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Quote from: ugarte on April 21, 2026, 01:51:47 PM

Quote from: Snowball on April 21, 2026, 12:40:11 PMSo opinions on whether this matters or not vary.

opinions vary, sure, but that doesn't mean they're equally grounded

Quote from: adamw on April 21, 2026, 12:30:53 PM

Quote from: ugarte on April 20, 2026, 10:59:16 PMI still think anyone who thinks a future employer will give the slightest shit about this is bonkers.

The future employer stuff is why the ECAC is the only league on Earth that doesn't announce suspensions. I wrote a diatribe about this a few years ago which I should just automatically re-publish every 3 months, because it remains a preposterous premise.

I got it I got it I got it.

You and Adam are right, the ECAC and I are wrong.

Issue resolved!

Quote from: fastforward on April 21, 2026, 12:22:03 PMI have greatly enjoyed reading everyone's thoughts and opinions on this matter, but for me, I'm over talking about someone who is no longer with us
I would much rather talk about our incoming goalie and the great team that we currently have in place!
Forward motion, or "fast forward"  as some may say  😂

Nicely put

Quote from: adamw on April 21, 2026, 12:30:53 PM

Quote from: ugarte on April 20, 2026, 10:59:16 PMI still think anyone who thinks a future employer will give the slightest shit about this is bonkers.

The future employer stuff is why the ECAC is the only league on Earth that doesn't announce suspensions.

So opinions on whether this matters or not vary.

Quote from: Chris '03 on April 21, 2026, 09:35:24 AM

Quote from: Snowball on April 21, 2026, 09:08:34 AM

Quote from: Chris '03 on April 21, 2026, 08:06:11 AM

Quote from: Snowball on April 20, 2026, 11:13:25 PM

Quote from: ugarte on April 20, 2026, 10:59:16 PMI still think anyone who thinks a future employer will give the slightest shit about this is bonkers.

Nope—you're wrong. I've seen it firsthand. Employers absolutely do look, and it factors in. Call it old-school if you want, but it still carries weight. Every young person should assume a future employer will go through their social media.

You've seen it firsthand that a kid switched schools for an athletic opportunity and it was perceived so negatively that it was the deciding factor in offering a job in a field unrelated to athletics?

Obviously not the exact same circumstances, but you knew that, didn't you?

What she said, not the transfer itself, but how he did it:

Quote from: stereax on April 21, 2026, 03:39:56 AM3) That being said, the article in its entirety puts Cournoyer in a pretty bad light, especially with Casey's quotes about being blindsided and about the value of education. If Cournoyer doesn't hack it at the NHL level and is a finance bro in 10 years who doesn't have connections to land him a job, as a hiring manager, that looks pretty bad to me - not that he transferred, but HOW he did it, putting the team in a really bad spot.

He's young, and young people deserve some grace for their behavior. I sincerely hope he learns that he should have handled this differently. As others have said, he probably didn't get good advice.

What's the "it" you've seen first hand then?  You were awfully confident telling Ugarte he's wrong.

I've hired plenty of people.  I've represented plenty of people who have hired plenty more people across a range of industries.  I agree with Ugarte in thinking no one cares.  People jump jobs all the time and frequently in ways that are poorly timed for their employer or handled in a way that the spurned party feels is unfair or wrong.  That doesn't make them unemployable.  It makes them average.

You're right: people change jobs all the time. That alone isn't disqualifying.

I've personally seen a colleague lose a bank job offer over a social media post, not because of movement, but because it raised questions about his judgment, and the bank didn't want its clients associating that with them.

No, one move doesn't make someone unemployable. But to say "no one cares" just isn't reality. In competitive fields, small signals are exactly how people differentiate candidates when everyone looks similar on paper.

And this isn't "average job mobility." It's a freshman, starting goalie, award winner, and NHL draft pick leaving immediately after Year 1. The  Sun article adds context that makes it worse:  the blindsiding of the coaching staff, the implication that he doesn't value an education, it raises questions about judgment and priorities.

