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Quote from: BearLover on October 08, 2026, 01:26:28 AM

Quote from: Trotsky on October 08, 2026, 12:02:27 AM

Quote from: BearLover on October 07, 2026, 08:44:28 PM

Quote from: Trotsky on October 07, 2026, 08:04:12 PMWithdraw from school.  That's a protest.  Say one thousand students withdraw in protest.  That will hurt.

If you want any institution to do something, you must either hurt it or have a credible threat of hurt.  Without Malcolm, Martin can't accomplish doodlysquat.

Why would someone ruin their own life by dropping out of school? And then do what? Sit at home all day?

-- The New York Times editorial page.

I thought they were trying to stop the wholesale rape of women.  Silly me.

You've lost the plot if you think this is a realistic thing for a person to do or would accomplish anything other than 30 minutes of attention.

One person doing it would accomplish nothing, but a mass movement could.  Just like one person not going to work is nothing compared to an organized strike.  The more important question is what would the demands be?  Would they be both well-defined and doable?

Quote from: chimpfood on October 07, 2026, 02:15:41 PMGood thread pull

I was surprised to see that I was the OP.

Dunno if this deserves its own thread:

https://www.ncaa.com/news/icehockey-women/article/2026-08-31/2027-womens-frozen-four-dates-changed

They've moved them from Friday/Sunday (March 19/21) to Sunday/Tuesday (March 21/23), ostensibly to allow them to be broadcast on ESPN's "linear channels" which I assume are the ones you have to pay extra for if you don't have cable. 

Quote from: stereax on July 29, 2026, 12:18:14 PMRemember that tournament Walsh was playing in last year?

US Collegiate Selects is back at the Spengler, and this time Coach Jones gets the opportunity to spend Christmas in Switzerland!

Likely enough Walsh is invited to the team again, even beyond us having a coach there.

Given how heavy the team was with Penn State players when "Ghee Gadovsky" was coaching last year, I suspect the makeup will shift with the change in coaching staff.

Quote from: Old Red on August 01, 2026, 10:51:16 PMGreat News! 

Over the Chirstmas [Winter] Break Coach Jones will be Assistant Coach for the U.S. Collegiate Selects in the Spangler Cup in Davos, Switzerland.  (Mike Sousa of UNH is Head Coach and Scott Sandelin of Minnesota Duluth is the other Assistant.)

At least I won't have to cheer for a team coached by Gadowsky this time.  You'll probably be able to watch all of the games on https://www.youtube.com/@SpenglerCupDavos/streams again.

Quote from: stereax on August 02, 2026, 02:17:41 AM

Quote from: Old Red on August 01, 2026, 10:51:16 PMGreat News! 

Over the Chirstmas [Winter] Break Coach Jones will be Assistant Coach for the U.S. Collegiate Selects in the Spangler Cup in Davos, Switzerland.  (Mike Sousa of UNH is Head Coach and Scott Sandelin of Minnesota Duluth is the other Assistant.)

That's a little tight for the early January Omaha game . . . but maybe promises adding UNH and UMD to the schedule.  I would love to see us play UMD in the Frozen Apple.

I recall Walsh's travelogue getting back from Davos for the Omaha series last year...

Assuming they make the finals (12/31), it's unlikely they travel home the same day unless they do it by a private jet.

Recall last year, our Omaha series was the 2nd and 3rd. This gave them the leeway to take off on the 1st for the intl flight and then the 2nd do the regional flights. Walsh got back to Ithaca at like, 3:30 pm the day of the Omaha series, as per McNally. I've heard it was even thornier than that 😅

Assuming similar, that they would fly most likely from Zurich on the 1st of January, I don't see a way Casey would get to Omaha for the Jan 1st game. Jan 2nd, sure, but Jan 1st we'll likely see an assistant take the reins.

