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Quote from: pfibiger on May 17, 2026, 12:13:54 PM

Quote from: BearLover on May 17, 2026, 01:05:44 AMYou all realize Jane writes for the school paper, right? She's a college student. Pretty sure she doesn't want nor need this level of praise or criticism.

I have to ask —- do you feel like this doesn't apply to students who play for the college varsity hockey team?

BL usually blames the coaches tbh!

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on May 16, 2026, 07:55:18 AM

Quote from: stereax on May 16, 2026, 06:44:29 AMSidenote - is Cornell a blueblood? Not like BC, BU, Michigan, NoDak, Wisconsin, Denver, right? Purpleblood?

Redblood.

Duh!

I thought kind of thing got cancelled already....

Quote from: adamw on May 02, 2026, 10:12:06 AM

Quote from: abmarks on May 02, 2026, 12:28:49 AMCan someone explain the realistic way a kid delays HS graduation by a year two?

Short of failing something that is required for graduation, or getting permission to take an entire year off from school I can't figure it out.   Probably easier to do at a private school, but I'm trying to picture the kid who goes to a public US high school.

My high school days were certainly a long time ago (HS class of '85) but this only ever happened iirc if you basically flunked most of your classes one yr, or had a medical issue that made you miss too much class (kid had a serious car accident requiring lengthy rehab, or the occasionally pregnancy and child birth )

One train of thought at the moment is that prep schools will become popular again. Go there and re-do your junior year.

Either making hockey an even more expensive sport or making prep level NIL and scholarship money the leading candidate for longest thread in 2027-2028. Or both.

Can someone explain the realistic way a kid delays HS graduation by a year two?

Short of failing something that is required for graduation, or getting permission to take an entire year off from school I can't figure it out.   Probably easier to do at a private school, but I'm trying to picture the kid who goes to a public US high school.

My high school days were certainly a long time ago (HS class of '85) but this only ever happened iirc if you basically flunked most of your classes one yr, or had a medical issue that made you miss too much class (kid had a serious car accident requiring lengthy rehab, or the occasionally pregnancy and child birth )

Quote from: ursusminor on April 23, 2026, 06:40:50 AM

Quote from: Trotsky on April 23, 2026, 06:05:10 AMWhen looking at the PIM we should probably subtract the fighting and associated GM/DQ minutes.

Some leagues, I think including the entire CHL, don't count misconducts (of any type) and DQ's in penalty minute totals. Major penalties are included. I checked Walters' game-by-game stats https://chl.ca/lhjmq/en/players/21289/, and he had two major penalties. associated misconducts, etc., were indeed not included.

I didnt take time to adjust stats at all.  I ws just amused to document crimebaggery for stereax

Quote from: adamw on April 22, 2026, 02:04:48 PM

Quote from: BearLover on April 22, 2026, 11:56:00 AMA few weeks ago it was claimed that early departures are up, and that players like Hoyt Stanley leaving early is the norm. I'm not sure this is true. On his podcast this week, Brad Schlossman said early departures are down this season. Anecdotally, I'm seeing a lot of posts like this one:
https://x.com/DanielVConnolly/status/2046966239986163836?s=20

I am skeptical that it you looked at early departures on the aggregate, the number is higher than 5 or 10 years ago.

For schools with money, you are starting to see their ability to pay some $$ causes players to pause about going to the AHL for $80k. This is of course very new - and too early to make widespread conclusions - but pretty sure that is the case with the UConn players and Michael Hage at Michigan. As with everything, there are many factors at play, and individual preferences.  Stanley was a full tuition student - no grants, academic aid, etc... - so no one has any issue with him signing a pro deal when Cornell isn't even allowed to give him squat.

Because nothing better than proving bearlover wrong. BL NOT vindicated. Early departures are down - very slightly this year vs last. But compared to 2020-2024?

(Data from CHN player tracker via internet archive. 2022 wasn't there.