You don't have to agree with how people interpret that. But you can't seriously argue it's  a good look that it carries zero signal. Maybe he will succeed in the NHL and it's moot, maybe he will never apply for the kind of job that will do a deep dive into him. But if he ever ends up in a setting where people do look closely...

Quote from: Chris '03 on April 21, 2026, 08:06:11 AM

Quote from: Snowball on April 20, 2026, 11:13:25 PM

Quote from: ugarte on April 20, 2026, 10:59:16 PMI still think anyone who thinks a future employer will give the slightest shit about this is bonkers.

Nope—you're wrong. I've seen it firsthand. Employers absolutely do look, and it factors in. Call it old-school if you want, but it still carries weight. Every young person should assume a future employer will go through their social media.

You've seen it firsthand that a kid switched schools for an athletic opportunity and it was perceived so negatively that it was the deciding factor in offering a job in a field unrelated to athletics?

Obviously not the exact same circumstances, but you knew that, didn't you?

What she said, not the transfer itself, but how he did it:

Quote from: stereax on April 21, 2026, 03:39:56 AM3) That being said, the article in its entirety puts Cournoyer in a pretty bad light, especially with Casey's quotes about being blindsided and about the value of education. If Cournoyer doesn't hack it at the NHL level and is a finance bro in 10 years who doesn't have connections to land him a job, as a hiring manager, that looks pretty bad to me - not that he transferred, but HOW he did it, putting the team in a really bad spot.

He's young, and young people deserve some grace for their behavior. I sincerely hope he learns that he should have handled this differently. As others have said, he probably didn't get good advice.

Quote from: ugarte on April 20, 2026, 10:59:16 PMI still think anyone who thinks a future employer will give the slightest shit about this is bonkers.

Nope—you're wrong. I've seen it firsthand. Employers absolutely do look, and it factors in. Call it old-school if you want, but it still carries weight. Every young person should assume a future employer will go through their social media.

Quote from: fastforward on April 20, 2026, 08:40:58 PM

Quote from: Snowball on April 20, 2026, 04:37:09 PM

Quote from: stereax on April 20, 2026, 11:27:26 AMJane's article was updated:

According to head coach Casey Jones '90, the move initially "blindsided" him and his staff, who had not anticipated losing their starting goaltender. Upon speaking with Cournoyer in the wake of his entering the portal, it was evident that the program and the goaltender had different understandings of what the future held.

"Coming to Cornell, we surely want people that understand the connections and the value of the education," Jones said. "We've just moved on. We wish him well, and we'll pivot."

....

"There's no shortage of people that want to play here," Jones said. "No shortage of people that want this opportunity right now with the roster we have."

[...]

"We've got a lot of good players here. Our roster is loaded next year," Jones said. "We feel good about that, and we'll have the right guys in the room that want to be here, and then just move on from there. We just move on. That's the landscape."

Wow, just wow. Blindsiding your coaching staff and then explaining it publicly as chasing a "better opportunity" leaves behind a pretty nasty digital footprint.

What stands out isn't the transfer, it's how it's now documented. These quotes don't disappear, they're searchable, and exactly the kind of thing that shows up when future employers start doing even basic due diligence. Outside the hockey bubble, that phrasing will get read less as ambition and more as a preview of how someone handles commitments when a new option appears.

I mentioned this a few days ago and got chastised for it

It's real and it does happen

Sorry I missed your mention of that! It absolutely happens.

I agree with the above poster who said he got bad advice.

Quote from: stereax on April 20, 2026, 11:27:26 AMJane's article was updated:

According to head coach Casey Jones '90, the move initially "blindsided" him and his staff, who had not anticipated losing their starting goaltender. Upon speaking with Cournoyer in the wake of his entering the portal, it was evident that the program and the goaltender had different understandings of what the future held.

"Coming to Cornell, we surely want people that understand the connections and the value of the education," Jones said. "We've just moved on. We wish him well, and we'll pivot."

....

