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Title: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on October 02, 2025, 11:31:51 PM
Malot is going to make the Kings opening night roster.  Tim Rego was assigned to AHL Ontario today.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on October 03, 2025, 11:59:51 AM
So last year we had:

Barron (Win), Malott (LA), Malinski (Col), Stienburg (Col).  Mitchell, who I swear was on their roster, played in 0 games for the Islanders.

This year we break camp with Barron (Win), Malott (LA), and Malinski (Col). Bancroft (Bos), Stienburg (Col), Kempf (Col), Mack (NYR), Berard (Van), Rego (LA), Malone (NJ), Andreev (Bos), O'Leary (Win), Suda (Fla), Seger (Det), Shane (Sea), Penney (StL) and Mitchell (NYI) are in the minors. Bardreau, Kaldis, Weidner, and Psenicka are in Europe.  Rauter is in Japan.  Kovich and Robertson are with other NCAA schools.  MacDonald (Col) is injured.  I am not sure if Angello has retired.

http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9%E3%83%BB%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A6%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on October 04, 2025, 07:34:24 AM
Kaldis is still in the KHL
Weidner is still in Germany

I heard last season that Gillam was playing in Sweden but I didn't find anything about where
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: ACM on October 04, 2025, 08:31:46 AM
Alex Rauter (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/169870/alex-rauter) in Japan.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: The Rancor on October 04, 2025, 08:49:16 AM
Quote from: ACM on October 04, 2025, 08:31:46 AMAlex Rauter (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/169870/alex-rauter) in Japan.

Let's go Grits!!
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: abmarks on October 04, 2025, 11:54:39 AM
Bancroft was sent down to Providence (AHL) several days ago.

Nice article about Malott here:

Jeff Malott is stronger, playing with more of an edge and more than deserving of his first Opening Night roster - LA Kings Insider https://share.google/dweNx17V4RHPB1MjE
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on October 04, 2025, 11:55:38 AM
Thank you both, updated!  :-*
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on October 04, 2025, 12:01:21 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on October 04, 2025, 07:34:24 AMKaldis is still in the KHL
Weidner is still in Germany

I heard last season that Gillam was playing in Sweden but I didn't find anything about where

Starting his 4th season in Norway.  Frisk Asker which seems like the wrong order.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: scoop85 on October 04, 2025, 12:10:57 PM
Quote from: abmarks on October 04, 2025, 11:54:39 AMBancroft was sent down to Providence (AHL) several days ago.

Nice article about Malott here:

Jeff Malott is stronger, playing with more of an edge and more than deserving of his first Opening Night roster - LA Kings Insider https://share.google/dweNx17V4RHPB1MjE

I've always believed Malott had NHL ability, and I'm glad he's been able to prove that. Wishing him a great start to the season.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Jim Hyla on October 04, 2025, 02:19:31 PM
Quote from: abmarks on October 04, 2025, 11:54:39 AMBancroft was sent down to Providence (AHL) several days ago.

Nice article about Malott here:

Jeff Malott is stronger, playing with more of an edge and more than deserving of his first Opening Night roster - LA Kings Insider https://share.google/dweNx17V4RHPB1MjE

QuoteHis points have come in different ways in the exhibition season but Malott has been effective along the boards, making plays off the wall, forechecking with a purpose and keeping plays alive in the offensive zone. No better way to defend than to not have to play in the defensive zone and Malott has done well with that.

Wonder where he learned to play like that?
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on October 04, 2025, 03:52:08 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on October 04, 2025, 12:01:21 PMStarting his 4th season in Norway.  Frisk Asker which seems like the wrong order.

Thank you!  I only look on hockey-db and it doesn't list anything for him.  Guess I'm too lazy to do a full internet search. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on October 05, 2025, 01:45:50 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on October 04, 2025, 03:52:08 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on October 04, 2025, 12:01:21 PMStarting his 4th season in Norway.  Frisk Asker which seems like the wrong order.

Thank you!  I only look on hockey-db and it doesn't list anything for him.  Guess I'm too lazy to do a full internet search.

I have infinite free time.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: sah67 on October 06, 2025, 12:16:56 PM
Nice profile on Malinski from a Denver paper, focusing on his "switching sides" this season ahead of an expected pairing with Brent Burns.

https://www.denverpost.com/2025/10/02/sam-malinski-avalanche-left-side-defenseman/amp/
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: BearLover on November 25, 2025, 10:00:14 PM
None of the players who went pro from last year's team are producing at all this season, including Bancroft (0 points in 9 AHL games). Amazing they were an OT goal, and maybe a few instances of the stomach flu, away from the frozen four.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on November 26, 2025, 10:09:59 AM
I have noticed that too.  It's disappointing.

Bancroft left college early for a team that seemed poised for a rebuild but instead went for stopgap players in the off-season.  With prospects like Poitras and Lysell stuck in the minors it seems to have kept an undrafted free agent like Bancroft glued to the press box.

I still don't begrudge him for leaving early.  As an older player he had to figure his time was now.  I'm not counting him out but this isn't the first full pro season that he was hoping for.

During my fandom which starts in the mid 90s, Cornell has always been a greater than the sum of it's parts designed team. I always expect team success to overshadow individual success.  Being an OT goal away from the Frozen Four was never a barometer for how Kempf, O'Leary, Bancroft, Suda, Penney, Psenicka, Rego, Mack or Shane would fare as professionals as far as I'm concerned. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on November 26, 2025, 11:57:25 AM
It was The System (TM).  8)
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 26, 2025, 12:24:08 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on November 26, 2025, 11:57:25 AMIt was The System (TM).  8)

Somebody had to say it.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on November 26, 2025, 05:19:50 PM
Travis Mitchell recalled again to fill the Islanders open roster spot.  Again he's not expected to play.  Hopefully someday...
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Beeeej on November 26, 2025, 05:30:05 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on November 26, 2025, 05:19:50 PMTravis Mitchell recalled again to fill the Islanders open roster spot.  Again he's not expected to play.  Hopefully someday...

At least he's getting paid full salary even in Bridgeport, not that it's much (at least as these things go - I'd be thrilled to be paid the same). I'd like to see him benefit from free agency next year but it's hard to see the potential for that without NHL playing time.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: sah67 on November 27, 2025, 09:22:15 AM
Malinski with his patented laser beam wrister to net his 2nd goal of the season last night:
https://www.nhl.com/video/sjs-col-malinski-scores-goal-against-yaroslav-askarov-6385636311112
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: arugula on November 28, 2025, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: sah67 on November 27, 2025, 09:22:15 AMMalinski with his patented laser beam wrister to net his 2nd goal of the season last night:
https://www.nhl.com/video/sjs-col-malinski-scores-goal-against-yaroslav-askarov-6385636311112

And yet another Malinski shoutout by Elliotte Friedman on 32 thoughts. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on November 28, 2025, 04:29:57 PM
Mitchell getting his first NHL game! (https://x.com/NYIslanders/status/1994505955309166781?t=-r6lMFRE_4DvHIDv8vA2Ig&s=19)
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on November 28, 2025, 08:38:06 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 28, 2025, 04:29:57 PMMitchell getting his first NHL game! (https://x.com/NYIslanders/status/1994505955309166781?t=-r6lMFRE_4DvHIDv8vA2Ig&s=19)

NHLer Travis Mitchell.  Has a nice ring to it.  Can never take it away from him. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 28, 2025, 11:30:30 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on November 28, 2025, 08:38:06 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 28, 2025, 04:29:57 PMMitchell getting his first NHL game! (https://x.com/NYIslanders/status/1994505955309166781?t=-r6lMFRE_4DvHIDv8vA2Ig&s=19)

NHLer Travis Mitchell.  Has a nice ring to it.  Can never take it away from him. 

And another picture on the wall at Lynah!
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: arugula on December 01, 2025, 12:00:40 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 28, 2025, 11:30:30 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on November 28, 2025, 08:38:06 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 28, 2025, 04:29:57 PMMitchell getting his first NHL game! (https://x.com/NYIslanders/status/1994505955309166781?t=-r6lMFRE_4DvHIDv8vA2Ig&s=19)

NHLer Travis Mitchell.  Has a nice ring to it.  Can never take it away from him. 

And another picture on the wall at Lynah!


And another shout out to Malinski by Elliotte Friedman suggesting that the Avs may be locking him up long term. Go Sam!
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on December 01, 2025, 02:40:57 PM
Quote from: arugula on December 01, 2025, 12:00:40 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 28, 2025, 11:30:30 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on November 28, 2025, 08:38:06 PM
Quote from: stereax on November 28, 2025, 04:29:57 PMMitchell getting his first NHL game! (https://x.com/NYIslanders/status/1994505955309166781?t=-r6lMFRE_4DvHIDv8vA2Ig&s=19)

NHLer Travis Mitchell.  Has a nice ring to it.  Can never take it away from him. 

