Cornell 2 @ Quinnipiac 5 Post Game Thread

[Trotsky]

[quote calgARI '07]Cornell has been a lot better than I thought they'd be in their first eight games but I sitll think they have the potential be far better.  I think they'll stay in the top four and have a better chance than I originally thought to finish first.[/quote]

Schafer seems to have achieved critical mass for the program.  This is the second time in the last 4 years (Fall '03, Fall '06) he lost a staggering amount of talent without the team cratering.  Every instinct from a quarter-century of watching Cornell hockey told me this was a rebuilding year, but it looks more every weekend like it could be far more than that.  If they can string a few wins together, they will be that much more confident heading to FL.

[bandrews37]

First off, not sure if you're aware of it, but that's not their official athletics site. They may link to it, but that's not the CSTV site, so I'm sure if anyone gave a rat's ass about Quinnipiac, CSTV would shut them down in a second - it's happened before at other CSTV schools. Secondly, not sure if you want to check out "Me's Ice Hockey vs. Cornell" photos... Finally, that POS school has half the athletic teams Cornell does. I think they're doing a fine enough job given the few people working and the large number of sports.

Plus, Bill, I'm shocked you're not bitching about them not having live video of the games. I mean, come on, EVERYONE is offering free live video, right? It's just Cornell that's holding you back, isn't it?

[bandrews37]

Umm, not sure where you're getting your information, but it's wrong (gee, why am I not shocked?). Milo was a healthy scratch on Saturday. That was a planned move to play Scali on Saturday night, barring injury to another player.

[calgARI '07]

[quote bandrews37]Umm, not sure where you're getting your information, but it's wrong (gee, why am I not shocked?). Milo was a healthy scratch on Saturday. That was a planned move to play Scali on Saturday night, barring injury to another player.[/quote]

Not correct.  Milo was hurt Friday.  Maybe it was planned that Scali would play Saturday night, but Milo was by no means healthy.

[billhoward]

Comments were more like a celebrity roast or retirement speech. Before you say nice things about the guy, you make fun of the guy. Quinnipiac (we're forgetting to call them the Fighting Deer Ticks) appears to have better fan support than say Princeton or Harvard or Brown, among our competitors.

[billhoward]

[quote bandrews37]First off, not sure if you're aware of it, but that's not their official athletics site. They may link to it, but that's not the CSTV site, so I'm sure if anyone gave a rat's ass about Quinnipiac, CSTV would shut them down in a second - it's happened before at other CSTV schools. Secondly, not sure if you want to check out "Me's Ice Hockey vs. Cornell" photos... Finally, that POS school has half the athletic teams Cornell does. I think they're doing a fine enough job given the few people working and the large number of sports.

Plus, Bill, I'm shocked you're not bitching about them not having live video of the games. I mean, come on, EVERYONE is offering free live video, right? It's just Cornell that's holding you back, isn't it?[/quote]
Photos linked by the site, easily accessible from the site, with the school mascot/logo on them ... how close do you want them to be to official photos? As for allegedly shutting down CSTV-hosted websites because they, gasp, provide more sports informaiton, such as photos, see the discussions of recent days about Cornell's quality of site and the note that Cornell signed off on the contract, so the fault is not all that of CSTV if the site is poor. Adults bear some responsibility for the juveniles the associate with.

I'm not sure I follow the argument that a school with half as many sports has an easier time doing a good job publicizing them. The bigger school hires more people (maybe not as many as needed) and gets the job done. Princeton is half or a third Cornell's size with about as many sports and does a pretty good job on its site, including some really fascinating profiles of current and former students, and not just the puff pieces.

Good point about why Q'pac doesn't have a video feed, even if you meant it sarcastically. At some point, it's going to be a necessity because it's cheap to implement, you probably have to videotape the game anyhow for scouting/coaching purposes, it's cheap to overlay the radio feed ... and if you don't do it, you annoy your distant alumni and parents who can't make the game. Assuming a coaching video would be more wide-angle than viewers might want, your cost is, what: one student with one video camera on a tripod, and the Internet feed which is, what, free, plus rights to the radio, which might be free if it's a student station or if you convince the station they're getting more exposure for their advertising.

