry if you don't like it, Charles.  You're likely the last one on this planet who should call someone else "hostile."[/quote]
Second to last, by my math.[/quote]

Actually, I'd think BRA would be particularly qualified to speak about hostility...

Rita

It looks like UM-Duluth is out of the NC$$ picture, but it has been replaced by Wisconsin. According to Adam Wodon's article on CHN, the Badgers could get in to the tourney with a sub .500 record, and even better, home ice due to being a regional host.

"13-14. Minnesota State, Wisconsin

In all the scenarios I can come up with, the Mavericks stay ahead of Wisconsin. So if Notre Dame stays put, that means Wisconsin is out. Minnesota State would only be bumped out if BU or Vermont wins Hockey East, and one of them will be in the final, so it's possible.

But both Wisconsin and MSU can still get in, putting seven WCHA teams in the tournament, including one that would be under .500 (Wisconsin). The committee confirmed in a conference call today that, if Wisconsin qualifies with a sub-.500 record, it will still get in the tournament. All Wisconsin needs is two Notre Dame losses and a couple of other bounces.

This would throw things into upheavel, with Wisconsin needing to host its regional. Miami or Michigan would go to Madison if they are both No. 1 seeds, but if two WCHA teams are No. 1 seeds, it makes things really problematic."


If this does happen, will the NC$$ hockey committee come up with a "Wisconsin Rule" that states that unless you win your conference's tourney/autobid, no team with an under 500 record can be eligible for an at large bid.? This seems like a "no-brainer" to me, but .... ::rolleyes::