Hey, Coach, if you're reading this, here are your best bets:

SkyTeam (Delta):
6:50 AM ZRH - KL 1916 - 8:25 AM AMS
10:25 AM AMS - DL 161 - 12:42 MSP
3:40 PM MSP - DL 3948 - 5:02 PM OMA

Star Alliance (United):
9:40 AM ZRH - UA12 - 12:40 PM ORD
3:50 PM ORD - UA 4662 - 5:47 PM OMA

WAIT HOLD ON



That solves that problem.

Did you also check the train schedules from Davos to Zurich for the early morning flight in case he has to go before the team bus? https://www.sbb.ch/en In any event, it seems like he'd have to stay in Zurich the night before to make it to the airport in time.

Quote from: stereax on June 20, 2026, 03:28:43 PM

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Quote from: jtwcornell91 on June 19, 2026, 09:53:16 PM

Quote from: Weder on June 18, 2026, 03:11:45 PM

Quote from: stereax on June 18, 2026, 02:33:47 PMBU at Lynah Dec 4 confirmed.

Wrong link  Did you mean this one?

Cool.  Maybe I'll try to drag the fam down for that one, since Union for senior night doesn't sound that exciting.

I don't know about anyone else but I don't go to the games to watch the opponent play.  Senior night is special regardless of the opponent or result for that matter.  Come to all of the games!!

(But if you only plan to come to one BU should be a good one!)

I think a lot of people are only able to come for say, 3 weekends a year - with that in perspective, it makes sense you might want to choose an opponent that's more entertaining, like BU.

Right.  That's why Clarkson for Senior Night was a double whammy last year.

Quote from: Weder on June 18, 2026, 03:11:45 PM

Quote from: stereax on June 18, 2026, 02:33:47 PMBU at Lynah Dec 4 confirmed.

Wrong link  Did you mean this one?

Cool.  Maybe I'll try to drag the fam down for that one, since Union for senior night doesn't sound that exciting.

They'll be back again in 2026: https://www.spenglercup.ch/en/news/us-collegiate-selects-return-spengler-cup

No Team Canada, which is unusual for the Spengler Cup, but it will feature Adler Mannheim, whom Lance Nethery coached to three straight German titles back in the 90s, although he won the Spengler Cup itself in 1999 with the Kölner Haie, the season after he left Mannheim.

Quote from: 617BigRed on April 26, 2026, 11:04:04 AMWhat happened to the 26-27 schedule post? Need...

I hope I didn't accidentally delete it while nuking Russian spam bot posts.  (I'm almost certain I didn't, but Beeeej and I theoretically have that power.)

Quote from: Trotsky on April 22, 2026, 01:29:44 PM

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 21, 2026, 03:50:26 PMIt says that only 8 schools are available.  The seven Big 10 schools and who else?

I had a nice talk with them on email.  They are based in the midwest.

Michigan State, Army, Wisconsin, Penn State, Illinois, Ohio State, Minnesota, and Michigan.


Here is what I sent them:

QuoteA suggestion for expanding your reach.  There are several other schools with large hockey fan alumni groups and/or the level of disposable income required for the product.  Roughly in order of sales opportunity:

North Dakota
Boston University
Boston College
Cornell
Notre Dame
Maine
New Hampshire
Harvard
Yale
Arizona State
Quinnipiac
Princeton
Dartmouth

Getting the product in front of those fans by advertising on sites with comprehensive visibility to those customer bases is essential too: USCHO, CHN, the individual conferences, Ivy-adjacent up-market sites, etc.

You might want to talk to the ADs/SIDs of the schools themselves — many have co-located their rink inside of/near a entertainment center that includes hockey-related arcade games.  You'd fit in well and those entities won't blink at the price.

Good luck with your products! I hope to see them crop up everywhere from Lake Placid to Tempe.

If I'm running a bar in Lake Placid, I want the teams to be Clarkson and St. Lawrence.

Quote from: marty on April 10, 2026, 10:10:47 PM

Quote from: jtwcornell91 on April 10, 2026, 06:56:02 PM

Quote from: Trotsky on April 09, 2026, 05:02:36 PMCoverage still has not kicked in on streaming.

My mistake.  It's on The Deuce, I have ESPN+, so I'm locked out.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mets it is.