And another picture on the wall at Lynah!


And another shout out to Malinski by Elliotte Friedman suggesting that the Avs may be locking him up long term. Go Sam!
Have y'all seen Malinski's microstat card? Because what the hell. (https://x.com/megangley/status/1994450976246566974?s=20)
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: coz on December 01, 2025, 06:31:23 PM
Sullivan Mack got his first pro goal (https://x.com/bisonhockeyECHL/status/1995254025516716238?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1995254025516716238%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=) yesterday.

Hopefully he can gain some momentum and have a good season for Bloomington. Pretty unlikely he gets called up to Hartford unless there's a trade with the amount of NHL contracts in front of him.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 01, 2025, 06:34:01 PM
Quote from: coz on December 01, 2025, 06:31:23 PMSullivan Mack got his first pro goal (https://x.com/bisonhockeyECHL/status/1995254025516716238?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1995254025516716238%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=) yesterday.

Hopefully he can gain some momentum and have a good season for Bloomington. Pretty unlikely he gets called up to Hartford unless there's a trade with the amount of NHL contracts in front of him.

Hartford is in Syracuse a week from Saturday.  We had hoped to see him.  Better to be playing in the ECHL than sitting.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Chris '03 on December 01, 2025, 08:49:34 PM
Brianne Jenner has 2g and 2a in Ottawa's win over Vancouver. She was named league player of the week. https://www.thepwhl.com/en/news/2025/december/01/pwhl-weekly-notebook-dec-1-2025#:~:text=JENNER%20TIES%20SINGLE%20GAME%20POINTS,over%20the%20Goldeneyes%20on%20Wednesday.

In the season opener, Micah Zandee-Hart (captain for new york) cross checked a player in the face/neck, was tossed, and later fined... $250.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: imafrshmn on December 02, 2025, 12:06:18 AM
The PWHL ladies have figured out that manufacturing a bit of extra drama helps their product. Good thing they have plenty of chirpy personalities in the league.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 04, 2025, 04:43:53 AM
Quote from: coz on December 01, 2025, 06:31:23 PMSullivan Mack got his first pro goal (https://x.com/bisonhockeyECHL/status/1995254025516716238?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1995254025516716238%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=) yesterday.


Back to back games now
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: BearLover on December 04, 2025, 12:34:07 PM
Bancroft has 0 points in 12 games in the AHL. He should try filing a petition with the NCAA to let him back into college. There are former pros playing on several other college teams. Under the "rule" that these pros must make minimum salary to remain college eligible, I believe he wouldn't qualify, but there are no rules as the NCAA is making it up as it goes along. Yes, I know this will never happen.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on December 04, 2025, 02:43:55 PM
Kent Manderville (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/3722/kent-manderville) was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG).  He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward. 

We do not know what Bancroft's expected role is.  Let's watch him develop and root for him to succeed and spread the good reputation of Cornell as a place to come to develop your skills.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Weder on December 04, 2025, 04:15:52 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 04, 2025, 02:43:55 PMKent Manderville (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/3722/kent-manderville) was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG).  He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward. 

We do not know what Bancroft's expected role is.  Let's watch him develop and root for him to succeed and spread the good reputation of Cornell as a place to come to develop your skills.

I forgot he played only two seasons at Cornell. He took a year off for Olympics training and just decided to go pro afterward, right?
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: ugarte on December 04, 2025, 05:25:50 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 04, 2025, 02:43:55 PMKent Manderville (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/3722/kent-manderville) was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG).  He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward. 
come on man ... manderville was scoring almost a point per game in the AHL by 22. it wasn't his role in the nhl but he didn't get to the league as a grinder.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on December 04, 2025, 05:54:12 PM
Suda's getting a PTO (https://x.com/AHLIslanders/status/1996633185707520165?t=TlqkTTjak3UrlfDF-5kbwg&s=19) with the AHL Isles!
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on December 04, 2025, 06:22:41 PM
Quote from: ugarte on December 04, 2025, 05:25:50 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 04, 2025, 02:43:55 PMKent Manderville (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/3722/kent-manderville) was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG).  He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward. 
come on man ... manderville was scoring almost a point per game in the AHL by 22. it wasn't his role in the nhl but he didn't get to the league as a grinder.
I don't agree with your larger point.  He was always at loggerheads with McCutcheon over being responsible defensively.  When he went to the Canadian Olympic team it was ironically there that he honed his abilities to play defense.  That got him to the Show, not his flash.  The high minors are awash with guys with long scoring careers who never get The Invitation because they did not round out their game.  It does your team no good to be 1.00 PPG and yet a -1 every night.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on December 04, 2025, 08:28:51 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 04, 2025, 06:22:41 PMThe high minors are awash with guys with long scoring careers who never get The Invitation because they did not round out their game.  It does your team no good to be 1.00 PPG and yet a -1 every night.
This exactly. Unless you're like, Fucking Elite (Ovechkin, PKane, etc) you need to be able to play without the puck. I can find defensively irresponsible wingers on most teams in the AHL and probably half the KHL too.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: BearLover on December 04, 2025, 09:51:13 PM
Playing well without the puck is a necessary, but far from sufficient, condition to making it in the NHL. Realistically, if Bancroft or anyone else wants to make it, they had better be taking care of the puck and contributing offensively also.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Dafatone on December 04, 2025, 09:53:20 PM
Every forward who has made the NHL from Cornell since I started following (starting with Moulson) has been defensively responsible.

Moulson himself is probably one of the lesser defenders we've gotten to the NHL, but he scored a bunch of NHL goals.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: ugarte on December 04, 2025, 11:55:24 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 04, 2025, 06:22:41 PM
Quote from: ugarte on December 04, 2025, 05:25:50 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 04, 2025, 02:43:55 PMKent Manderville (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/3722/kent-manderville) was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG).  He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward. 
come on man ... manderville was scoring almost a point per game in the AHL by 22. it wasn't his role in the nhl but he didn't get to the league as a grinder.
I don't agree with your larger point.  He was always at loggerheads with McCutcheon over being responsible defensively.  When he went to the Canadian Olympic team it was ironically there that he honed his abilities to play defense.  That got him to the Show, not his flash.  The high minors are awash with guys with long scoring careers who never get The Invitation because they did not round out their game.  It does your team no good to be 1.00 PPG and yet a -1 every night.
I'm not making the larger point you think i am. I'm saying that manderville is a bad example of a guy who was in the NHL despite not being a point producer. in the minors, when he had to earn his ticket to the show, he was scoring. he did also have to prove that he could round it his game but that means being more than a minor league scorer, not being someone who, against lesser competition, can't score.

I am not saying that Bancroft made a mistake in leaving (though it would be nice to have him) or that he's dunzo but I am saying that kent manderville is a terrible comp for a guy who isn't scoring in the AHL at 24 regardless of how well he is (or is not) playing defense. The best thing that can be said right now is that he hasn't been shipped down to the ECHL so he's probably doing something right.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: BearLover on December 05, 2025, 12:33:30 AM
Quote from: Dafatone on December 04, 2025, 09:53:20 PMEvery forward who has made the NHL from Cornell since I started following (starting with Moulson) has been defensively responsible.

Moulson himself is probably one of the lesser defenders we've gotten to the NHL, but he scored a bunch of NHL goals.
Yes, but like I said—-being defensively responsible is necessary, but not sufficient. The Cornellians who have made it to the NHL since Moulson put up a lot of points in the lower levels too. Moreover, a lot of qualities that make one a good a good defender, or reliable with the puck, also make one a good scorer: speed, hockey sense, quick passing. It's obviously way too early to say Bancroft made a mistake leaving, but he's going to need to start contributing offensively if he wants to have any shot of making it.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: The Rancor on December 05, 2025, 08:41:19 AM
I think Matt Moulson is underrated as an NHL player, and as a Cornell Alum- that said, being on a line with Johnny Tavares certainly helped his point total. FWIW they were also childhood friends.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on December 06, 2025, 03:56:25 PM
Watching the NY Sirens / Vancouver Goldeneyes game on Channel 9 in New York.  There's 5 Cornell alumnae on the rosters (Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill for NY.  Daniel and Chan for Vancouver).  The only one I haven't seen on the ice yet is O'Neill.  And Zandee-Hart was the interview in the 1st intermission.

3-0 Vancouver after 1.

