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Quote from: George64 on October 22, 2025, 03:54:11 PMTribute to Ken Dryden

This made me appreciate how fortunate I was to watch him play almost every week for 3 years.

Quote from: BearLover on October 13, 2025, 10:43:47 AMStill, how much of his USHL success is due to him being 20?

Overall, he looks like a strong recruit. But as always, there's a lot of uncertainty in recruiting.

Unless his age decreases, his current performance suggests his potential going forward.

I like the new L&F, although I switched to the reddish color.

Any idea why if:

• I'm reading the third-level listing (subjects like "Hockey")
• and choose an individual topic (like "Alumni in the Pros") by clicking the "NEW" button,
• then read what's new,
• and finally choose "Hockey" again to go up one level in the hierarchy,

"NEW" persists next to "Alumni in the Pros"?   

Quote from: Trotsky on September 29, 2025, 02:52:26 PM

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Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on September 29, 2025, 02:31:22 PMJust an FYI, my username includes an apostrophe, which is apparently an illegal character.  Fortunately, I just deleted the apostrophe and it let me log in.

I think we call them "undocumented characters" now.

Surely "TERRORIST characters." 

They're not sending their best. They're not sending U. They're sending special characters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems here. They're bringing dipthongs. They're bringing ßs. They're punctuation.  And some, I assume, are good characters."

Only if they're left apostrophies, etc.

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Quote from: BearLoverThere's a strange fixation on this forum about Q's questionable academic standards when in reality almost every school in the country, including almost every D-1 hockey school and some in our own conference, has a similar lack of standards, especially for those on the hockey team.

I think it is born, at least in part, from the ECAC's traditional positioning as a conference of schools that take academics seriously. Adding Q rather than RIT or Holy Cross undermined that positioning.*

That's at least in part because Q is so insufferable in it's marketing of itself. If the university positioned itself more as a serious school and not as a boarding school for wealthy kids to drink in new haven (or was quieter generally), it'd probably be less of an issue too.  My experience in fairfield county is that it's not taken super seriously and is wildly too expensive.  They run billboards bragging that they were included in USNWR rankings. Not where they rank just that the magazine includes them. It's be great if they improved their academic profile but for a lot of folks they'll always be seen as the diploma mill Trotsky sees.

*- yes I know it wasn't strictly a choice of those three at the time to replace UVM. But the perception at the time was that RIT and HC would be better cultural fits for the conference than Q.

From Chatgpt:

ECACHL Schools:

Ivies:

| School               | Approximate Recent Acceptance Rate                     |
| -------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------ |
| **Brown University** | \\~5.6% for Class of 2029 ([The Brown Daily Herald][1]) |
| Yale University      | \\~3.7% (Class of 2028) ([Crimson Education][2])        |
| Harvard University   | \\~3.6% (Class of 2028) ([Crimson Education][2])        |
| Columbia University  | \\~3.85% (Class of 2028) ([Crimson Education][2])       |
| Princeton University | \\~4.62% (Class of 2028) ([Crimson Education][2])       |
| Dartmouth College    | \\~5.3% (Class of 2028) ([Crimson Education][2])        |
| Cornell University   | \\~8.41% (Class of 2028) ([Crimson Education][2])       |

[1]: https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2025/03/brown-admits-565-of-applicants-to-class-of-2029?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Brown admits 5.65% of applicants to class of 2029 - The Brown Daily Herald"
[2]: https://www.crimsoneducation.org/ge/blog/ivy-league-acceptance-rates/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Ivy League Acceptance Rates For The Class of 2028 - Crimson Education GE"

Non-Ivies:
| School                                 | Approximate Acceptance Rate           |
| -------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------- |
| Clarkson University                    | \\~77% ([U.S. News & World Report][1]) |
| Colgate University                     | \\~12% ([U.S. News & World Report][2]) |
| Quinnipiac University                  | \\~77% ([U.S. News & World Report][3]) |
| Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) | \\~58% ([Niche][4])                    |
| St. Lawrence University                | \\~58% ([U.S. News & World Report][5]) |
| Union College (NY)                     | \\~44% ([U.S. News & World Report][6]) |

