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They'll be back again in 2026: https://www.spenglercup.ch/en/news/us-collegiate-selects-return-spengler-cup

No Team Canada, which is unusual for the Spengler Cup, but it will feature Adler Mannheim, whom Lance Nethery coached to three straight German titles back in the 90s, although he won the Spengler Cup itself in 1999 with the Kölner Haie, the season after he left Mannheim.

Quote from: 617BigRed on April 26, 2026, 11:04:04 AMWhat happened to the 26-27 schedule post? Need...

I hope I didn't accidentally delete it while nuking Russian spam bot posts.  (I'm almost certain I didn't, but Beeeej and I theoretically have that power.)

Quote from: Trotsky on April 22, 2026, 01:29:44 PM

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 21, 2026, 03:50:26 PMIt says that only 8 schools are available.  The seven Big 10 schools and who else?

I had a nice talk with them on email.  They are based in the midwest.

Michigan State, Army, Wisconsin, Penn State, Illinois, Ohio State, Minnesota, and Michigan.


Here is what I sent them:

QuoteA suggestion for expanding your reach.  There are several other schools with large hockey fan alumni groups and/or the level of disposable income required for the product.  Roughly in order of sales opportunity:

North Dakota
Boston University
Boston College
Cornell
Notre Dame
Maine
New Hampshire
Harvard
Yale
Arizona State
Quinnipiac
Princeton
Dartmouth

Getting the product in front of those fans by advertising on sites with comprehensive visibility to those customer bases is essential too: USCHO, CHN, the individual conferences, Ivy-adjacent up-market sites, etc.

You might want to talk to the ADs/SIDs of the schools themselves — many have co-located their rink inside of/near a entertainment center that includes hockey-related arcade games.  You'd fit in well and those entities won't blink at the price.

Good luck with your products! I hope to see them crop up everywhere from Lake Placid to Tempe.

If I'm running a bar in Lake Placid, I want the teams to be Clarkson and St. Lawrence.

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Quote from: Trotsky on April 09, 2026, 05:02:36 PMCoverage still has not kicked in on streaming.

My mistake.  It's on The Deuce, I have ESPN+, so I'm locked out.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mets it is.

When I was downgrading my Disney+ bundle, I noticed there were packages that included full ESPN access for an extra $20/month.  So at least one doesn't need to get fake cable, but still, fuck that.

So buy it for a month?

If we had still been playing, I probably would have, but I don't want to shell out $20 just to watch the Battle of the Western Power Conferences.

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Quote from: stereax on April 11, 2026, 06:01:18 PMWisconsin opens the scoring. Just goes straight through Hicks.

Have to shoot high on him.

Should also note that while I love that Buccigross uses his platform to promote cawlidge hawkey, he is an idiot.

Buccigross promotes Buccigross.

Quote from: Trotsky on April 09, 2026, 05:02:36 PMCoverage still has not kicked in on streaming.

My mistake.  It's on The Deuce, I have ESPN+, so I'm locked out.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mets it is.

When I was downgrading my Disney+ bundle, I noticed there were packages that included full ESPN access for an extra $20/month.  So at least one doesn't need to get fake cable, but still, fuck that.

Quote from: adamw on March 31, 2026, 07:31:34 PM

Quote from: BearLover on March 31, 2026, 12:38:04 PMI looked at every draft pick of the Schafer era and noted their draft year, draft round, and whether they left early. I also indicated whether they had a strong junior season (i.e. there would have been strong desire for their drafting team to sign them after their junior year).

PLAYER, DRAFT YEAR, DRAFT ROUND, LEFT EARLY? STRONG JUNIOR YEAR?