Edit:  O'Neill is playing. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: David Harding on December 07, 2025, 01:37:43 AM
Cornell Club of Chicago had a quick meet and greet with Coach Cam Abbott before the Chicago Wolves - Milwaukee Admirals game this evening.  He and his family are settling in here. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: BearLover on December 07, 2025, 02:34:42 AM
Quote from: David Harding on December 07, 2025, 01:37:43 AMCornell Club of Chicago had a quick meet and greet with Coach Cam Abbott before the Chicago Wolves - Milwaukee Admirals game this evening.  He and his family are settling in here. 
Wonder if he would have been interested in the Cornell job if Casey hadn't gotten it.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 07, 2025, 08:14:34 AM
Matt Stienberg made his return to the AHL Colorado lineup Friday after almost two months.  He had 1+1.  He did not play last night.  I hope that at some point in his pro career he can put together a healthy stretch.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: The Rancor on December 08, 2025, 04:33:47 PM
Between Mike Garman, Cam Abbot and Topher Scott there's no shortage of Alumni future coaches. Are any others currently in coaching positions? (FWIW Topher isn't currently a coach, but he's still involved with player development and training)
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PM
Topher quit coaching.  Abbott's whole experience is in Europe.  Is Garman still at Notre Dame?  He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: David Harding on December 08, 2025, 05:48:33 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching.  Abbott's whole experience is in Europe.  Is Garman still at Notre Dame?  He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.
Abbott is in his second year as coach of the AHL Chicago Wolves, but it's all pro hockey.  I agree that Garman would likely be a better fit.  He's just in his first year as associate head coach at Notre Dame after 8 years with the Chicago Steel of the USHL.  We can give him some credit for having coached Ian Shane and Charlie Major. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: underskill on December 08, 2025, 06:30:16 PM
I think Abbott has his sites on the NHL. Would be to tough to make that jump from a non scholarship IVY.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: andyw2100 on December 08, 2025, 09:52:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching.  Abbott's whole experience is in Europe.  Is Garman still at Notre Dame?  He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.

You don't think Topher would get back into coaching to coach at his alma mater?

You may be right. I just hope you're wrong, and that we get to find out.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: BearLover on December 08, 2025, 10:04:12 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on December 08, 2025, 09:52:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching.  Abbott's whole experience is in Europe.  Is Garman still at Notre Dame?  He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.

You don't think Topher would get back into coaching to coach at his alma mater?

You may be right. I just hope you're wrong, and that we get to find out.
Topher hasn't even been an associate head coach in college. I don't think a head coaching job is in the cards for him. (Seems he isn't looking for that, either.) Abbott is now in his second year coaching the Chicago Wolves of the AHL.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: The Rancor on December 09, 2025, 09:26:51 AM
Quote from: andyw2100 on December 08, 2025, 09:52:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching.  Abbott's whole experience is in Europe.  Is Garman still at Notre Dame?  He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.

You don't think Topher would get back into coaching to coach at his alma mater?

You may be right. I just hope you're wrong, and that we get to find out.

Judging by the guests he has rolling through his podcast alone, he seems well connected and incredibly knowledgeable about the game and player development. Tons of ex collage and NHL/minor pros who are coaching now on all levels join him- and it would seem he's well respected and well positioned to go back behind the bench, should he want to.

Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: The Rancor on December 09, 2025, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching.  Abbott's whole experience is in Europe.  Is Garman still at Notre Dame?  He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.

Garman is in his first season at Notre Dame, after leaving the Chicago Steel kinda suddenly.  I know a young guy in Juniors who fully expected to play for him this season, and with the new coach, POS Scott Gomez, found himself without a team. (real recruiting drama!) He found his way to another Junior team and remains committed to Maine next season.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Beeeej on December 09, 2025, 09:49:22 AM
Quote from: The Rancor on December 09, 2025, 09:26:51 AM
Quote from: andyw2100 on December 08, 2025, 09:52:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching.  Abbott's whole experience is in Europe.  Is Garman still at Notre Dame?  He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.

You don't think Topher would get back into coaching to coach at his alma mater?

You may be right. I just hope you're wrong, and that we get to find out.

Judging by the guests he has rolling through his podcast alone, he seems well connected and incredibly knowledgeable about the game and player development. Tons of ex collage and NHL/minor pros who are coaching now on all levels join him- and it would seem he's well respected and well positioned to go back behind the bench, should he want to.

That's the big "should," though - he made it explicitly clear at the time he stopped coaching that it was because of the tremendous time and travel commitment. It wouldn't be easier to do that as head coach for a Div. I college team.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: marty on December 09, 2025, 10:05:12 AM
Quote from: Beeeej on December 09, 2025, 09:49:22 AM
Quote from: The Rancor on December 09, 2025, 09:26:51 AM
Quote from: andyw2100 on December 08, 2025, 09:52:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching.  Abbott's whole experience is in Europe.  Is Garman still at Notre Dame?  He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.

You don't think Topher would get back into coaching to coach at his alma mater?

You may be right. I just hope you're wrong, and that we get to find out.

Judging by the guests he has rolling through his podcast alone, he seems well connected and incredibly knowledgeable about the game and player development. Tons of ex collage and NHL/minor pros who are coaching now on all levels join him- and it would seem he's well respected and well positioned to go back behind the bench, should he want to.

That's the big "should," though - he made it explicitly clear at the time he stopped coaching that it was because of the tremendous time and travel commitment. It wouldn't be easier to do that as head coach for a Div. I college team.

I had the idea that the time commitment had to do with raising a family.  As children grow that could change.  But I'm not sure I am remembering correctly.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on December 09, 2025, 12:05:02 PM
Quote from: marty on December 09, 2025, 10:05:12 AM
Quote from: Beeeej on December 09, 2025, 09:49:22 AM
Quote from: The Rancor on December 09, 2025, 09:26:51 AM
Quote from: andyw2100 on December 08, 2025, 09:52:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching.  Abbott's whole experience is in Europe.  Is Garman still at Notre Dame?  He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.

You don't think Topher would get back into coaching to coach at his alma mater?

You may be right. I just hope you're wrong, and that we get to find out.

Judging by the guests he has rolling through his podcast alone, he seems well connected and incredibly knowledgeable about the game and player development. Tons of ex collage and NHL/minor pros who are coaching now on all levels join him- and it would seem he's well respected and well positioned to go back behind the bench, should he want to.

That's the big "should," though - he made it explicitly clear at the time he stopped coaching that it was because of the tremendous time and travel commitment. It wouldn't be easier to do that as head coach for a Div. I college team.

I had the idea that the time commitment had to do with raising a family.  As children grow that could change.  But I'm not sure I am remembering correctly.
You are remembering correctly, but I think once you're out you're not climbing the ladder for the big jobs anymore.

It all indicates he is not a single minded psycho, and you kinda hafta be for that job.  It eats your life.  If you are more mentally balanced, you don't do it.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on December 09, 2025, 12:08:06 PM
Quote from: The Rancor on December 09, 2025, 09:26:51 AMJudging by the guests he has rolling through his podcast alone
Oh neat.  I need to check this out.  Is it Cornell-focused?

Is it titled "Without A Doubt"?

Edit: The Hockey Think Tank.  It's targeted to youth hockey players and coaches and concerns technique and preparation.  Topher is so cool.  Both are the hosts are so smart.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 10, 2025, 08:46:15 AM
Sullivan Mack is now on a four game point streak (2+2). 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: David Harding on December 10, 2025, 12:26:09 PM
Quote from: David Harding on December 07, 2025, 01:37:43 AMCornell Club of Chicago had a quick meet and greet with Coach Cam Abbott before the Chicago Wolves - Milwaukee Admirals game this evening.  He and his family are settling in here. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Chris '03 on December 11, 2025, 12:25:09 PM

The PWHL is auctioning off a bunch of stuff, including (randomly) Rory Guilday's draft card.

https://therealest.com/item/2025-pwhl-draft-5th-pick-draft-selection-card-1st-round?fbclid=IwVERFWAOn3V9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEe4GYbSHhqgcrkBDMEN0d89al4gH9W7wRSZrNy24bQcaPgpArcOahA6M3FqeY_aem_x4fMNmuQlefl4r31yI8SKw
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on December 11, 2025, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: David Harding on December 10, 2025, 12:26:09 PM
Quote from: David Harding on December 07, 2025, 01:37:43 AMCornell Club of Chicago had a quick meet and greet with Coach Cam Abbott before the Chicago Wolves - Milwaukee Admirals game this evening.  He and his family are settling in here. 

