Malot is going to make the Kings opening night roster. Tim Rego was assigned to AHL Ontario today.
So last year we had:
Barron (Win), Malott (LA), Malinski (Col), Stienburg (Col). Mitchell, who I swear was on their roster, played in 0 games for the Islanders.
This year we break camp with Barron (Win), Malott (LA), and Malinski (Col). Bancroft (Bos), Stienburg (Col), Kempf (Col), Mack (NYR), Berard (Van), Rego (LA), Malone (NJ), Andreev (Bos), O'Leary (Win), Suda (Fla), Seger (Det), Shane (Sea), Penney (StL) and Mitchell (NYI) are in the minors. Bardreau, Kaldis, Weidner, and Psenicka are in Europe. Rauter is in Japan. Kovich and Robertson are with other NCAA schools. MacDonald (Col) is injured. I am not sure if Angello has retired.
http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9%E3%83%BB%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A6%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC
Kaldis is still in the KHL
Weidner is still in Germany
I heard last season that Gillam was playing in Sweden but I didn't find anything about where
Alex Rauter (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/169870/alex-rauter) in Japan.
Quote from: ACM on October 04, 2025, 08:31:46 AMAlex Rauter (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/169870/alex-rauter) in Japan.
Let's go Grits!!
Bancroft was sent down to Providence (AHL) several days ago.
Nice article about Malott here:
Jeff Malott is stronger, playing with more of an edge and more than deserving of his first Opening Night roster - LA Kings Insider https://share.google/dweNx17V4RHPB1MjE
Thank you both, updated! :-*
Quote from: VIEWfromK on October 04, 2025, 07:34:24 AMKaldis is still in the KHL
Weidner is still in Germany
I heard last season that Gillam was playing in Sweden but I didn't find anything about where
Starting his 4th season in Norway. Frisk Asker which seems like the wrong order.
Quote from: abmarks on October 04, 2025, 11:54:39 AMBancroft was sent down to Providence (AHL) several days ago.
Nice article about Malott here:
Jeff Malott is stronger, playing with more of an edge and more than deserving of his first Opening Night roster - LA Kings Insider https://share.google/dweNx17V4RHPB1MjE
I've always believed Malott had NHL ability, and I'm glad he's been able to prove that. Wishing him a great start to the season.
Quote from: abmarks on October 04, 2025, 11:54:39 AMBancroft was sent down to Providence (AHL) several days ago.
Nice article about Malott here:
Jeff Malott is stronger, playing with more of an edge and more than deserving of his first Opening Night roster - LA Kings Insider https://share.google/dweNx17V4RHPB1MjE
QuoteHis points have come in different ways in the exhibition season but Malott has been effective along the boards, making plays off the wall, forechecking with a purpose and keeping plays alive in the offensive zone. No better way to defend than to not have to play in the defensive zone and Malott has done well with that.
Wonder where he learned to play like that?
Quote from: Trotsky on October 04, 2025, 12:01:21 PMStarting his 4th season in Norway. Frisk Asker which seems like the wrong order.
Thank you! I only look on hockey-db and it doesn't list anything for him. Guess I'm too lazy to do a full internet search.
Quote from: VIEWfromK on October 04, 2025, 03:52:08 PMQuote from: Trotsky on October 04, 2025, 12:01:21 PMStarting his 4th season in Norway. Frisk Asker which seems like the wrong order.
Thank you! I only look on hockey-db and it doesn't list anything for him. Guess I'm too lazy to do a full internet search.
I have infinite free time.
Nice profile on Malinski from a Denver paper, focusing on his "switching sides" this season ahead of an expected pairing with Brent Burns.
https://www.denverpost.com/2025/10/02/sam-malinski-avalanche-left-side-defenseman/amp/
None of the players who went pro from last year's team are producing at all this season, including Bancroft (0 points in 9 AHL games). Amazing they were an OT goal, and maybe a few instances of the stomach flu, away from the frozen four.
I have noticed that too. It's disappointing.
Bancroft left college early for a team that seemed poised for a rebuild but instead went for stopgap players in the off-season. With prospects like Poitras and Lysell stuck in the minors it seems to have kept an undrafted free agent like Bancroft glued to the press box.
I still don't begrudge him for leaving early. As an older player he had to figure his time was now. I'm not counting him out but this isn't the first full pro season that he was hoping for.
During my fandom which starts in the mid 90s, Cornell has always been a greater than the sum of it's parts designed team. I always expect team success to overshadow individual success. Being an OT goal away from the Frozen Four was never a barometer for how Kempf, O'Leary, Bancroft, Suda, Penney, Psenicka, Rego, Mack or Shane would fare as professionals as far as I'm concerned.
It was The System (TM). 8)
Travis Mitchell recalled again to fill the Islanders open roster spot. Again he's not expected to play. Hopefully someday...