• Jean-Marc Pelletier, 1997, 2nd round, left after 2 seasons, N/A [didn't get much playing time]
• Matt Underhill, 1999, 6th round, did not leave early, Yes (.928 sv%)
• Stephen Baby, 1999, 7th round, did not leave early, Yes (point per game)
• Douglas Murray, 1999, 8th round, did not leave early, Yes (11 goals and point per game as a defenseman)
• Brian Mcmeekin, 1999, 9th round, did not leave early, No
• Matt Mcrae, 2000, 5th round, did not leave early, No
• Mark Mcrae, 2000, 9th round, did not leave early, Yes (point per game as a defenseman)
• Mike Knoepfli, 2001, 9th round, did not leave early, Yes (24 points in 32 games as strong defensive forward)
• David LeNeveu, 2002, 2nd round, left after 2 seasons, N/A [.950 sv% year before he left]
• Dan Glover, 2002, 8th round, did not leave early, No
• Ryan O'Byrne, 2003, 3rd round, left after 3 seasons, Yes (7-6-13 as a defenseman, good at defending)
• Shane Hynes, 2003, 3rd round, left after 3 seasons, Yes (point per game)
• Byron Bitz, 2003, 4th round, did not leave early, Yes (almost a point per game and great defensive forward)
• Mark McCutcheon, 2003, 5th round, did not leave early, No
• Matt Moulson, 2003, 9th round, did not leave early, YES (dominant numbers, 22 goals)
• Ray Sawada, 2004, 2nd round, did not leave early, No (21 points in 32 games)
• John Gleed, 2004, 7th round, did not leave early, No
• Mitch Carefoot, 2005, 8th round, did not leave early, No
• Sasha Pokuluk, 2005, 1st round, left after 2 seasons, N/A [half a point per game as a big D]
• Colin Greening, 7th round, did not leave early, Yes (point per game)
• Tony Romano, 2006, 6th round, went to CHL after one season, N/A [had a good freshman year numbers-wise]
• Justin Krueger, 2006, 7th round, did not leave early, No
• Riley Nash, 2007, 1st round, left after three years, N/A [great college player][a 1st rounder staying 3 years I consider equivalent to a later round pick staying 4 years]
• Braden Birch, 2008, round 6, did not leave early, No
• Sean Collins, 2008, round 7, did not leave early, No
• Nick D'Agostino, 2008, round 7, did not leave early, Yes (8 goals, 20 points as a defenseman)
• Kirill Gotovets, 2009, round 7, did not leave early, No
• Brian Ferlin, 2011, round 4, left after 3 seasons, Yes (point per game)
• Joel Lowry, 2011, round 5, did not leave early, Yes (24 points in 32 games; also had a very good sophomore year)
• Reece Willcox, 2012, round 5, did not leave early, No
• John McCarron, 2012, round 6, did not leave early, Yes (24 points in 32 games)
• Joakim Ryan, 2012, round 7, did not leave early, Yes (8 goals, 24 points as a defenseman)
• Matt Buckles, 2013, round 4, did not leave early, No
• Beau Starrett, 2014, round 3, did not leave early, No
• Anthony Angello, 2014, round 5, left after 3 seasons, Yes (13-13-26 in 33 games)
• Jared Fiegl, 2014, round 7, did not leave early, No
• Dwyer Tschantz, 2014, round 7, did not leave early, No
• Misha Song, 2015, round 6, did not leave early, No
• Matt Cairns, 2016, round 4, did not leave early, No
• Morgan Barron, 2017, round 6, UNKNOWN, Yes (point per game) [Barron was forced to sign due to COVID.]
• Alex Green, 2018, round 4, did not leave early, Yes (7-9-16 in 29 games as a defenseman, defensive defenseman of the year) [Note: Green did sign during the canceled 2021 season, but confirmed on the Big Red Hockeycast that he would have returned for his senior year if not for COVID wiping out the season]
• Matthew Stienburg, 2019, round 3, did not leave early, Yes (point per game)
• Jack Malone, 2019, round 6, did not leave early, No
• Justin Ertel, 2021, round 3, left for CHL after one season, N/A
• Hank Kempf, 2021, round 7, did not leave early, No

I marked in bold the early departures.
I marked in red the players who had strong junior seasons.
I crossed out players who left early for another league besides the pros, or who we cannot say would have gone pro due to COVID knocking out the season.

Analysis:
Cornell had 46 draft picks under Schafer.
I have chosen to exclude Riley Nash from this analysis because I don't think it would be fair to categorize him as either an early departure or a four-year player. He obviously wasn't a four-year player, but keeping a first round pick three years is way better than a program would typically hope for.
Out of 42 draft picks excluding R. Nash and those crossed out, 7 left early. (16.67%)
Out of 18 players who had strong junior seasons, 4 left before their senior year. (22%) Adding LeNeveu to that total (given he had an incredible sophomore season), 5/19 left. (26%)

Conclusions:
Under Schafer, Cornell did an incredible job retaining drafted players through their senior seasons. 16.67% early departures among drafted players is very low. Even more impressive, Cornell retained a huge majority of players who had strong sophomore/junior seasons. In many of these cases, the drafted players ended up signing with their drafting teams anyway. See, e.g., Murray, Moulson, Ryan, Greening, Stienburg, Bitz. And in each of these cases, the player got NHL time. This indicates that in many cases, a player staying four years was not due to their team not wanting them but rather a result of that player desiring to return to Cornell.

It is no surprise that the last three Ivies to make the Frozen Four - Cornell in '03, Yale in '13, and Harvard in '17 - were loaded with seniors who could have gone pro after their junior seasons but chose to return to college.