Very nice! (sad we lost the pom pom emoji  🏆🎉📣🤸   )
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on December 11, 2025, 12:46:13 PM
Quote from: Chris '03 on December 11, 2025, 12:25:09 PMThe PWHL is auctioning off a bunch of stuff, including (randomly) Rory Guilday's draft card.

https://therealest.com/item/2025-pwhl-draft-5th-pick-draft-selection-card-1st-round?fbclid=IwVERFWAOn3V9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEe4GYbSHhqgcrkBDMEN0d89al4gH9W7wRSZrNy24bQcaPgpArcOahA6M3FqeY_aem_x4fMNmuQlefl4r31yI8SKw
And a puck. (https://therealest.com/item/2025-pwhl-draft-rory-guiliday-autographed-draft-puck-3) And a whole buncha neat stuff.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 11, 2025, 09:42:07 PM
Mitchell scored his first NHL goal tonight.  During an Islanders cycle he raced in off the bench and banged home a rebound off the end boards.  Way to go Travis!
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 11, 2025, 11:11:18 PM
Malinski scored tonight as well.  Terrific night for the Cornell D men alums
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: sah67 on December 12, 2025, 07:53:29 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on December 11, 2025, 11:11:18 PMMalinski scored tonight as well.  Terrific night for the Cornell D men alums

Barron scored as well, ending a 20-game drought for him, and making it a Cornell alum "hat trick" night!
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 12, 2025, 07:56:36 AM
Has the school ever had three former players score NHL goals on the same night?
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on December 12, 2025, 07:56:36 AMHas the school ever had three former players score NHL goals on the same night?

Wouldn't shock me (especially if it fell during Nieuwendyk's career), but I'm not even sure how one would go about researching it.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Jim Hyla on December 12, 2025, 09:47:39 AM
Here's all 3

Mitchell (https://www.nhl.com/islanders/video/ana-nyi-mitchell-scores-goal-against-ville-husso-6386351168112)

Malinski  (https://sports.yahoo.com/videos/sam-malinski-goal-vs-florida-025658445.html)

Barron (https://sports.yahoo.com/videos/morgan-barron-goal-vs-boston-012211139.html)
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 09:48:48 AM
I suspect not.  http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html

Best bet was probably 2016 (Moulson 8, Greening 7, Nash 9).  Then 2002 (Nieuwendyk 25, Manderville 3, Chartrand 7).  Then 2003 (Nieuwendyk 17, Manderville 3, Chartrand 8 ).

I think we would remember if it was 2024 (MacDonald 7, Barron 11, Malinski 3).

IINM in no other season have there been 3 different Cornell goal scorers.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 10:01:30 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 09:48:48 AMI suspect not.  http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html

Best bet was probably 2016 (Moulson 8, Greening 7, Nash 9).  Then 2002 (Nieuwendyk 25, Manderville 3, Chartrand 7).  Then 2003 (Nieuwendyk 17, Manderville 3, Chartrand 8 ).

I think we would remember if it was 2024 (MacDonald 7, Barron 11, Malinski 3).

IINM in no other season have there been 3 different Cornell goal scorers.

So you'd best best off checking the dates of each goal for the player of the three who scored the fewest goals in each of those years, then check the other two players' stats for those dates. A total of sixteen dates to check (max - assuming that the lowest goal scorer of the three had no multi-goal nights).
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Jim Hyla on December 12, 2025, 10:12:40 AM
Quote from: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 10:01:30 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 09:48:48 AMI suspect not.  http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html

Best bet was probably 2016 (Moulson 8, Greening 7, Nash 9).  Then 2002 (Nieuwendyk 25, Manderville 3, Chartrand 7).  Then 2003 (Nieuwendyk 17, Manderville 3, Chartrand 8 ).

I think we would remember if it was 2024 (MacDonald 7, Barron 11, Malinski 3).

IINM in no other season have there been 3 different Cornell goal scorers.

So you'd best best off checking the dates of each goal for the player of the three who scored the fewest goals in each of those years, then check the other two players' stats for those dates. A total of sixteen dates to check (max - assuming that the lowest goal scorer of the three had no multi-goal nights).

So, go for it!  :D
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 10:14:38 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla on December 12, 2025, 10:12:40 AM
Quote from: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 10:01:30 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 09:48:48 AMI suspect not.  http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html

Best bet was probably 2016 (Moulson 8, Greening 7, Nash 9).  Then 2002 (Nieuwendyk 25, Manderville 3, Chartrand 7).  Then 2003 (Nieuwendyk 17, Manderville 3, Chartrand 8 ).

I think we would remember if it was 2024 (MacDonald 7, Barron 11, Malinski 3).

IINM in no other season have there been 3 different Cornell goal scorers.

So you'd best best off checking the dates of each goal for the player of the three who scored the fewest goals in each of those years, then check the other two players' stats for those dates. A total of sixteen dates to check (max - assuming that the lowest goal scorer of the three had no multi-goal nights).

So, go for it!  :D

I used up all my spare time for today on clearing spam, replying to Greg's post, and watching last night's three goals. Too much job, toddler, estate, finances, and laundry for a research project. Can't wait for retirement!  ;D
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: scoop85 on December 12, 2025, 11:05:50 AM
Interesting that Barron's goal was on the PP. Winnipeg must have shaken things up to get out of their rut.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: sah67 on December 12, 2025, 12:24:45 PM
Quote from: scoop85 on December 12, 2025, 11:05:50 AMInteresting that Barron's goal was on the PP. Winnipeg must have shaken things up to get out of their rut.

Box score shows Barron scoring ~30 seconds after the Boston penalty expired, so it wasn't a PPG.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: sah67 on December 12, 2025, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 09:48:48 AMI suspect not.  http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html

Best bet was probably 2016 (Moulson 8, Greening 7, Nash 9).  Then 2002 (Nieuwendyk 25, Manderville 3, Chartrand 7).  Then 2003 (Nieuwendyk 17, Manderville 3, Chartrand 8 ).

I think we would remember if it was 2024 (MacDonald 7, Barron 11, Malinski 3).

IINM in no other season have there been 3 different Cornell goal scorers.

2008-09: Moulson had 1, Sawada had 1, and Bitz had 4.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on December 12, 2025, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: scoop85 on December 12, 2025, 11:05:50 AMInteresting that Barron's goal was on the PP. Winnipeg must have shaken things up to get out of their rut.
They... lost to the Bruins. Lol
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 12:46:37 PM
Quote from: sah67 on December 12, 2025, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 09:48:48 AMI suspect not.  http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html

Best bet was probably 2016 (Moulson 8, Greening 7, Nash 9).  Then 2002 (Nieuwendyk 25, Manderville 3, Chartrand 7).  Then 2003 (Nieuwendyk 17, Manderville 3, Chartrand 8 ).

I think we would remember if it was 2024 (MacDonald 7, Barron 11, Malinski 3).

IINM in no other season have there been 3 different Cornell goal scorers.

2008-09: Moulson had 1, Sawada had 1, and Bitz had 4.

Would be pretty funny if that turns out to be the year.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: sah67 on December 12, 2025, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 12:46:37 PM
Quote from: sah67 on December 12, 2025, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 09:48:48 AMI suspect not.  http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html

Best bet was probably 2016 (Moulson 8, Greening 7, Nash 9).  Then 2002 (Nieuwendyk 25, Manderville 3, Chartrand 7).  Then 2003 (Nieuwendyk 17, Manderville 3, Chartrand 8 ).

I think we would remember if it was 2024 (MacDonald 7, Barron 11, Malinski 3).

IINM in no other season have there been 3 different Cornell goal scorers.

2008-09: Moulson had 1, Sawada had 1, and Bitz had 4.

Would be pretty funny if that turns out to be the year.

That was also the season of the famous "We want Bitz!"chant echoing through TD Garden during a Bruins blowout where Bitz had two goals and the crowd wanted him back on the ice for a hat trick bid:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tfEfDfJsbgQ

I imagine that has to be a career-defining moment for Byron.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 01:14:43 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 10:14:38 AMI used up all my spare time for today on clearing spam, replying to Greg's post, and watching last night's three goals. Too much job, toddler, estate, finances, and laundry for a research project. Can't wait for retirement!  ;D

Four of those things are lower priority than hockey.  I'll admit laundry goes first.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Jim Hyla on December 12, 2025, 04:32:35 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 01:14:43 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 10:14:38 AMI used up all my spare time for today on clearing spam, replying to Greg's post, and watching last night's three goals. Too much job, toddler, estate, finances, and laundry for a research project. Can't wait for retirement!  ;D

Four of those things are lower priority than hockey.  I'll admit laundry goes first.

