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Another article highlighting Bardreau, this time courtesy of the NCAA.com website: http://www.ncaa.com/news/icehockey-men/article/2012-12-06/big-few-weeks-cornells-bardreau

Quote from: Jim HylaUnfortunately the Women fall to Harvard as well. It will be interesting to see how that mixes up the next poll.

Sad that we lost a spot to Clarkson.  Glad we'll have a chance at them this weekend.

Quote from: RichHThat's it. I'm now on a mission to punch two voters in the throat.

Union lost its #1 vote this week. Finally

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Quote from: bnr24As far as the play being blown dead, the whistle was definitely after the goal was in net, at the point when the team was celebrating, so it had to be intent.

CornellBigRed.com

Quote from: A great effort by Greg Miller set up another Big Red chance right in front of the Colgate net as he made his way to the front of the net and jammed it on goal. Lynah Rink went into a frenzy after Madison Dias put the loose puck in the net, but the officials ruled the whistle had already blown, nullifying the would-be goal.

I read that, but listening to the whistle in person, it definitely happened after the goal was in net.  It wouldn't be the first odd call all night, with 4 game misconducts awarded, some of which I still don't know what happened.

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Quote from: flyersgolfWhere is Esposito and Gotovets?

According to College Hockey News, Espo "had a setback in practice this week."

This is what I heard at the game Saturday:
Gotovets: ankle (stepped on a puck in practice)
Espo:  Shoulder ("setback" would lead one to think it's his ankle again. I think shoulder is a new problem).

So to sum up, Esposito either suffered a concussion against Colorado College, or had a "setback in practice" which could either be shoulder injury or an ankle injury, or, as one person (somewhat unfairly) speculated, there are off ice issues. Well, that makes the reason for his absence crystal clear.

He was hanging out around the ref locker room throughout the game with some other scratched players.  Wasn't limping and I doubt they'd be allowed to hang out with the team if they had "off ice" issues.  Gotovets wasn't there, maybe he had the sickness? Speculation is fun

While wandering around Colgate's campus (and when going in and out of Starr), we saw Gotovets and Esposito wandering around, so unless he got sick for Saturday's game or it was some noncontagious form of sickness, I would rule out sickness.  Also, re: Esposito, https://twitter.com/BThomasIthaca/status/264876874025533440

As far as the play being blown dead, the whistle was definitely after the goal was in net, at the point when the team was celebrating, so it had to be intent.

Quote from: semsoxI didn't get a chance to see Saturday's game live, but the archive up on-line looks pretty much the same as Friday's game did.  Was it much better quality than what this archive looks like or am I just losing it?

It actually was much better Saturday.  The women's game was awful quality video for me, but the men's game looked much more high quality in real time.  (Admittedly, I haven't looked at the archives for Saturday yet.)

Anyone up for a laugh?

http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/Rink-s-a-real-barn-burner-3925636.php

Here is my favorite excerpt:

QuoteMessa Rink is small, 37 years old and, for most fans, without chair-backs and cup-holders, let alone high-def replay monitors and waiter service.

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It's actually a pretty nice mural. And good for them. They made the Frozen Four. They have the right to (and should) commemerate it in as many ways as possible.

Yeah. Why would this raise anybody's hackles? It's one thing when their uh...fans(?) act like entitled pricks, but that's the hockey locker room.  Their players accomplished a lot of things that their program can (and should) be proud of, finally. Why not commemorate them?

I don't know, my issue with them had to do with the fact that they made a big to-do about not celebrating athletics in the locker room.  I don't want to take away from their accomplishments (seriously, props to the Frozen Four), but I respected them more for their stance before.  Idk, guess it is easy to say before you win anything significant.

https://twitter.com/CornellWAFT/status/238399201929728000

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Quote from: jtn271) Who cares what there is to do other than watch the games? You'll be there to see Cornell win the ECAC Championship, not see the sights. Price, distance, hotel reservations, and scheduling conflicts are all legitimate reasons not to go but "I'll be bored" is not.