Unfortunately, this postseason we've already seen two juniors jump to the pros. This includes Hoyt Stanley, who seems like a longshot to have any kind of NHL career. This is an unfortunate development and very atypical in Cornell Hockey history. Going forward, if Cornell wants to compete with more talented programs, it will be critical that our best players stick it out for four years, as they mostly did for the past 30 seasons.

unless you acknowledge that the world of the last 5 years is totally different than the one before (and getting moreso) - and make the analysis include the round the person was drafted in - this is completely useless. Is this going to be another case where you just insist that your humble, sober analysis is dead on, and just ignore the many other factors?  Penn State just lost 4 players today. You draft good players in this day and age, and it's a miracle if they make it past 3 years.

This fact makes the historical list useful, even if that's not the point BearLover was trying to make with it.  So even though the conversation degenerated from this point, I appreciate both the effort of compiling the list and the good form in sharing it.

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Quote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".

Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.

But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.

...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???

That's what baseball is for.

Hey, County Cricket starts next weekend!

Quote from: stereax on March 29, 2026, 06:14:32 PM

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Quote from: stereax on March 29, 2026, 05:53:34 PMThe "Screw BU" song turns into "Let's Go Blue".

Actually that's probably the original version.  I believe BU then adopted it as "Go BU", to which we responded "Screw BU".  Although, TBH, the BU version may have come first and Michigan adopted it.

We added the "XXX, too" at the ECAC tournament at the Boston Garden in 1981.

I have no idea about the history lol, I just know it as the Screw BU song.

(My BU friend, referring to this chant: You're obsessed with us for some reason and we don't even think about you more than every other year.)

Before we started playing them at MSG, they didn't even think about us that often.

Well, except for the two-game series we played at Walter Brown and Lynah in November of 2001 and 2002 when Schafer was building the Frozen Four team.  Those were awesome.

Quote from: stereax on March 29, 2026, 04:25:37 PM

I really like angels...

"Don't blink!  Don't even blink!  Blink and you're dead!"

Quote from: stereax on March 29, 2026, 04:25:37 PMNext up, I wanted to do something that I didn't manage to at LP - try some Stewart's ice cream. I housed part of it down with my face in the container at the bus stop... and had the rest this morning. Unfortunately my freezer liquified it but it was still DELICIOUS. 10/10 would recommend.

Having grown up in the Mid-Hudson Valley, I'm very sentimental about Stewart's.  A couple of Decembers ago I took the family there on the way home from snowshoeing in the Adirondacks, and they had a special called "July in Christmas" where you could get an ice cream cone or cup for a dollar or so.

Quote from: stereax on March 29, 2026, 04:25:37 PMDidn't know the Biergarten was right next to the diner that y'all recommended as well! Chose the Biergarten.





Maybe I'm just used to real Polish cooking, but another disappointment. Still pretty good - the onion rings were quite nice - but an entire sausage with sauerkraut and mustard shouldn't have tasted basically only of the mustard. I'm sure they numb down the kraut for American consumption, but it really wasn't that sour. And why is the wurst almost tasteless? The bread was nice - very light and flaky, almost croissant-like. But c'moooon.

I've found Sauerkraut in Germany to be less sour than what you get in the US, which makes the flavor less obnoxious.  But the bratwurst should be flavorful.  I'd blame the mustard.

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Quote from: BingaleeDingalee on March 27, 2026, 08:08:41 PMThank you to Casey Jones, the athletic department, hell, the whole team for embarrassing ourselves like this on a national stage.

You signed up to post this crap?

I, and I'm guessing most here, are proud of this team.

Unfortunately the new forum still doesn't have a mute/block feature.

Quote from: BearLover on March 27, 2026, 06:25:38 PMSeemed maybe worth challenging for a high stick since the risk/reward is so good (the only downside is a possible lost timeout).

Not to mention the potential momentum shift à la Buffalo 2003.

Quote from: BearLover on March 26, 2026, 08:15:52 PMTomorrow's game is on ESPN+ only.

Good, so we'll all get to watch it!

Quote from: Trotsky on March 26, 2026, 07:48:27 PMYup

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Quote from: Trotsky on March 26, 2026, 06:56:51 PMD tied late in the second, the YouTube solution has failed so I'm locked out again.  Boo.

The game is on ESPN+ if you can access that.

Does not appear on the menu.  Can you pass me the link?

It's on my plus when I search on hockey but once I click on the game, the app asks for cable sign in.

Yup, that's what I get too.  Boo.

The content providers have not figured out how to sever themselves from the cable crooks.

IIRC it worked with just ESPN+ last year.

Quote from: Trotsky on March 26, 2026, 05:47:14 PMApparently despite being subscribed to ESPN+ I do not have ESPNU.  Huh.

I thought ESPN was over this cable compulsion bullshit.