Yeah, but you can do other things while waiting on laundry. So that doesn't count.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 08:10:53 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla on December 12, 2025, 04:32:35 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 01:14:43 PM
Quote from: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 10:14:38 AMI used up all my spare time for today on clearing spam, replying to Greg's post, and watching last night's three goals. Too much job, toddler, estate, finances, and laundry for a research project. Can't wait for retirement!  ;D

Four of those things are lower priority than hockey.  I'll admit laundry goes first.

Yeah, but you can do other things while waiting on laundry. So that doesn't count.
QFT
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: sah67 on December 13, 2025, 11:14:23 PM
Barron had another goal tonight and Malinski has an assist in a game that's still underway.

Sam's scoring output is now up to 3G 15A  in 32GP, which is already well ahead of his 5G 10A production in 76GP last season. He's now the second highest scoring defenseman on the Avs, and among the top 7 scorers overall.

In other alum scoring news: Ben Berard is the leading scorer (6G, 9A) on a bottom-of-the-barrel Abbotsford team that has only scored 49G in 25 games so far this season in the AHL.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on December 13, 2025, 11:54:22 PM
Quote from: sah67 on December 13, 2025, 11:14:23 PMIn other alum scoring news: Ben Berard is the leading scorer (6G, 9A) on a bottom-of-the-barrel Abbotsford team that has only scored 49G in 25 games so far this season in the AHL.

TIL.  I thought Abbotsford was a juniors team.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 14, 2025, 09:39:45 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 13, 2025, 11:54:22 PM
Quote from: sah67 on December 13, 2025, 11:14:23 PMIn other alum scoring news: Ben Berard is the leading scorer (6G, 9A) on a bottom-of-the-barrel Abbotsford team that has only scored 49G in 25 games so far this season in the AHL.

TIL.  I thought Abbotsford was a juniors team.

Plus Berard is a BC native so he's playing a few hours from where he was born. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on December 16, 2025, 10:32:01 PM
Katie Chan gets her first PWHL goal! (https://x.com/LachInTheCrease/status/2001130471216820724?t=ntEiBHrq7yM--QGW_P4f1w&s=19)
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 18, 2025, 04:43:14 AM
Mack has been on a tear since he broke through with his first pro goal.  Twelve points in his last nine games including a two goal game on Saturday and multi point games in four of his last five.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 18, 2025, 04:47:11 AM
O'Leary had a two goal game last night.  He is on a seven game point streak (4g+5a).
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: arugula on December 18, 2025, 10:15:31 AM
Isles sent down Mitchell
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: scoop85 on December 18, 2025, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: arugula on December 18, 2025, 10:15:31 AMIsles sent down Mitchell

Too bad. He seemed to play well at the NHL level.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on December 18, 2025, 06:48:09 PM
He'll be back.

(https://static0.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/arnold-schwarzenegger-i-ll-be-back-1200-x-630.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=825&dpr=1.5)
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 18, 2025, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: scoop85 on December 18, 2025, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: arugula on December 18, 2025, 10:15:31 AMIsles sent down Mitchell

Too bad. He seemed to play well at the NHL level.

The article that I read said that if he plays one more NHL game they have to put him on waivers to send him down.  The article also hinted that he could be back as soon as Saturday after he plays his mandatory AHL game Friday night
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: adamw on December 18, 2025, 07:25:07 PM
I went back to make sure because I'm surprised no one had mentioned this - if I am still missing it, I apologize. But Cam Abbott was fired as Chicago Wolves coach last week. Apparently he is staying in the org in some capacity.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on December 19, 2025, 07:28:12 AM
Quote from: adamw on December 18, 2025, 07:25:07 PMI went back to make sure because I'm surprised no one had mentioned this - if I am still missing it, I apologize. But Cam Abbott was fired as Chicago Wolves coach last week. Apparently he is staying in the org in some capacity.
Heard about that but didn't know he was a Cornell alum.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Beeeej on December 19, 2025, 08:46:30 AM
Quote from: stereax on December 19, 2025, 07:28:12 AM
Quote from: adamw on December 18, 2025, 07:25:07 PMI went back to make sure because I'm surprised no one had mentioned this - if I am still missing it, I apologize. But Cam Abbott was fired as Chicago Wolves coach last week. Apparently he is staying in the org in some capacity.
Heard about that but didn't know he was a Cornell alum.

Dig around the eLynah archives a bit - there have been some wonderful stories linked about how he and his brother Chris (also an alum) teamed up as GM/coach for a European team. Just one of a number of great stories about sets of twins who've played for Cornell, particularly for Schafer - e.g., Matt and Mark McRae, who were both excellent players but went directly from college to med school, and one of them now does reconstructive plastic surgery, frequently pro bono.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: The Rancor on December 19, 2025, 10:05:52 AM
Quote from: adamw on December 18, 2025, 07:25:07 PMI went back to make sure because I'm surprised no one had mentioned this - if I am still missing it, I apologize. But Cam Abbott was fired as Chicago Wolves coach last week. Apparently he is staying in the org in some capacity.
I completely missed this, thanks Adam.

Looks like, from Reddit, that he's staying on in Player Development with the Hurricanes, Chris is also with the Canes in this capacity.
Hard to say what happened, Wolves fans are confused. The theory is some sort of clash between the independently run Wolves and their NHL affiliate the Hurricanes. I don't understand the arrangement, but seems Cam got caught in the middle somewhere and the Canes like him, or his brother, enough that they are keeping him. Best of luck to the Abbots. Chicago has been rough this year on Cornell Hockey Alumni.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on December 19, 2025, 07:49:34 PM
Watching the Lehigh Valley - Bridgeport game tonight.  Travis Mitchell seems to be getting a lot of ice time.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 20, 2025, 12:27:24 AM
Barron scored a short handed goal.  Three goals in his last five games.  He beat Makar at the far blue line and finished a pretty nice backhander at top speed. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: sah67 on December 20, 2025, 09:12:31 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on December 20, 2025, 12:27:24 AMBarron scored a short handed goal.  Three goals in his last five games.  He beat Makar at the far blue line and finished a pretty nice backhander at top speed. 

Another great individual effort, similar to the other shorty he scored early in the season
https://www.nhl.com/jets/video/wpg-col-barron-scores-shg-against-scott-wedgewood-6386736293112
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: sah67 on December 21, 2025, 10:53:46 PM
Barron's hot streak continued as he scored the tying goal to bring Winnipeg back from a 3-0 deficit, but Utah ended up winning the game in OT.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 22, 2025, 05:15:25 AM
Quote from: sah67 on December 21, 2025, 10:53:46 PMBarron's hot streak continued as he scored the tying goal to bring Winnipeg back from a 3-0 deficit, but Utah ended up winning the game in OT.

So many of his goals look the same.  Speed and then finish.  Not much greasy about how he gets his.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 22, 2025, 10:04:06 PM
The ECHL players are on the verge of going on strike.  The are quite a few former Cornell guys this would affect
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on December 23, 2025, 04:59:19 AM
ECHL labor issues (https://apnews.com/article/echl-player-strike-cc97bfca11f8572a5809f48bbcfbb632).


Quote"Consistently in the last six or eight weeks, teams trying to intimidate and bully our members, threaten our members with their jobs, with their housing, with their work visas if they're from out of country — different tactics like that," Ramsay said.

So, the usual intimidation.  Nice to see players fighting back for once, though in this environment I half expect ICE raids.

Which... well it would be fun to see Meal Team 6 try to rough up hockey players rather than infants and expectant mothers.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Beeeej on December 23, 2025, 09:15:23 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on December 22, 2025, 05:15:25 AM
Quote from: sah67 on December 21, 2025, 10:53:46 PMBarron's hot streak continued as he scored the tying goal to bring Winnipeg back from a 3-0 deficit, but Utah ended up winning the game in OT.

So many of his goals look the same.  Speed and then finish.  Not much greasy about how he gets his.

https://www.nhl.com/video/wpg-uta-barron-scores-goal-against-karel-vejmelka-6386809334112
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on December 23, 2025, 10:38:30 AM
Shane got traded to the Reading Royals (https://x.com/kc_mavericks/status/2003239500257067329?t=sYGsT6_UgwskLnljyBrNvA&s=19).
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on December 23, 2025, 12:38:14 PM
Quote from: stereax on December 23, 2025, 10:38:30 AMShane got traded to the Reading Royals (https://x.com/kc_mavericks/status/2003239500257067329?t=sYGsT6_UgwskLnljyBrNvA&s=19).

Excellent.  That puts him in the Flyers organization.  Hopefully he'll get to play some time in Lehigh Valley and I can watch him on TV.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on December 23, 2025, 01:44:28 PM
PHPA-ECHL negotiations collapse, we're going to unpaid overtime (https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/its-official-echl-players-walk-out-over-unfair-bargaining-and-dangerous-conditions).

