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Did anybody else's feed switch over to wrestling?

[quote Oat][quote sah67]I thought Mugford played a superb game tonight.  And yes, even when he led the charge that started the huge fight [/quote]

Mugford sprinted in and pulled a swim move through 3 Q guys... as Davenport stood and watched quietly from the crease.[/quote]

You really want our starting goaltender, arguably the most important position in all of team sports, to risk a game DQ by getting into a fight?

[quote KeithK]Why would anyone voluntarily move a pro-sports franchise to Kansas City?  Ever looked at the Royals over the last 20 years?[/quote]

The Chiefs do pretty well both attendance and performance wise.  Granted, selling out eight home games a year might be easier than getting a good crowd for 41 games a year.

[quote johnny923]Didn't Reggie Bush just get USC in trouble (again) by contacting the top football recruit in the country?  Telling Nash to contact Zajac...not smart.

Also, it may just be me, but I don't think the best way to get a kid to like your school is to bash other schools (especially the one that his brother goes to).  

And...this may just be me, but if you are trying to say "you are" in a contraction, it is you're...not just your.[/quote]

As I understand it, it's ok for the recruit to call somebody associated with the team.  The calls going the other way are the ones that are usually restricted.

I think in 04-05 the new red jerseys didn't come in until later in the season, and the team wore the previous year's red jerseys for a while.  So, in the Fall of 04 Topher could have been wearing Krahn's jersey from the previous year.

[quote billhoward][quote Section A Banshee]I know there's a mandatory sit-out time for concussions in the NHL... something like two weeks with no symptoms before they let you play again.  I can't imagine what the rule is for college.[/quote]

Is it a concussion or are we assuming since he got knocked down hard and looked woozy that it's a concussion? What by the way, medically, is a concussion? It's not a binary thing like a knocked-out tooth - there are gradations and one may "could be a minor concussion, could be a bad headache"? If an MD answers this question, be advised we use United Healthcare for payment, so it might not be worth your time.[/quote]

FWIW here's what Wikipedia has to say about concussions, including how long until somebody can return to contact sports after suffering various grades.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concussion

Looks like it should be on in Ithaca as well: http://web.twcny.com/twsports/index.cfm?&action=daily&date=2-9-2007

[quote RatushnyFan][quote jtwcornell91]Somewhat to my surprise, this seemingly one-sided description of events looks more or less accurate based on the video.  The only thing it doesn't mention is that Lindros had his back turned to Murray when Murray's stick clipped him in the back of the head, so he probably assumed Murray was deliberately whacking him in retaliation for the hit.  But how ridiculous is fighting in the NHL if Lindros cross-checks Murray to start a fight and then steps out of the way and lets his goon fight for him?[/quote]
Lindros is one concussion away from being a vegetable.  He can't fight anymore.  It was actually pretty brave of Barch to step in and fight Doug(las) so that Lindros doesn't end up in a coma.

By the way, Doug(las) gets great style points in my book.  I love how unsnaps his chin strap and tosses his helmet aside.  That's a manly move that all too many fighters bypass in the heat of the moment.[/quote]

Does Doug still wear a half-shield? I think there's an additional penalty if you fight while wearing a shield.  Regardless, it does look cool to toss off the helmet before rumbling .

[quote mha] On the other hand, I wonder if, once we set that precedent, we might not end up overdoing it. [/quote]

Like Duke basketball, who already retired J.J. Redick's number. (They've retired a total of 13 numbers). http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2754254

[quote dag14]Remember the length of the college hockey season v. the NHL season....If you are playing less than 30 games a year, even a prolific college goal-scorer isn't likely to have 100 points.[/quote]

But you would think his per game scoring would be through the roof in college given what it was his first two years in the NHL.  Heck, he had five goals in only nine games for the Flames immediately after his junior year season.  If you put 1988 Gretzky in college back then he'd get three goals a game right?

[quote jtwcornell91][quote Rita](I only saw 1 door open in the penalty box area).[/quote]

Actually our penalty box is not next to the scorer's table like the other one; it's next to our bench in front of C.  There's a red telephone so the penalty box official can call Arthur.[/quote]

On the topic of the scorer's table, has anybody heard anything about the PA system? As in, are they trying to fix it?  It sounds awful! Plus there's the constant static/scratching/beeping that goes on throughout the game.  It's just audible enough that it's driving me crazy.

Have you seen Miss Albany this year?  I think even the chess team could get her.