Quote from: ugarte on April 22, 2026, 04:33:38 PM

Quote from: BearLover on April 22, 2026, 04:15:26 PMRated 114 by NHL Central Scouting. We now have recruits at 96, 112, and 114 in this year's rankings, plus Caton Ryan at 177.

Daniel Walters is really good at hockey?

He's also trending towards post-fegeras crimebag of the year for Ms. Stereax. 

2025-2026 Fegaras:

Season	Team	League	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	PPG	PIM/G
——————	———————————————	————————	———	———	———	———	———	———	—————
2025-26	Cornell Univ.	NCAA	34	5	16	21	30	0.6	0.9
——————	———————————————	————————	———	———	———	———	———	———	—————

Walters (From https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/876330/daniel-walters)

Season	Team	League	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	PPG	PIM/G
——————	———————————————	————————	———	———	———	———	———	———	—————
2025-26	Halifax Mooseheads	QMJHL	67	16	15	31	122	0.5	1.8
2024-25	Halifax Mooseheads	QMJHL	74	3	9	12	61	0.2	0.8
2023-24	Halifax McDonald's U18	NSU18MHL	42	16	22	38	50	0.9	1.2
2022-23	Halifax Gulls U15 "A"	NSU15MHL	31	30	45	75	62	2.4	2.0
2022-23	The Buccaneers U16 AAA	NSU16AAAHL	2	2	1	3	2	1.5	1.0
2021-22	Halifax Gulls U15	NSU15MHL	35	17	26	43	38	1.2	1.1
——————	———————————————	————————	———	———	———	———	———	———	—————
Total			251	84	118	202	335	0.8	1.3

Quote from: BearLover on April 20, 2026, 01:31:06 PM

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Quote from: ugarte on April 20, 2026, 12:40:47 PM

Quote from: BearLover on April 20, 2026, 11:49:48 AMThat part I got. But his reasoning for transferring is what I want to know, and that is still a mystery. Did he transfer because he though Wisconsin would give him a better opportunity to sign pro? Because he was struggling in school/didn't want to go to class anymore? "He only cares about hockey" seems clear, but why transfer? I can think of several reasons, but we don't have much clarity as to the ones that led to the decision, other than maybe a vague allusion to the "education" bit.

I think it's pretty clear that if he doesn't care about the degree and is ready to jump ship to the pros ASAP, he'd rather be someplace that has the B1G's NIL budget, scholarship generosity and academic support (TAs who will take his exams). I don't know if Cornell's coaching/schedule came into it at all but it seems secondary. I honestly doubt that MTL cares very much which program he was at. 

That's true but it seems relevant which of those purported reasons was decisive. It's vague as to which of the following affected his decision and to what degree:
—he wanted more of a challenge (I suspect it's not this but that's basically the answer he gave to the Wisconsin journalist)
-money, whether scholarship or NIL (not mentioned in either of the articles but could of course be a reason)
-he didn't want to go to school (sort of alluded to by Casey but only if you squint)

I know people roll their eyes when I harp on this stuff but it's a lot different if a kid is dipping because he has to pay tuition versus because he thinks the ECAC is weak versus because he isn't a serious student. Yeah the answer could be "all of the above" but in terms of future recruiting it's good to know why a player like this would leave Cornell when so many other good players do not. The coaching staff got burned and it'd be nice to not have that happen again.

roll my eyes is one way to say it ... I mean, if you think the definition of journalism is forcing a run-of-the-mill college hockey player to confess, on the record, all of his deep thoughts about why he transferred, just to satisfy the burning curiosity of 10 people who absolutely need to know or it will kill them ... then ... good luck waiting on that.

You've been given way more to infer on this one case, either by my comments here or Jane's articles, than 99.9% of all the other 200 kids that transferred last week and pissed off the fans/coaches of the place they left.