When I was downgrading my Disney+ bundle, I noticed there were packages that included full ESPN access for an extra $20/month.  So at least one doesn't need to get fake cable, but still, fuck that.

So buy it for a month?

If we had still been playing, I probably would have, but I don't want to shell out $20 just to watch the Battle of the Western Power Conferences.

Quote from: arugula on April 11, 2026, 06:04:34 PM

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Quote from: stereax on April 11, 2026, 06:01:18 PMWisconsin opens the scoring. Just goes straight through Hicks.

Have to shoot high on him.

Should also note that while I love that Buccigross uses his platform to promote cawlidge hawkey, he is an idiot.

Buccigross promotes Buccigross.

Quote from: Trotsky on April 09, 2026, 05:02:36 PMCoverage still has not kicked in on streaming.

My mistake.  It's on The Deuce, I have ESPN+, so I'm locked out.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mets it is.

When I was downgrading my Disney+ bundle, I noticed there were packages that included full ESPN access for an extra $20/month.  So at least one doesn't need to get fake cable, but still, fuck that.

Quote from: adamw on March 31, 2026, 07:31:34 PM

Quote from: BearLover on March 31, 2026, 12:38:04 PMI looked at every draft pick of the Schafer era and noted their draft year, draft round, and whether they left early. I also indicated whether they had a strong junior season (i.e. there would have been strong desire for their drafting team to sign them after their junior year).

PLAYER, DRAFT YEAR, DRAFT ROUND, LEFT EARLY? STRONG JUNIOR YEAR?

• Jean-Marc Pelletier, 1997, 2nd round, left after 2 seasons, N/A [didn't get much playing time]
• Matt Underhill, 1999, 6th round, did not leave early, Yes (.928 sv%)
• Stephen Baby, 1999, 7th round, did not leave early, Yes (point per game)
• Douglas Murray, 1999, 8th round, did not leave early, Yes (11 goals and point per game as a defenseman)
• Brian Mcmeekin, 1999, 9th round, did not leave early, No
• Matt Mcrae, 2000, 5th round, did not leave early, No
• Mark Mcrae, 2000, 9th round, did not leave early, Yes (point per game as a defenseman)
• Mike Knoepfli, 2001, 9th round, did not leave early, Yes (24 points in 32 games as strong defensive forward)
• David LeNeveu, 2002, 2nd round, left after 2 seasons, N/A [.950 sv% year before he left]
• Dan Glover, 2002, 8th round, did not leave early, No
• Ryan O'Byrne, 2003, 3rd round, left after 3 seasons, Yes (7-6-13 as a defenseman, good at defending)
• Shane Hynes, 2003, 3rd round, left after 3 seasons, Yes (point per game)
• Byron Bitz, 2003, 4th round, did not leave early, Yes (almost a point per game and great defensive forward)
• Mark McCutcheon, 2003, 5th round, did not leave early, No
• Matt Moulson, 2003, 9th round, did not leave early, YES (dominant numbers, 22 goals)
• Ray Sawada, 2004, 2nd round, did not leave early, No (21 points in 32 games)
• John Gleed, 2004, 7th round, did not leave early, No
• Mitch Carefoot, 2005, 8th round, did not leave early, No
• Sasha Pokuluk, 2005, 1st round, left after 2 seasons, N/A [half a point per game as a big D]
• Colin Greening, 7th round, did not leave early, Yes (point per game)
• Tony Romano, 2006, 6th round, went to CHL after one season, N/A [had a good freshman year numbers-wise]
• Justin Krueger, 2006, 7th round, did not leave early, No
• Riley Nash, 2007, 1st round, left after three years, N/A [great college player][a 1st rounder staying 3 years I consider equivalent to a later round pick staying 4 years]
• Braden Birch, 2008, round 6, did not leave early, No
• Sean Collins, 2008, round 7, did not leave early, No
• Nick D'Agostino, 2008, round 7, did not leave early, Yes (8 goals, 20 points as a defenseman)
• Kirill Gotovets, 2009, round 7, did not leave early, No
• Brian Ferlin, 2011, round 4, left after 3 seasons, Yes (point per game)
• Joel Lowry, 2011, round 5, did not leave early, Yes (24 points in 32 games; also had a very good sophomore year)
• Reece Willcox, 2012, round 5, did not leave early, No
• John McCarron, 2012, round 6, did not leave early, Yes (24 points in 32 games)
• Joakim Ryan, 2012, round 7, did not leave early, Yes (8 goals, 24 points as a defenseman)
• Matt Buckles, 2013, round 4, did not leave early, No
• Beau Starrett, 2014, round 3, did not leave early, No
• Anthony Angello, 2014, round 5, left after 3 seasons, Yes (13-13-26 in 33 games)
• Jared Fiegl, 2014, round 7, did not leave early, No
• Dwyer Tschantz, 2014, round 7, did not leave early, No
• Misha Song, 2015, round 6, did not leave early, No
• Matt Cairns, 2016, round 4, did not leave early, No
• Morgan Barron, 2017, round 6, UNKNOWN, Yes (point per game) [Barron was forced to sign due to COVID.]
• Alex Green, 2018, round 4, did not leave early, Yes (7-9-16 in 29 games as a defenseman, defensive defenseman of the year) [Note: Green did sign during the canceled 2021 season, but confirmed on the Big Red Hockeycast that he would have returned for his senior year if not for COVID wiping out the season]
• Matthew Stienburg, 2019, round 3, did not leave early, Yes (point per game)
• Jack Malone, 2019, round 6, did not leave early, No
• Justin Ertel, 2021, round 3, left for CHL after one season, N/A
• Hank Kempf, 2021, round 7, did not leave early, No