QuoteIt's official, the PHPA (Professional Hockey Players Association) has notified the ECHL that its players will go on strike effective December 26th.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: fastforward on December 26, 2025, 04:34:21 PM
UPDATE: the Hartford Wolf Pack has recalled forwards Sullivan Mack and Zakary Karpa from loan to ECHL Bloomington.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 26, 2025, 05:42:08 PM
Quote from: fastforward on December 26, 2025, 04:34:21 PMUPDATE: the Hartford Wolf Pack has recalled forwards Sullivan Mack and Zakary Karpa from loan to ECHL Bloomington.

That's a good way around the strike. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on December 26, 2025, 07:13:31 PM
Sucks for whoever they sent down, though.  "In case you were wondering what the organization thinks of you, ..."
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on December 27, 2025, 12:58:39 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 26, 2025, 07:13:31 PMSucks for whoever they sent down, though.  "In case you were wondering what the organization thinks of you, ..."
They didn't send anyone down. I think a couple of teams recalled their guys with AHL contracts to have them playing/training in the A and avoiding the strike?
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Chris '03 on December 27, 2025, 03:31:15 PM
Jenner with two goals in the shootout was first star for Ottawa this afternoon;
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSx5uUKEoAF/?igsh=NTgxMGhsdnY3ZTdm
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: sah67 on December 28, 2025, 07:03:54 AM
Malinski had 3 assists as the Avs clawed their way back against Vegas to win in a shootout.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on December 28, 2025, 10:52:21 AM
Berard scored both of Abbotsford's goals last night in a 3-2 loss
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: sah67 on January 01, 2026, 12:10:36 AM
A signature Malinski blue line shake-and-bake to set up Nichushkin for the hat trick: https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=47468654
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: sah67 on January 01, 2026, 09:55:15 PM
Malott returned to the Kings' lineup and scored his third of the season in a loss to Tampa: https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=47476217
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AM
Rory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?

Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on January 02, 2026, 10:03:22 AM
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?

Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.
HELL YEAH.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?

Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.

Guilday played in the Rivalry Series, so it's not that surprising, but still great news.

Based on Canada's roster in the Rivalry Series I'd expect Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill should be on the olympic roster.  Maybe Jenner.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Weder on January 02, 2026, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?

Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.

Guilday played in the Rivalry Series, so it's not that surprising, but still great news.

Based on Canada's roster in the Rivalry Series I'd expect Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill should be on the olympic roster.  Maybe Jenner.

THN projects (https://thehockeynews.com/womens/international/projecting-canada-s-final-olympic-women-s-hockey-roster#google_vignette) Jenner and O'Neill on the roster.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 09:06:08 PM
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?

Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.

Guilday played in the Rivalry Series, so it's not that surprising, but still great news.

Based on Canada's roster in the Rivalry Series I'd expect Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill should be on the olympic roster.  Maybe Jenner.

THN projects (https://thehockeynews.com/womens/international/projecting-canada-s-final-olympic-women-s-hockey-roster#google_vignette) Jenner and O'Neill on the roster.

Interesting.  Bourbonnais not even in the discussion.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on January 02, 2026, 10:06:50 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 09:06:08 PM
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?

Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.

Guilday played in the Rivalry Series, so it's not that surprising, but still great news.

Based on Canada's roster in the Rivalry Series I'd expect Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill should be on the olympic roster.  Maybe Jenner.

THN projects (https://thehockeynews.com/womens/international/projecting-canada-s-final-olympic-women-s-hockey-roster#google_vignette) Jenner and O'Neill on the roster.

Interesting.  Bourbonnais not even in the discussion.
Hasn't had a great start to her PWHL season, no?
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: sah67 on January 02, 2026, 11:30:57 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 02, 2026, 10:06:50 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 09:06:08 PM
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?

Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.

Guilday played in the Rivalry Series, so it's not that surprising, but still great news.

Based on Canada's roster in the Rivalry Series I'd expect Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill should be on the olympic roster.  Maybe Jenner.

THN projects (https://thehockeynews.com/womens/international/projecting-canada-s-final-olympic-women-s-hockey-roster#google_vignette) Jenner and O'Neill on the roster.

Interesting.  Bourbonnais not even in the discussion.
Hasn't had a great start to her PWHL season, no?

We were at the Sirens-Victoire game earlier today and Bourbonnais was really not that noticeable on the ice. She does apparently have 4 points over her last 3 games though.

O'Neill, on the other hand, was a total spitfire out there and in addition to scoring a nice goal after a bad giveway by the Montreal goalie, seemed to dominate nearly all of the faceoffs she took.

It was also fun to see a former nemesis (Kaltounkova from Colgate) playing alongside Cornell alums for the Sirens. She has a wicked one-timer that she loves to fire away with from the faceoff dot, Ovechkin-style, and she still plays with a bit of that nasty edge that earned her more than a few game misconducts at 'Gate.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on January 03, 2026, 09:31:06 AM
Quote from: sah67 on January 02, 2026, 11:30:57 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 02, 2026, 10:06:50 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 09:06:08 PM
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?

Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.

Guilday played in the Rivalry Series, so it's not that surprising, but still great news.

Based on Canada's roster in the Rivalry Series I'd expect Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill should be on the olympic roster.  Maybe Jenner.

THN projects (https://thehockeynews.com/womens/international/projecting-canada-s-final-olympic-women-s-hockey-roster#google_vignette) Jenner and O'Neill on the roster.

Interesting.  Bourbonnais not even in the discussion.
Hasn't had a great start to her PWHL season, no?

We were at the Sirens-Victoire game earlier today and Bourbonnais was really not that noticeable on the ice. She does apparently have 4 points over her last 3 games though.

O'Neill, on the other hand, was a total spitfire out there and in addition to scoring a nice goal after a bad giveway by the Montreal goalie, seemed to dominate nearly all of the faceoffs she took.

It was also fun to see a former nemesis (Kaltounkova from Colgate) playing alongside Cornell alums for the Sirens. She has a wicked one-timer that she loves to fire away with from the faceoff dot, Ovechkin-style, and she still plays with a bit of that nasty edge that earned her more than a few game misconducts at 'Gate.

Couple friends and I are running a PWHL fantasy league off Google Sheets (why yes, we ARE nerds). I just picked up Bourbonnais off waivers... pretty sure she had a good game in the Casey O'Brien hat trick game, but hasn't been doing a ton outside that.

Guilday is carrying my team to any sort of relevance. Still 0-3 so far XD.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on January 04, 2026, 05:00:04 AM
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?

Hmm.

Parris Duffus and Doug McKee played for the US in the Worlds.  Jean-Marc Pelletier, Andy Iles, and Cole Bardreau played for the US in the WJC.  Ryan Walsh played for the US in the Spengler Cup.  But... yeah. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Chris '03 on January 09, 2026, 09:09:18 AM
Feature on Rory Guilday:
https://facesmag.ca/rory-guildays-inspiring-road-to-pwhl-stardom-in-ottawa/
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: imafrshmn on January 09, 2026, 04:26:00 PM
Kristin O'Neill and Brianne Jenner named to the Canadian team. This will be O'Neill's first olympics and Jenner's fourth.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on January 12, 2026, 07:24:48 AM
Suda has been on a nice run with Worcester in the ECHL.  Fifteen points in his last fourteen games.  He even had a one day recall to Bridgeport when they played in Utica but he was a scratch
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on January 12, 2026, 08:41:39 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on January 12, 2026, 07:24:48 AMSuda has been on a nice run with Worcester in the ECHL.  Fifteen points in his last fourteen games.  He even had a one day recall to Bridgeport when they played in Utica but he was a scratch
Love to see that.  Suda was more valuable than we knew.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on January 12, 2026, 08:42:23 AM
Quote from: imafrshmn on January 09, 2026, 04:26:00 PMThis will be O'Neill's first olympics and Jenner's fourth.

Wow!