"There's no shortage of people that want to play here," Jones said. "No shortage of people that want this opportunity right now with the roster we have."

[...]

"We've got a lot of good players here. Our roster is loaded next year," Jones said. "We feel good about that, and we'll have the right guys in the room that want to be here, and then just move on from there. We just move on. That's the landscape."

Wow, just wow. Blindsiding your coaching staff and then explaining it publicly as chasing a "better opportunity" leaves behind a pretty nasty digital footprint.

What stands out isn't the transfer, it's how it's now documented. These quotes don't disappear, they're searchable, and exactly the kind of thing that shows up when future employers start doing even basic due diligence. Outside the hockey bubble, that phrasing will get read less as ambition and more as a preview of how someone handles commitments when a new option appears.

Quote from: stereax on April 17, 2026, 07:36:42 PMCan anyone break this paywall?

Here friends, may Paywalls never bother you again:


https://www.removepaywall.com/

Quote from: stereax on April 16, 2026, 06:14:26 PMSidenote - the ? ? ? -> emoji pisses me off

Well sorry, but I actually typed four "?"  and somehow that emoji auto inserted, so I don't even know what

? ? ? -> emoji

means. Please tell me.

Quote from: ugarte on April 16, 2026, 10:48:49 AMI'm glad you have an exit strategy from CHN because I fear your material interest in the ongoing vitality of college sports is clouding your judgment on who gets to pick the winners and losers and why they should.

What??

That feels like shooting the messenger. Adam has spent a lot of time walking us through what these changes mean for college hockey. You can disagree, but reducing it to self-interest is unfair.

Quote from: BearLover on April 15, 2026, 01:12:24 AMWow, much bigger freakout by the non-BL posters in response to this news than when Robertson ditched last year. Why is that?

What I actually enjoy most about Cornell hockey isn't the chance for an NCAA run, though that's always fun, it's the season itself. The rhythm, watching a roster grow up together. Seeing freshmen turn into real players (Charlie Major!) and lines develop real chemistry over time.

If roster churn becomes constant, it's basically free agency every offseason. That continuity is gone and with it, a big piece of what made this program endearing.

Quote from: BearLover on April 14, 2026, 09:33:54 PM

Quote from: Bluelightning on April 14, 2026, 07:49:13 PMI've been enjoying looking at the transfer portal and seeing only Winter Wallace for Cornell while all these other schools get pillaged. Cournoyer going changes all that. Definitely didn't see him leaving, especially as a freshman. If we start to become a "farm team" for the likes of Denver, North Dakota, Michigan, etc....I won't be able to stomach it.
    Ben Robertson leaving last year hit men hard. His sophomore season wasn't as amazing as he expected (like Castagna...he couldn't buy a break last year). Not sure if Robertson had a decent "net gain" by leaving Cornell. He gets more rides in airplanes, probably more $$ in his pocket, and ??. He's a first line D man here.

Robertson probably fucked up.

If we become a farm team for the blue bloods I'll just stop watching completely

Agree. Feel sick to my stomach.

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 07, 2026, 03:33:56 PM

Quote from: stereax on April 07, 2026, 03:26:14 PMCashman got the Penrose for Coach of the Year.

We need a puking emoji again.

Agree. And what a terrible photo, he looks like he is arguing with a ref mid-game in that shot. Maybe there is a mixed message in there.

Quote from: stereax on April 01, 2026, 06:37:13 PM

Quote from: marty on April 01, 2026, 03:45:59 PM

Quote from: stereax on April 01, 2026, 03:42:17 PMhey anyone want some half finished poetry i wrote in my head caught in a thunderstorm in cortland waiting for the bus, or are we just gonna talk in circles about debate 101 all day?

I vote for the poem.

ask and you shall receive

still VERY much a work in progress lol and not even done but. the first line came to me trudging through a Severe Thunderstorm Warning and trying to flag down a Centro Cortland lmao

Promising, but I feel like Jesus is more of a Rosé kind of guy.