Congratulations on deciding for everyone here what should and should not be important to us.  If you'd ever had to kill a Sunday in Troy waiting for the third game of a three-game series, you might feel differently.

I think that a regular season game against RPI is a little different than the ECAC championship game.

Also, I don't believe for a second that anyone who posts here regularly (and thus probably considers themselves a die-hard Cornell hockey fan) would skip going to Lake Placid to see the team play simply because of a perceived lack of things to do.

Then you need to open up those young & untrained eyes!!    As a Cornell Hockey fan of 45 years, I resent someone who is still wet behind the ears being arrogant enough to imply that I am not a die-hard Cornell Hockey fan because of perceived lack of things to do.   As you may guess, I am considerably older than you and I don't care for the same recreational opportunities as your generation.    I'm okay with that.   Remember, with a little luck, you'll be where I am some day!!   But, in the meantime, try to show a bit more humility!!   It's a very redeeming quality!!

Back to LP:   No, I don't give a damn about going to LP and have no plans to go there.   Nor will I criticize you for going and having a good time.   Enjoy!!    I will find other things to enjoy in March until the ECAC comes to their senses...

My intention was never to imply that you or anyone else here is not a die-hard Cornell Hockey fan. Rather, it was to say that despite complaining now, I suspect that if in a year and a half Cornell is playing in Lake Placid many of you will find yourselves in attendance, and for those that aren't it will be for reasons other than a lack of things to do.

I never expected that it was your intention to imply such a thing....   But, words have meaning & consequences.   That's how the words came across.   And, I find it offensive.  

And your expectation that, if in a year and a half Cornell is playing in Lake Placid I will find myself in attendance, is not likely to hold true.....    It didn't happened in the 1990's and it's not going to happen now.  

I don't know what is so hard for you & some others to understand about the concept that I (& others) find nothing interesting about LP except the ECAC Hockey tournament.    Frankly, that's not enough to attract me to LP.    If I'm going to travel in March for a hockey tournament in March, I'd rather go to Boston and watch the HE tournament.   Granted, I'm not seeing Cornell play...   But, I'm probably seeing a better brand of hockey and definitely have better off-hockey tourist-type choices to make.    And, for the years that Cornell doesn't advance to LP, the HE tourney is a slamdunk!!   I'm okay with this choice; you're okay with LP...   So, what's the problem?

Have fun in Boston!  I think the point was, some of us think the choice is a good one. If you won't be there, that is definitely your decision.  But for those of us who are going to watch Cornell hockey, the attractions are a bonus, not a prerequisite.

Quote from: css228As someone who wasn't alive when the miracle happened, I have to say I'm really excited that we're going to be in LP my senior year if we make the ECAC Final Four. However I'm glad it starts in my senior year because I really don't want to make that trip twice. Well that and I want to be making another trip in the general direction of AC in early April, and not just to see the folks.

Frozen Four in Philly?? :-D

I noticed the exclusion of RPI...Given that they have as many players attending as we do, it doesn't quite make sense.  Interesting that there are no CHA teams, only HEA and WCHA rounding out the remaining spots as well as two from the CWHL.

I would actually love if Quinnipiac hosted the 2014 Frozen Four.  It would be nice given that the previous locations since they began in '01 include:
Minneapolis, Minnesota (2001, 2006, 2010, 2013) [WCHA]
Durham, NH (2002, 2005) [HEA]
Duluth, MN (2003, 2008, 2012) [WCHA]
Providence, RI (2004) [corporate arena used by Providence for basketball and the AHL for hockey]
Lake Placid, NY (2007) [enough said]
Boston, MA (2009) [HEA]
Erie, PA (2011) [Corporate arena used by OHL, indoor football, and NCA development league]

So it would be a new location.  It would even out the number of times it is on our coast instead of in Minnesota.  And it would be an ECAC venue for the first time since the NCAA DI tournament.