[dsr11]

I don't follow CU Hockey nearly as closely as I used to, but I did get to the QU game this past weekend.  My thoughts?  Davenport did not play well.   In fact, he was outright awful.  Every shot, he was always looking behind him, like he knew the puck was going to get by.  Now, I know the lighting was dimmer, the ceiling was silver, but those are just excuses.  He needs more confidence.  He doesn't need to look behind him on EVERY save attempt.  If it gets by him once in a while, that's life, it's going to happen.  But don't expect it to happen on every shot.

Also, for someone who posted that CU was unquestionably the better team vs. QU, what game were you watching?  For the first period, yes, Cornell was a better team.  But for the last 40 mins, Cornell was outskated, outhit, and generally outplayed.  You can make excuses all day about the officiating, the rink, Cornell being tired...it doesn't matter.  On Saturday night, Cornell just got outplayed, and they lost. In previous years, I remember when we were the team outskating and outhitting teams, but that certainly wasn't the case against QU.  

I'm not saying the team is bad this year, but come on guys, we lost a game to a better team.  There is no need to sugar coat everything.

[Beeeej]

[quote billhoward]Comments were more like a celebrity roast or retirement speech. Before you say nice things about the guy, you make fun of the guy. Quinnipiac (we're forgetting to call them the Fighting Deer Ticks) appears to have better fan support than say Princeton or Harvard or Brown, among our competitors.[/quote]

I know I'm going out on a limb here, so correct me if I'm wrong, but... I'm reasonably certain that the part of the roast where you make fun of the guy is supposed to be not just insulting, but - well, also funny.

[CM cWo 44]

[quote bandrews37]Umm, not sure where you're getting your information, but it's wrong (gee, why am I not shocked?). Milo was a healthy scratch on Saturday. That was a planned move to play Scali on Saturday night, barring injury to another player.[/quote]

I was at both games and can confirm the Milo injury. Scali skated well, but didn't really stand out in his short ice time. He also took a pretty undiciplined penalty late in the first.

Furthermore, you can curb the snide sarcasm with those "ums" and "gees". A lineup change may or may not have been planned, but the Milo injury did occur. And unless you're on the coaching staff, I don't know how you could postulate that your assessment of the situation is in any way reliable. There's no reason for anyone here to make up an injury, and even less of a reason for that kind of arrogant, defamotory reaction.

[JasonN95]

[quote dsr11]I don't follow CU Hockey nearly as closely as I used to, but I did get to the QU game this past weekend.  My thoughts?  Davenport did not play well.   In fact, he was outright awful.  Every shot, he was always looking behind him, like he knew the puck was going to get by.  Now, I know the lighting was dimmer, the ceiling was silver, but those are just excuses.  He needs more confidence.  He doesn't need to look behind him on EVERY save attempt.  If it gets by him once in a while, that's life, it's going to happen.  But don't expect it to happen on every shot.
[/quote]

How is looking behind him a measure of how well he plays? A save is a save regardless of what the goalie does after the fact. If Davenport doesn't want to take it for granted that the puck he stopped is in his equipment and looks back to make sure it's not trickling into the net, I've no problem with that. I used to play goal and if after a shot I couldn't see or feel the puck, I was scanning for it, including behind me.

[cth95]

All I see is that he has his knee lifters very loose so they are not tight up against his leg like the calf protectors.  The knee lifters allow the goalie to drop onto the sides of his knees when going into the butterfly.  The number of them (anywhere from 1 to 4 are stacked) is based on personal preference, but. generally, more lifters makes it easier to reach the legs out further and more squarely when in the butterfly.  Bud is wearing Itech Prodigy 11.8's by the look of them, so feel free to go to the Itech website under the goalie section to see pictures of all sides of the pads.

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