Quote from: VIEWfromK on November 26, 2025, 05:19:50 PMTravis Mitchell recalled again to fill the Islanders open roster spot. Again he's not expected to play. Hopefully someday...
At least he's getting paid full salary even in Bridgeport, not that it's much (at least as these things go - I'd be thrilled to be paid the same). I'd like to see him benefit from free agency next year but it's hard to see the potential for that without NHL playing time.
Malinski with his patented laser beam wrister to net his 2nd goal of the season last night:
https://www.nhl.com/video/sjs-col-malinski-scores-goal-against-yaroslav-askarov-6385636311112
Quote from: sah67 on November 27, 2025, 09:22:15 AMMalinski with his patented laser beam wrister to net his 2nd goal of the season last night:
https://www.nhl.com/video/sjs-col-malinski-scores-goal-against-yaroslav-askarov-6385636311112
And yet another Malinski shoutout by Elliotte Friedman on 32 thoughts.
Mitchell getting his first NHL game! (https://x.com/NYIslanders/status/1994505955309166781?t=-r6lMFRE_4DvHIDv8vA2Ig&s=19)
Quote from: stereax on November 28, 2025, 04:29:57 PMMitchell getting his first NHL game! (https://x.com/NYIslanders/status/1994505955309166781?t=-r6lMFRE_4DvHIDv8vA2Ig&s=19)
NHLer Travis Mitchell. Has a nice ring to it. Can never take it away from him.
Quote from: VIEWfromK on November 28, 2025, 08:38:06 PMQuote from: stereax on November 28, 2025, 04:29:57 PMMitchell getting his first NHL game! (https://x.com/NYIslanders/status/1994505955309166781?t=-r6lMFRE_4DvHIDv8vA2Ig&s=19)
NHLer Travis Mitchell. Has a nice ring to it. Can never take it away from him.
And another picture on the wall at Lynah!
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 28, 2025, 11:30:30 PMQuote from: VIEWfromK on November 28, 2025, 08:38:06 PMQuote from: stereax on November 28, 2025, 04:29:57 PMMitchell getting his first NHL game! (https://x.com/NYIslanders/status/1994505955309166781?t=-r6lMFRE_4DvHIDv8vA2Ig&s=19)
NHLer Travis Mitchell. Has a nice ring to it. Can never take it away from him.
And another picture on the wall at Lynah!
And another shout out to Malinski by Elliotte Friedman suggesting that the Avs may be locking him up long term. Go Sam!
Quote from: arugula on December 01, 2025, 12:00:40 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 28, 2025, 11:30:30 PMQuote from: VIEWfromK on November 28, 2025, 08:38:06 PMQuote from: stereax on November 28, 2025, 04:29:57 PMMitchell getting his first NHL game! (https://x.com/NYIslanders/status/1994505955309166781?t=-r6lMFRE_4DvHIDv8vA2Ig&s=19)
NHLer Travis Mitchell. Has a nice ring to it. Can never take it away from him.
And another picture on the wall at Lynah!
And another shout out to Malinski by Elliotte Friedman suggesting that the Avs may be locking him up long term. Go Sam!
Have y'all seen Malinski's microstat card? Because what the hell. (https://x.com/megangley/status/1994450976246566974?s=20)
Sullivan Mack got his first pro goal (https://x.com/bisonhockeyECHL/status/1995254025516716238?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1995254025516716238%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=) yesterday.
Hopefully he can gain some momentum and have a good season for Bloomington. Pretty unlikely he gets called up to Hartford unless there's a trade with the amount of NHL contracts in front of him.
Quote from: coz on December 01, 2025, 06:31:23 PMSullivan Mack got his first pro goal (https://x.com/bisonhockeyECHL/status/1995254025516716238?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1995254025516716238%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=) yesterday.
Hopefully he can gain some momentum and have a good season for Bloomington. Pretty unlikely he gets called up to Hartford unless there's a trade with the amount of NHL contracts in front of him.
Hartford is in Syracuse a week from Saturday. We had hoped to see him. Better to be playing in the ECHL than sitting.
Brianne Jenner has 2g and 2a in Ottawa's win over Vancouver. She was named league player of the week. https://www.thepwhl.com/en/news/2025/december/01/pwhl-weekly-notebook-dec-1-2025#:~:text=JENNER%20TIES%20SINGLE%20GAME%20POINTS,over%20the%20Goldeneyes%20on%20Wednesday.
In the season opener, Micah Zandee-Hart (captain for new york) cross checked a player in the face/neck, was tossed, and later fined... $250.
The PWHL ladies have figured out that manufacturing a bit of extra drama helps their product. Good thing they have plenty of chirpy personalities in the league.