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Quote from: bnr24So yes, some still have these rules in place, but a Bed and Breakfast or a Lodge are places which have these rules typically regardless of location.  If you want to go only for our team though, there are more than enough options that allow for cancellation with as little as 3 days.  And these are only the hotels in Lake Placid, proper.  Once you go SLIGHTLY outside of Lake Placid, they are all refundable.  So the hotel argument to me seems to be invalid.

Not really, you're going to need to know the policy during ECAC week. What they do now doesn't mean what they will do then. Many hotels have different policies for major events. Certainly those were not the policies when the ECAC was there before. Hopefully it will all be explained tomorrow.

What makes you think that it will not be made even better a year later than that and during a weekend when demand will be high?  They will make even MORE money if they are able to make better cancellation policies during that weekend.  Besides, since when have hotels gotten MORE draconian in their policies into the future when it is already almost unheard of for places which are not B&Bs or Resorts.

Ummm.  Past experience?

Life.  Hotels.  Basic common sense?

I'm saying given that we are living in 2012, where social media is incredibly influential in our lives and people are living on the web, that things have likely changed in the last decade.  Things have changed in the last four years and to think that hotel policies are somehow magically free of this is naive.

Look, no one is saying you are wrong, just that the policies in the past were crap and we wait to see if the ECAC has convinced them to change. Maybe they have and you are correct, but we don't have any hard evidence that you are right. Yes things change, they change every year, but they never changed during all the years we were there before. Not even Adam seems able to say that things will be different. Having lived through the past, we don't want to experience it again.

You can give all the reasons that you want, and the seem to be good ones, but that doesn't change our worry. Maybe it will happen in a few more hours.

My main point (to both Jim and Al) is that we have no reason to think that it will NOT change when so many other things have and to worry about this before we can know anything for certain is pointless.  Those who are going to go will go regardless of the policies, given that it is not a cheap thing to do in the first place.  As someone who wasn't around last time it was played there, I am personally excited to see it go back. ::popcorn::

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Quote from: bnr24So yes, some still have these rules in place, but a Bed and Breakfast or a Lodge are places which have these rules typically regardless of location.  If you want to go only for our team though, there are more than enough options that allow for cancellation with as little as 3 days.  And these are only the hotels in Lake Placid, proper.  Once you go SLIGHTLY outside of Lake Placid, they are all refundable.  So the hotel argument to me seems to be invalid.

Not really, you're going to need to know the policy during ECAC week. What they do now doesn't mean what they will do then. Many hotels have different policies for major events. Certainly those were not the policies when the ECAC was there before. Hopefully it will all be explained tomorrow.

What makes you think that it will not be made even better a year later than that and during a weekend when demand will be high?  They will make even MORE money if they are able to make better cancellation policies during that weekend.  Besides, since when have hotels gotten MORE draconian in their policies into the future when it is already almost unheard of for places which are not B&Bs or Resorts.

Ummm.  Past experience?

Life.  Hotels.  Basic common sense?

I'm saying given that we are living in 2012, where social media is incredibly influential in our lives and people are living on the web, that things have likely changed in the last decade.  Things have changed in the last four years and to think that hotel policies are somehow magically free of this is naive.

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Quote from: bnr24So yes, some still have these rules in place, but a Bed and Breakfast or a Lodge are places which have these rules typically regardless of location.  If you want to go only for our team though, there are more than enough options that allow for cancellation with as little as 3 days.  And these are only the hotels in Lake Placid, proper.  Once you go SLIGHTLY outside of Lake Placid, they are all refundable.  So the hotel argument to me seems to be invalid.

Not really, you're going to need to know the policy during ECAC week. What they do now doesn't mean what they will do then. Many hotels have different policies for major events. Certainly those were not the policies when the ECAC was there before. Hopefully it will all be explained tomorrow.

What makes you think that it will not be made even better a year later than that and during a weekend when demand will be high?  They will make even MORE money if they are able to make better cancellation policies during that weekend.  Besides, since when have hotels gotten MORE draconian in their policies into the future when it is already almost unheard of for places which are not B&Bs or Resorts.