She had Casey on the record. I was hopeful this would reveal more than we already knew, but it didn't. Not expecting her to grill Cournoyer, obviously. I think Jane is a promising journalist and the Sun's hockey coverage has been great, to be clear. But people wanted to know why he transferred and it's still extremely murky.

Do you honestly expect Casey to trash a kid on the record, or that it would be a good idea if he did?

I mean, this goes for every other coach too.

"Well, the kid is clueless, he lied to us in his meeting and then had his agent start calling around. Turns out he wasn't a good student and he decided he wanted the money more than a Cornell education."

What would be the benefit in a coach saying something like this? Assuming this is true.

I would have asked: "Did Cournoyer provide a reason for transferring?" and "when did he inform you of the transfer?", to start. You're gonna get coach-speak either way, but at least this way we'd get more specificity while not forcing Casey to disclose anything he doesn't want to. 

Why don't you ask her on twitter then?

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 19, 2026, 07:43:33 PM

Quote from: stereax on April 19, 2026, 09:34:34 AM

Quote from: marty on April 19, 2026, 02:09:14 AM

Quote from: fastforward on April 18, 2026, 12:51:19 PMSpeaking of awards, did anyone go to
LasRecipientst night's awards banquet or have who got what award?

Award List

Recipients

Casty, O'Brien, and Kraft swept, god damn. Voters must really like J names 😂

I know I do.   

Jerk

Quote from: BearLoverUnfortunately I doubt McNally is really going to dig into what happened, the Sun's sports coverage never wants to rock the boat but it would be great to at least get Casey on record.

Oh the young and their lack of interest in history.

Paging Jeremy Schaap (Sun Sports Editor 88-89 IIRC.)

The Sun broke the story that eventually brought down Cornell's Football HC Maxie Baughn, who had guided the team to an Ivy title the season before (1988). 

The Sun isn't online from that timeframe, unfortunately, to show you, but I have a visceral memory of reading Schaap's commentary accompanying the story as he detailed the deliberations at the Sun over whether or not to publish the story.

Considering the story was that HC Baughn had been having an affair with his Assistant Coach's wife, that was a brave decision to publish it.

Quote from: BearLover on April 16, 2026, 11:08:48 AM

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Quote from: sah67 on April 15, 2026, 12:10:05 PMWith an assist last night, Malinski hits the 40 point mark for the season (8G, 32A). It's especially impressive given that he has gotten almost zero power-play time, except on the rare occasions when Makar and Toews are both out of the lineup.

Is Malinski the first Cornell defensemen to ever hit 40 points in the NHL?

In a season? Yes. Douglas Murray topped out at 17 one season but totaled 64 for his career. No other Cornell d-man has ever even hit 40 points total.

So the best NHL defenseman in Cornell hockey history stayed four years and signed his first pro deal right before his 25th birthday. Too bad Hoyt Stanley didn't get the message.

Yeah, because one data point is perfectly correlated to reality.

Quote from: BearLover on March 31, 2026, 03:01:57 AM

Quote from: abmarks on March 30, 2026, 11:19:54 PM

Quote from: BearLover on March 30, 2026, 09:26:34 AMI definitely do take solace in the fact that Robertson has been disappointing this season at Michigan. The fact he went to a team with twice as much offensive talent and quarterbacked PP1 (after their former top defenseman got hurt ten games into the season), yet somehow put up worse numbers than his freshman year at Cornell, is pretty funny. He gets little to no hype from scouts (he actually got far more hype two years ago). There will be no NHL career for Ben Robertson. I certainly hope getting to the NHL wasn't his reasoning for transferring, because from that perspective it was a clear failure.