Brief news release from CU:  https://cornellbigred.com/news/2026/1/9/womens-ice-hockey-cornell-2026-canadian-olympic-roster-selections.aspx
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: ugarte on January 12, 2026, 12:46:25 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 12, 2026, 08:41:39 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on January 12, 2026, 07:24:48 AMSuda has been on a nice run with Worcester in the ECHL.  Fifteen points in his last fourteen games.  He even had a one day recall to Bridgeport when they played in Utica but he was a scratch
Love to see that.  Suda was more valuable than we knew.
He was a fantastic defensive defenseman but when he scored a goal I assumed he was aiming at something else since his shots usually didn't requires saves
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on January 12, 2026, 12:51:44 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 12, 2026, 12:46:25 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 12, 2026, 08:41:39 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on January 12, 2026, 07:24:48 AMSuda has been on a nice run with Worcester in the ECHL.  Fifteen points in his last fourteen games.  He even had a one day recall to Bridgeport when they played in Utica but he was a scratch
Love to see that.  Suda was more valuable than we knew.
He was a fantastic defensive defenseman but when he scored a goal I assumed he was aiming at something else since his shots usually didn't requires saves
Don't do the man like THAT 😭
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: ugarte on January 12, 2026, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 12, 2026, 12:51:44 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 12, 2026, 12:46:25 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 12, 2026, 08:41:39 AM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on January 12, 2026, 07:24:48 AMSuda has been on a nice run with Worcester in the ECHL.  Fifteen points in his last fourteen games.  He even had a one day recall to Bridgeport when they played in Utica but he was a scratch
Love to see that.  Suda was more valuable than we knew.
He was a fantastic defensive defenseman but when he scored a goal I assumed he was aiming at something else since his shots usually didn't requires saves
Don't do the man like THAT 😭
It's ok he taught Fegaras everything he knows.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: BearLover on January 15, 2026, 11:12:11 AM
Dalton Bancroft has 1 assist and 0 goals through 21 AHL games. Anybody considering departing Cornell for the pros prior to graduation really needs to take a look at the track record of players who have done so (Angello, Ferlin, etc.). So few make it to a full-time NHLer, and the few who do surely could have just as well made it after their senior year. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 01:21:29 AM
I think players leave early due to the risk of injury.  The extra year of development is not worth the risk that on any shift it can all be taken away.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on January 16, 2026, 01:52:20 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 01:21:29 AMI think players leave early due to the risk of injury.  The extra year of development is not worth the risk that on any shift it can all be taken away.
I mean, wasn't there that one junior a few years back who fucked himself up bad enough (I think in practice) that he quit the team because he wouldn't be able to play again?
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: BlueSky on January 16, 2026, 07:24:57 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 01:21:29 AMI think players leave early due to the risk of injury.  The extra year of development is not worth the risk that on any shift it can all be taken away.

In reality, there are so few actual spots in the League. Sam M is crushing it, as is Morgan B....not many! Now that the NCAA is a complete crap show, maybe Dalton could return...it sounds so stupid to type it, but it's the new reality!
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: The Rancor on January 16, 2026, 09:34:42 AM
The skill level just to suit up as a pro is so insanely high, and the difference between NHL and ECHL is closer than you think. Having been on the ice with an ECHL/3 v 3 league pro (and all star) who had a stint in the AHL, I can assure you these are elite level super-humans. Would he have been 3 inches taller...
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: dag14 on January 17, 2026, 02:24:13 PM
I know at least one player who left because his family needed money sooner rather than later. Yes, he may have had a better/longer pro career if he had stayed another year, but as others have noted, there are no guarantees. He did return to school when he finished playing.

My point is that those of us in the peanut gallery are not usually well enough informed to second guess these decisions. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 02:39:19 PM
The odds of making the NHL for all but the top prospects is so small. If you are a longshot, and I'd say Bancroft was a quality college forward but an NHL longshot, I doubt the extra year in college  provides enough development to overcome the signing bonus and injury risk. If you want a signing bonus that covers more than bus fare to training camp you better sign before you're out of eligibility.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 02:41:47 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 02:39:19 PMThe odds of making the NHL for all but the top prospects is so small. If you are a longshot, and I'd say Bancroft was a quality college forward but an NHL longshot, I doubt the extra year in college  provides enough development to overcome the signing bonus and injury risk. If you want a signing bonus that covers more than bus fare to training camp you better sign before you're out of eligibility.
Why would the signing bonus be materially less after your senior year
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: andyw2100 on January 17, 2026, 02:50:20 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 02:41:47 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 02:39:19 PMThe odds of making the NHL for all but the top prospects is so small. If you are a longshot, and I'd say Bancroft was a quality college forward but an NHL longshot, I doubt the extra year in college  provides enough development to overcome the signing bonus and injury risk. If you want a signing bonus that covers more than bus fare to training camp you better sign before you're out of eligibility.
Why would the signing bonus be materially less after your senior year

I'm not at all knowledgeable about this area, but I'll take a shot at answering.

I'm guessing the signing bonus, which is an added incentive to get someone to give up college hockey and, at least for the time-being, college too, may not be necessary once those things are completed and thus are no longer things that need to be given up.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 03:30:34 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 17, 2026, 02:50:20 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 02:41:47 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 02:39:19 PMThe odds of making the NHL for all but the top prospects is so small. If you are a longshot, and I'd say Bancroft was a quality college forward but an NHL longshot, I doubt the extra year in college  provides enough development to overcome the signing bonus and injury risk. If you want a signing bonus that covers more than bus fare to training camp you better sign before you're out of eligibility.
Why would the signing bonus be materially less after your senior year

I'm not at all knowledgeable about this area, but I'll take a shot at answering.

I'm guessing the signing bonus, which is an added incentive to get someone to give up college hockey and, at least for the time-being, college too, may not be necessary once those things are completed and thus are no longer things that need to be given up.
exactly. you have leverage if you can go back to college. people out of college eligibility can threaten to take a real estate licensing exam.

if you want evidence, take a look at the signing bonuses of college seniors in the MLB draft.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 03:30:34 PM
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 17, 2026, 02:50:20 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 02:41:47 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 02:39:19 PMThe odds of making the NHL for all but the top prospects is so small. If you are a longshot, and I'd say Bancroft was a quality college forward but an NHL longshot, I doubt the extra year in college  provides enough development to overcome the signing bonus and injury risk. If you want a signing bonus that covers more than bus fare to training camp you better sign before you're out of eligibility.
Why would the signing bonus be materially less after your senior year

I'm not at all knowledgeable about this area, but I'll take a shot at answering.

I'm guessing the signing bonus, which is an added incentive to get someone to give up college hockey and, at least for the time-being, college too, may not be necessary once those things are completed and thus are no longer things that need to be given up.
exactly. you have leverage if you can go back to college. people out of college eligibility can threaten to take a real estate licensing exam.

if you want evidence, take a look at the signing bonuses of college seniors in the MLB draft.
But the bonuses are mostly to outbid other NHL teams, not to sway the player away from returning by to college. It's Bruins versus Rangers, not Bruins versus Cornell. That dynamic doesn't change when the player becomes a senior. Bancroft's signing bonus was under 100K, btw, and that was with multiple NHL teams bidding for him.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 03:30:34 PMif you want evidence, take a look at the signing bonuses of college seniors in the MLB draft.
But the bonuses are mostly to outbid other NHL teams, not to sway the player away from returning by to college.
Citation needed. This is true for college seniors but not for anyone with eligibility remaining. It'll be even less true with NIL opportunities available.

Diego Pavia, to give an example, is worth much more to Vanderbilt than he will be to whoever takes him in the 6th round. 
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 03:30:34 PMif you want evidence, take a look at the signing bonuses of college seniors in the MLB draft.
But the bonuses are mostly to outbid other NHL teams, not to sway the player away from returning by to college.
Citation needed. This is true for college seniors but not for anyone with eligibility remaining. It'll be even less true with NIL opportunities available.

Diego Pavia, to give an example, is worth much more to Vanderbilt than he will be to whoever takes him in the 6th round. 
I only have anecdotal evidence, but for example Travis Mitchell (senior) got a bigger signing bonus than Bancroft despite having less NHL potential. (Actually it was the same per year amount but he got that bonus each of the two years he signed for, whereas Bancroft signed only for one year.)

I don't think NCAA football is a helpful comparison for many reasons.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on January 17, 2026, 04:29:34 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 03:30:34 PMif you want evidence, take a look at the signing bonuses of college seniors in the MLB draft.
But the bonuses are mostly to outbid other NHL teams, not to sway the player away from returning by to college.
Citation needed. This is true for college seniors but not for anyone with eligibility remaining. It'll be even less true with NIL opportunities available.

Diego Pavia, to give an example, is worth much more to Vanderbilt than he will be to whoever takes him in the 6th round. 
It's a bit of both.

Signing bonuses are limited to 10% of an ELC, if I'm not mistaken. Y'all keep forgetting that ELCs are HIGHLY regulated and regular. (Usually, you're going to see handshake deals, under-the-table stuff as well, though.)

But also, a team like last year's Bruins looked like you'd be able to get a chance at the NHL roster sooner rather than later. (Or sometimes, teams will just guarantee it if you're that good.) That's usually a strong factor. Compare, for example, Collin Graf (yuck) and the Sharks.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 04:45:49 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 04:19:21 PM... Diego Pavia, to give an example, is worth much more to Vanderbilt...
I don't think NCAA football is a helpful comparison for many reasons.
Ben Robertson might disagree that you discount the impact of NIL on college hockey. I just don't pay enough attention to non-Cornell college hockey to have relevant examples. 