I marked in bold the early departures.
I marked in red the players who had strong junior seasons.
I crossed out players who left early for another league besides the pros, or who we cannot say would have gone pro due to COVID knocking out the season.

Analysis:
Cornell had 46 draft picks under Schafer.
I have chosen to exclude Riley Nash from this analysis because I don't think it would be fair to categorize him as either an early departure or a four-year player. He obviously wasn't a four-year player, but keeping a first round pick three years is way better than a program would typically hope for.
Out of 42 draft picks excluding R. Nash and those crossed out, 7 left early. (16.67%)
Out of 18 players who had strong junior seasons, 4 left before their senior year. (22%) Adding LeNeveu to that total (given he had an incredible sophomore season), 5/19 left. (26%)

Conclusions:
Under Schafer, Cornell did an incredible job retaining drafted players through their senior seasons. 16.67% early departures among drafted players is very low. Even more impressive, Cornell retained a huge majority of players who had strong sophomore/junior seasons. In many of these cases, the drafted players ended up signing with their drafting teams anyway. See, e.g., Murray, Moulson, Ryan, Greening, Stienburg, Bitz. And in each of these cases, the player got NHL time. This indicates that in many cases, a player staying four years was not due to their team not wanting them but rather a result of that player desiring to return to Cornell.

It is no surprise that the last three Ivies to make the Frozen Four - Cornell in '03, Yale in '13, and Harvard in '17 - were loaded with seniors who could have gone pro after their junior seasons but chose to return to college.

Unfortunately, this postseason we've already seen two juniors jump to the pros. This includes Hoyt Stanley, who seems like a longshot to have any kind of NHL career. This is an unfortunate development and very atypical in Cornell Hockey history. Going forward, if Cornell wants to compete with more talented programs, it will be critical that our best players stick it out for four years, as they mostly did for the past 30 seasons.

unless you acknowledge that the world of the last 5 years is totally different than the one before (and getting moreso) - and make the analysis include the round the person was drafted in - this is completely useless. Is this going to be another case where you just insist that your humble, sober analysis is dead on, and just ignore the many other factors?  Penn State just lost 4 players today. You draft good players in this day and age, and it's a miracle if they make it past 3 years.

This fact makes the historical list useful, even if that's not the point BearLover was trying to make with it.  So even though the conversation degenerated from this point, I appreciate both the effort of compiling the list and the good form in sharing it.