[quote Trotsky]Teams should retire numbers for a set period of time after the player's retirement -- say, 100 years -- then put them back into service. How many single digit numbers are left for the Yankees?[/quote]

2 (Jeter) and 6 (Torre) are left.  I assume 2 will be retired when Jeter is all done though.

[quote KeithK][quote jtwcornell91]In a nutshell, they find the ruling unreasonable, but understand that going to court over an athletic logo is silly.[/quote]It's equally silly for the NCAA to prevent a team from participating in or hosting tournaments because of a logo. So in your opinion the right thing to do is to just give in to the NCAA's institutional silliness?[/quote]

This isn't the civil rights movement of the 1960s.  Fighting silliness with more silliness is just a waste of resources.

Just got this email. Looks like W&M won't take the same course of action as UND.  So, NCAA, you've won.  Nobody will be forced to face the horror of seeing feathers in the W&M athletics logo.

October 10, 2006


Dear Fellow Members of the William & Mary Community:

I write concerning the National Collegiate Athletic Association's dispute with the College over our nickname and logo.

During the past several months, the NCAA has reviewed William & Mary's athletic insignia to determine whether they constitute a violation of Association standards. On the more important front, the Committee concluded that the College's use of the term "Tribe" reflects our community's sense of shared commitment and common purpose. Accordingly, it will remain our nickname. The presence of two feathers on the logo, though, was ruled potentially "hostile and abusive." We appealed that determination. The decision was sustained and has become final. We must now decide whether to institute legal action against the NCAA or begin the process of altering our logo.

I am compelled to say, at the outset, how powerfully ironic it is for the College of William & Mary to face sanction for athletic transgression at the hands of the NCAA. The Association has applied its mascot standards in ways so patently inconsistent and arbitrary as to demean the entire undertaking. Beyond this, William & Mary is widely acknowledged to be a principal exemplar of the NCAA's purported, if unrealized, ideals.

Not only are our athletic programs intensely competitive, but according to the Association's own Academic Progress Reports, the College ranks fifth among all institutions of higher learning in scholastic excellence. Each year, we graduate approximately 95% of our senior student athletes.  During the past decade, two William and Mary athletes have been named Rhodes Scholars and 42 elected to membership in Phi Beta Kappa, the national honorary society founded at the College in 1776. Meanwhile, across the country, in the face of massive academic underperformance, embarrassing misbehaviors on and off the field, and grotesque commercialization of intercollegiate athletics, the NCAA has proven hapless, or worse. It is galling that a university with such a consistent and compelling record of doing things the right way is threatened with punishment by an organization whose house, simply put, is not in order.

Still, in consultation with our Board of Visitors, I have determined that I am unwilling to sue the NCAA to further press our claims. There are three reasons for my decision. I'll explain them in order.

First, failing to adhere to the NCAA logo ruling would raise the substantial possibility that William & Mary athletes would be foreclosed from competing at the level their attainments and preparations merit. Two years ago, for example, we hosted a thrilling semifinal national championship football game against James Madison University. At present, we are barred from welcoming such a competition to Williamsburg -- in football or any other sport. I believe it is our obligation to open doors of opportunity and challenge for our students, not to close them. I will not make our athletes pay for our broader disagreements with a governing association. We have also consulted with our coaches and student athletic advisory council on the matter. They are of the same mind.

Second, given the well-known challenges that this and other universities face -- in assuring access to world-class education, in supporting the research and teaching efforts of our faculties, and in financing and constructing twenty-first-century laboratories and facilities -- I am loath to divert further energies and resources to an expensive and perhaps multi-faceted lawsuit over an athletic logo. Governing requires the setting of priorities. And our fiercest challenges reside at the core of our mission. I know, of course, that more than one member of our understandably disgruntled community would likely be willing to help finance litigation against the NCAA. Those dollars are better spent in scholarship programs.

Third, the College of William & Mary is one of the most remarkable universities in the world. It was a national treasure even before there was a nation to treasure it. I am unwilling to allow it to become the symbol and lodestar for a prolonged struggle over Native American imagery that will likely be miscast and misunderstood -- to the detriment of the institution. Our challenge is greatness. Our defining purpose is rooted in the highest ideals of human progress, achievement, service, and dignity. Those are the hallmarks of the College of William & Mary. They will remain so.

I know this decision will disappoint some among us. I am confident, however, that it is the correct course for the College. We are required to hold fast to our values whether the NCAA does so or not. In the weeks ahead, we will begin an inclusive process to consider options for an altered university logo. I invite you to participate. And I am immensely grateful for your efforts and energies on behalf of the College.

Go Tribe. Hark upon the gale.

Sincerely,


Gene R. Nichol
President
College of William & Mary