[1]: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/clarkson-university-2699?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Clarkson University - Profile, Rankings and Data | US News Best Colleges"
[2]: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/colgate-university-2701?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Colgate University - Profile, Rankings and Data | US News Best Colleges"
[3]: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/quinnipiac-university-1402/applying?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Quinnipiac University Admissions - US News Best Colleges"
[4]: https://www.niche.com/colleges/rensselaer-polytechnic-institute/admissions/facts/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Admissions & Acceptance - Niche"
[5]: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/st-lawrence-university-2829?utm_source=chatgpt.com "St. Lawrence University - Profile, Rankings and Data | US News Best Colleges"
[6]: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/union-college-new-york-2889?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Union College (NY) - Profile, Rankings and Data | US News Best Colleges"


Notes:
1. Sorry for the formatting. I'm still working my way into the 21st Century.
2. I realize admission rates are not a very good measure of academic quality. And there may be considerable self-selection. E.g., Clarkson's emphasis on technology may screen applicants without considerable STEM backgroun in high school.

Quote from: TrotskyThey each missed out on the top job.  They each would have been better than the one who took it.

+1

Quote from: scoop85Right after we beat Maryland someone posted here that they were happy to trade the success of their professional teams for a Cornell championship, and I wholeheartedly agreed with them. Well, with the Mets in freefall and the Giants looking miserable after one game, God is putting me to the test (but I still stand by my prior assertion).

I think God is making it easy for you. She's taking you up on your word.

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Quote from: dbilmesThe Columbia student newspaper has an article about how a group of alums want to upgrade the men's lacrosse program from the club level to the Division I level. However, it appears there are a lot of obstacles in the way, including Title IX regulations about having an equal number of male and female athletes. Since Columbia already has a women's lacrosse team, it would have to figure out another way to add a men's team sport with dozens of athletes. Of course, the current administration may do away with Title IX in its pursuit of eliminating anything that is linked to DEI.
In the meantime, the club lacrosse team shares a practice field with the women's ultimate frisbee team. "We're splitting the field for practices with girls' frisbee, and because of that it's always a safety hazard for them. It's also hindering on us."

Having a 2nd underachieving team in the League would really be a drag on our Strength of Schedule. Just sayin'.

But this is the path they have to follow. Back in the '70s, I played club lacrosse against Notre Dame. And look where they are now!

So call me in 40 years when Columbia gets good.

We should live so long! Or maybe I'll call you when we're both on the other side. ::thud::

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Quote from: dbilmesThe Columbia student newspaper has an article about how a group of alums want to upgrade the men's lacrosse program from the club level to the Division I level. However, it appears there are a lot of obstacles in the way, including Title IX regulations about having an equal number of male and female athletes. Since Columbia already has a women's lacrosse team, it would have to figure out another way to add a men's team sport with dozens of athletes. Of course, the current administration may do away with Title IX in its pursuit of eliminating anything that is linked to DEI.
In the meantime, the club lacrosse team shares a practice field with the women's ultimate frisbee team. "We're splitting the field for practices with girls' frisbee, and because of that it's always a safety hazard for them. It's also hindering on us."

Having a 2nd underachieving team in the League would really be a drag on our Strength of Schedule. Just sayin'.

But this is the path they have to follow. Back in the '70s, I played club lacrosse against Notre Dame. And look where they are now!

Quote from: stereaxNext week student tickets come out. Already setting my alarm for 5:30 am Tuesday.

Quote from: stereaxWoke up at 5:30 today to ensure I'd be alive by 6 to begin the Eternal Refresh for season tickets. Plaace your bets on what time between 6 and 10 am they will drop.

Whoa! When you first said you were setting your alarm for 5:30, I thought you were doing so to get in line and sleep overnight, to be able to buy tickets that wouldn't be sold yet for a few days.

Are you saying that now it's just done remotely?

Quote from: David HardingIthaca Journal report on the Varsity-Frosh game November 5, 1965.  Red Cub Puck Potential Evident

QuoteAnd the Big Red has a whale of a Frosh goalie.

Earl Tufford?

He was Cornell's and hockey's answer to Bill Bradley. But the obituary does not mention how his friendship with Art Kaminsky '68 revolutionized the money side of professional hockey.

Very sad. RIP, Big Kid!

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Quote from: TrotskyAI is a statistically-weighted revision of this.  It isn't intelligence.  It isn't consciousness.  It doesn't have the self-awareness of a bumble bee.  And it will never have any of these.  It isn't undeveloped cognition, it is utterly a zero value.  It's a probabilistic calculator.