QuoteI only have anecdotal evidence, but for example Travis Mitchell (senior) got a bigger signing bonus than Bancroft despite having less NHL potential. ...
The Travis Mitchell who had a cup of coffee with the Islanders? I think maybe the pro scouts evaluated their relative potential differently than you did.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 17, 2026, 04:49:42 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 03:30:34 PMif you want evidence, take a look at the signing bonuses of college seniors in the MLB draft.
But the bonuses are mostly to outbid other NHL teams, not to sway the player away from returning by to college.
Citation needed. This is true for college seniors but not for anyone with eligibility remaining. It'll be even less true with NIL opportunities available.

Diego Pavia, to give an example, is worth much more to Vanderbilt than he will be to whoever takes him in the 6th round. 
I only have anecdotal evidence, but for example Travis Mitchell (senior) got a bigger signing bonus than Bancroft despite having less NHL potential. (Actually it was the same per year amount but he got that bonus each of the two years he signed for, whereas Bancroft signed only for one year.)

I don't think NCAA football is a helpful comparison for many reasons.

Speaking of Mitchell, I got to see him play last night.  He didn't hit the scoreboard, but played competently.  I think he only played at even strength, not on special teams.  Bridgeport smacked the Phantoms around, but it was still fun being at the game.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 05:18:47 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 04:45:49 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 04:19:21 PM... Diego Pavia, to give an example, is worth much more to Vanderbilt...
I don't think NCAA football is a helpful comparison for many reasons.
Ben Robertson might disagree that you discount the impact of NIL on college hockey. I just don't pay enough attention to non-Cornell college hockey to have relevant examples. 

QuoteI only have anecdotal evidence, but for example Travis Mitchell (senior) got a bigger signing bonus than Bancroft despite having less NHL potential. ...
The Travis Mitchell who had a cup of coffee with the Islanders? I think maybe the pro scouts evaluated their relative potential differently than you did.
Reports were that there was a bigger demand for Bancroft. Yet, as a junior, Bancroft ended up with a smaller signing bonus.

I doubt Robertson is getting much/any NIL but that's beside the point. We're talking about Cornell players getting wooed by NHL teams. So the NIL aspect is immaterial. NHL teams don't have to outbid something that doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 05:24:02 PM
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 05:18:47 PMWe're talking about Cornell players getting wooed by NHL teams. So the NIL aspect is immaterial. NHL teams don't have to outbid something that doesn't exist.
NHL teams bidding for Cornell undergraduates are competing with the prospect of NIL at transfer schools! There are so many factors you just handwave.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: nmcorm83 on January 22, 2026, 08:59:25 AM
It's behind a paywall, but The Athletic has an article that puts Sam Malinski on the list of top 10 most improved players in the NHL.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: sah67 on January 22, 2026, 10:59:05 AM
Quote from: nmcorm83 on January 22, 2026, 08:59:25 AMIt's behind a paywall, but The Athletic has an article that puts Sam Malinski on the list of top 10 most improved players in the NHL.

Initially signed as an undrafted college free agent in 2023, Malinski has established himself as an indispensable middle-of-the-lineup piece on Colorado's blue line. It's taken time for Jared Bednar to fully trust Malinski because of his undersized 5-foot-11 frame, but his play has been so strong that he's emerging as one of the most underrated defensemen in the league.

Malinski is a dynamic, smooth-skating puck mover. He leads zone exits with ease and is a skilled enough puck carrier to also lead impressive plays through the neutral zone, which is a perfect fit for the speedy, high-octane way the Avs like to attack. He's breaking out offensively, on pace for 42 points despite receiving no power-play time. Malinski is tied with Jakob Chychrun for the 10th-most five-on-five points among defensemen this season. His two-way metrics are elite, and his average Game Score, according to Dom Luszczyszyn's model, rates him as one of this season's top 20 defensemen.

It may be tempting for outsiders to downplay Malinski's success as a product of playing with MacKinnon and on the best team in the NHL. However, only a small fraction of Malinski's ice time overlaps with MacKinnon. And if you specifically dive into Malinski's 539 five-on-five minutes away from MacKinnon, you'll realize he's crushing those assignments as he's earned nearly 60 percent of scoring chances and outscored opponents 23-14 away from No. 29.

With Devon Toews sidelined with injury lately, Malinski has capably played his off side next to Cale Makar on the top pair. The 27-year-old pending UFA has performed so well that there's a compelling argument for Colorado to extend Malinski in the summer and then trade Sam Girard, who is a bit redundant as an undersized puck-mover on a sizable $5 million cap hit, ahead of next season.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Snowball on January 22, 2026, 11:32:59 PM
Wow terrific!  One of my favorite all time Cornell players.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: imafrshmn on January 26, 2026, 11:40:01 AM
One of the all time best defenders with the women's team, Laura Fortino '13, will be at the Olympics representing Team Italy this year. Fortino represented Canada in the 2014 and 2018 games and seems to have been away from playing competitvely for a number of years. A wonderful athletic renaissance and story of family heritage.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Weder on January 26, 2026, 01:08:36 PM
Quote from: imafrshmn on January 26, 2026, 11:40:01 AMOne of the all time best defenders with the women's team, Laura Fortino '13, will be at the Olympics representing Team Italy this year. Fortino represented Canada in the 2014 and 2018 games and seems to have been away from playing competitvely for a number of years. A wonderful athletic renaissance and story of family heritage.

She's been playing a few games in Italy's pro league the past couple years, but will be great to see her in the Olympics again
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on January 26, 2026, 02:23:34 PM
Seger had the game winning goal Friday night for Grand Rapids.  It was short handed but only his third goal of the season.

Shane won his Reading debut on Saturday.  Not sure why it took so long to get him into a game after the trade?
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: arugula on January 26, 2026, 04:35:10 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on January 26, 2026, 02:23:34 PMSeger had the game winning goal Friday night for Grand Rapids.  It was short handed but only his third goal of the season.

Shane won his Reading debut on Saturday.  Not sure why it took so long to get him into a game after the trade?

Love Seger's game. I hope he can find the touch because everything else is super solid. Size, faceoffs, skating, smarts.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on January 27, 2026, 12:27:21 PM
MALINSKI 4X4.75 (https://x.com/puckreportnhl/status/2016201041721626836?s=46)
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Trotsky on January 27, 2026, 12:48:29 PM
Quote from: arugula on January 26, 2026, 04:35:10 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on January 26, 2026, 02:23:34 PMSeger had the game winning goal Friday night for Grand Rapids.  It was short handed but only his third goal of the season.

Shane won his Reading debut on Saturday.  Not sure why it took so long to get him into a game after the trade?

Love Seger's game. I hope he can find the touch because everything else is super solid. Size, faceoffs, skating, smarts.

Cornell head coach 2040.  I mean assuming anyone is still alive.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on January 27, 2026, 01:10:40 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 27, 2026, 12:27:21 PMMALINSKI 4X4.75 (https://x.com/puckreportnhl/status/2016201041721626836?s=46)

That is awesome.  He bet on himself by going to work with Greg Cronin in an organization full of blue line talent and in short order he has become indispensable
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on January 27, 2026, 01:15:56 PM
Quote from: VIEWfromK on January 27, 2026, 01:10:40 PM
Quote from: stereax on January 27, 2026, 12:27:21 PMMALINSKI 4X4.75 (https://x.com/puckreportnhl/status/2016201041721626836?s=46)

That is awesome.  He bet on himself by going to work with Greg Cronin in an organization full of blue line talent and in short order he has become indispensable
I'm so damn happy, dude.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: Weder on January 29, 2026, 03:51:24 PM
Was perusing the PWHL stats as they started their Olympics break. Brianne Jenner is top 5 in scoring and Rory Guilday is top 5 in points among D. Izzy Daniel starting to get going a bit with 4 G, 2A in her past 8 games.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: stereax on January 29, 2026, 03:54:37 PM
Quote from: Weder on January 29, 2026, 03:51:24 PMWas perusing the PWHL stats as they started their Olympics break. Brianne Jenner is top 5 in scoring and Rory Guilday is top 5 in points among D. Izzy Daniel starting to get going a bit with 4 G, 2A in her past 8 games.
Guilday has been a BEAST in the P-dub. And my PWHL fantasy.
Title: Re: Alumni in the pros 25-26
Post by: VIEWfromK on February 08, 2026, 07:19:22 PM
Sullivan Mack had two goals and was first star in the only upper level minor league game played today.