I've only found 2 articles that discuss why he went to Michigan.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2025/11/26_Robertsons-Rare-Move-Brings.php

"A big factor in his decision was cost. Ivy League schools do not offer full-time athletic scholarships, so he felt that it was a lot to ask for his parents to pay for another full season of school. Meanwhile, the tuition kept increasing. "

No mention about getting to the NHL there.

https://mgoblue.com/news/2025/11/19/ice-hockey-scholar-stories-robertson-prepared-for-moment-making-seamless-transition-to-u-m

"Off the ice, Robertson is an economics major and would like to pursue a career in business after playing professional hockey. His parents have always preached the importance of academics, and Robertson believes that the value in earning a Michigan degree will only benefit him down the road."

Nor here.  And fair to say he will be able to play some level of pro hockey.

I can't tell if you're being intentionally obtuse or if you're actually unaware of the most common reason a player would transfer from the ECAC/CCHA/AH to the Big 10/NCHC/HE.

Hardly.  I simply posted the only reporting out there that quotes Robertson.  He definitely mentioned cost, and must have mentioned oro hockey.  But he was definitely not quoted as saying he thought it was a better way to get to the show.  It's certainly possible that he thinks it's a better path to the NHL, but he either didn't say it, or the writers didn't decide to include it if that's the case

You on the other hand are again (for the bazillionth time) assuming things and ascribing notices to players based solely on your world view, and not what's actually known.

Quote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 05:27:17 PM

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 30, 2026, 05:25:35 PM

Quote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 03:59:16 PMBeeeej, you gotta stop making me cry with "night-night for the season".

Fuck, I'm gonna think about that during the salute next year and cry more.

But yeah, agreed - getting trounced like that is way easier psychically than the overtime losses. And you can't expect constant miracles. Just gotta keep going. One step at a time.

...man, what the hell am I gonna do with seven whole months without Cornell hockey? Cup playoffs, draft, free agency... Banana Ball until September???

There's still a few months of Lacrosse left.

Yeah, but that'll last me until June/July. What do I do over the summer??? (Besides fail at finding an internship.)

World Cup?

Quote from: BearLover on March 30, 2026, 09:26:34 AMI definitely do take solace in the fact that Robertson has been disappointing this season at Michigan. The fact he went to a team with twice as much offensive talent and quarterbacked PP1 (after their former top defenseman got hurt ten games into the season), yet somehow put up worse numbers than his freshman year at Cornell, is pretty funny. He gets little to no hype from scouts (he actually got far more hype two years ago). There will be no NHL career for Ben Robertson. I certainly hope getting to the NHL wasn't his reasoning for transferring, because from that perspective it was a clear failure.

I've only found 2 articles that discuss why he went to Michigan.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2025/11/26_Robertsons-Rare-Move-Brings.php

"A big factor in his decision was cost. Ivy League schools do not offer full-time athletic scholarships, so he felt that it was a lot to ask for his parents to pay for another full season of school. Meanwhile, the tuition kept increasing. "

No mention about getting to the NHL there.

https://mgoblue.com/news/2025/11/19/ice-hockey-scholar-stories-robertson-prepared-for-moment-making-seamless-transition-to-u-m

"Off the ice, Robertson is an economics major and would like to pursue a career in business after playing professional hockey. His parents have always preached the importance of academics, and Robertson believes that the value in earning a Michigan degree will only benefit him down the road."

Nor here.  And fair to say he will be able to play some level of pro hockey.

Quote from: stereax on March 30, 2026, 09:43:06 PM

Quote from: abmarks on March 30, 2026, 09:41:40 PMMy prediction:

Bearlover wins powerball lottery in spring 2027, uses new-found wealth to convince Pelletier to make amends for Pelletier's foolish youthful indiscretions  by entering the portal and landing in Ithaca for the 2027-2028 season. 

Pelletier quoted by Jane as saying "yeah, got tired of beating up on weaksauce BU in puny buildings, want to get it done in the real Garden."

 

Least realistic part of this is that Jane's still with the Sun

Et tú with the assumptions? 🙀.

Could be the Hockey News.

Could be that the Sun gives fifth and sixth year of  eligibility for students enrolled in graduate programs?

🤣