It's a blank canvas for our anthroporphism.

To the extent these things are true of AI, they are also true of humans. What we call human ingenuity, self awareness, or consciousness is really just us regurgitating data, similar to what an AI does.

Your post is a common retort about the limits of AI, but I think it's cope about a lack of human exceptionalism. Whatever limitations AI has now, it probably won't have them in 5-10 years (or sooner).

Nope.  This debate was fought and won 60 years ago.  STEMmies just never got the news.

They are playing with dice.  What's in our heads isn't dice, it's what happens when dice realize oh fuck me I'm gonna die that sucks!

The unexamined ontological assumptions underpinning computer science and the hard sciences are as obsolete as luminiferous aether, and have been for nearly as long.  As always, the awkward little boys with the super advanced toys who can't get laid (yes, Pat Churchland, fine, and one girl) but can destroy the world are working with dark age philosophy.  But they're well paid and get A's, so, hey, what's the diff right?  

Read a book, dweebs.  There are more things in heaven and Earth.

Interesting discussion of this in today's New York Times.

Quote from: TrotskyFun with ChatGPT 5:

Top 10 Cornell Men's Ice Hockey Players of All Time

Lance Nethery (1975–1979)

Career Points: 271 (91 goals, 180 assists)

Highlights: All-time leader in career points and assists; two-time All-America first team; set multiple ECAC records for career assists and points.

Brock Tredway (1977–1981)

Career Points: 207 (113 goals, 94 assists)

Highlights: Holds the Cornell record for most goals in a season (47); led the team in scoring during his tenure.

Brian L. Cornell (1966–1969)

Season Points: 74 (22 goals, 52 assists) in 1968–69

Highlights: Two-time All-American; led the Ivy League in scoring in consecutive years; contributed to three consecutive NCAA championships.

Doug Ferguson (1964–1967)

Career Points: 187 (91 goals, 96 assists)

Highlights: Key figure in Cornell's early hockey success; ranked among the top in career points.

Darren J. Eliot (1983–1987)

Highlights: Inducted into the Cornell Athletics Hall of Fame in 1996; recognized for his outstanding contributions to the team.

Jason Elliott (1985–1989)

Highlights: Inducted into the Cornell Athletics Hall of Fame in 2009; celebrated for his exceptional performance on the ice.

Gil Halsted (1960s)

Highlights: Two-time first-team Helms Foundation All-American; led the Eastern Intercollegiate Basketball League in scoring in junior and senior seasons.

Stephen Bâby (2000–2003)

Career Points: 115 over 134 games

Highlights: Second-team All-American; two-time ECAC Hockey Defensive Forward of the Year; key contributor to the team's defense and special teams.

Michael L. Doran (1964–1967)

Career Points: 148 (59 goals, 89 assists)

Highlights: Set multiple records during his tenure; co-captain of the 1965–66 team; All-Ivy first team selection in 1965.

Joe Nieuwendyk (1984–1987)

Highlights: Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2011; notable for his professional career following his time at Cornell.

Three questions:
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• Did Halsted play both hockey and basketball?
  
• Is there any way to adjust for years when frosh played on the frosh team?
• How the fuck did this omit Ken Dryden?

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Quote from: SwampyDecember 28, 1966 I was driving, either to NYC or Boston, and, in the middle of nowhere, heard that Cornell had beaten Kentucky in basketball. (They only started to call it "men's basketball" years later.) I thought I had entered the twilight zone and almost ran off the road. It probably was WHCU.

I had a similar experience in 81 or 82 driving through some awful NJ hinterland and hearing Lance Nethery on a vague AM signal lighting it up via the clear channel voice of the Fort Wayne Komets, Bob Chase.

That would be WOWO in Ft. Wayne.

I used to be really into listening to distant AM stations as a teenager.

Me too.  It was the strongest AM radio station in the US for a while.  They claimed it could be heard in Europe.

Most long range AM signal came in as a sinusoidal whine, but it was clear as a bell, strong, and constant.  And it had hockey.

Yeah, those were the days. Bun now we have to keep the airwaves clear, just in case someone jaywalks in Berkeley and we have to fly in the marines to restore law & order.