Quote from: coz on December 01, 2025, 06:31:23 PMSullivan Mack got his first pro goal (https://x.com/bisonhockeyECHL/status/1995254025516716238?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1995254025516716238%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=) yesterday.
Back to back games now
Bancroft has 0 points in 12 games in the AHL. He should try filing a petition with the NCAA to let him back into college. There are former pros playing on several other college teams. Under the "rule" that these pros must make minimum salary to remain college eligible, I believe he wouldn't qualify, but there are no rules as the NCAA is making it up as it goes along. Yes, I know this will never happen.
Kent Manderville (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/3722/kent-manderville) was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG). He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward.
We do not know what Bancroft's expected role is. Let's watch him develop and root for him to succeed and spread the good reputation of Cornell as a place to come to develop your skills.
Quote from: Trotsky on December 04, 2025, 02:43:55 PMKent Manderville (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/3722/kent-manderville) was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG). He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward.
We do not know what Bancroft's expected role is. Let's watch him develop and root for him to succeed and spread the good reputation of Cornell as a place to come to develop your skills.
I forgot he played only two seasons at Cornell. He took a year off for Olympics training and just decided to go pro afterward, right?
Quote from: Trotsky on December 04, 2025, 02:43:55 PMKent Manderville (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/3722/kent-manderville) was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG). He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward.
come on man ... manderville was scoring almost a point per game in the AHL by 22. it wasn't his role in the nhl but he didn't get to the league as a grinder.
Suda's getting a PTO (https://x.com/AHLIslanders/status/1996633185707520165?t=TlqkTTjak3UrlfDF-5kbwg&s=19) with the AHL Isles!
Quote from: ugarte on December 04, 2025, 05:25:50 PMQuote from: Trotsky on December 04, 2025, 02:43:55 PMKent Manderville (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/3722/kent-manderville) was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG). He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward.
come on man ... manderville was scoring almost a point per game in the AHL by 22. it wasn't his role in the nhl but he didn't get to the league as a grinder.
I don't agree with your larger point. He was always at loggerheads with McCutcheon over being responsible defensively. When he went to the Canadian Olympic team it was ironically there that he honed his abilities to play defense.
That got him to the Show, not his flash. The high minors are awash with guys with long scoring careers who never get The Invitation because they did not round out their game. It does your team no good to be 1.00 PPG and yet a -1 every night.
Quote from: Trotsky on December 04, 2025, 06:22:41 PMThe high minors are awash with guys with long scoring careers who never get The Invitation because they did not round out their game. It does your team no good to be 1.00 PPG and yet a -1 every night.
This exactly. Unless you're like, Fucking Elite (Ovechkin, PKane, etc) you need to be able to play without the puck. I can find defensively irresponsible wingers on most teams in the AHL and probably half the KHL too.
Playing well without the puck is a necessary, but far from sufficient, condition to making it in the NHL. Realistically, if Bancroft or anyone else wants to make it, they had better be taking care of the puck and contributing offensively also.
Every forward who has made the NHL from Cornell since I started following (starting with Moulson) has been defensively responsible.
Moulson himself is probably one of the lesser defenders we've gotten to the NHL, but he scored a bunch of NHL goals.
Quote from: Trotsky on December 04, 2025, 06:22:41 PMQuote from: ugarte on December 04, 2025, 05:25:50 PMQuote from: Trotsky on December 04, 2025, 02:43:55 PMKent Manderville (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/3722/kent-manderville) was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG). He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward.
come on man ... manderville was scoring almost a point per game in the AHL by 22. it wasn't his role in the nhl but he didn't get to the league as a grinder.
I don't agree with your larger point. He was always at loggerheads with McCutcheon over being responsible defensively. When he went to the Canadian Olympic team it was ironically there that he honed his abilities to play defense. That got him to the Show, not his flash. The high minors are awash with guys with long scoring careers who never get The Invitation because they did not round out their game. It does your team no good to be 1.00 PPG and yet a -1 every night.
I'm not making the larger point you think i am. I'm saying that manderville is a bad example of a guy who was in the NHL despite not being a point producer. in the minors, when he had to earn his ticket to the show, he was scoring. he did also have to prove that he could round it his game but that means being more than a minor league scorer, not being someone who, against lesser competition, can't score.
I am not saying that Bancroft made a mistake in leaving (though it would be nice to have him) or that he's dunzo but I am saying that kent manderville is a terrible comp for a guy who isn't scoring in the AHL at 24 regardless of how well he is (or is not) playing defense. The best thing that can be said right now is that he hasn't been shipped down to the ECHL so he's probably doing something right.
Quote from: Dafatone on December 04, 2025, 09:53:20 PMEvery forward who has made the NHL from Cornell since I started following (starting with Moulson) has been defensively responsible.
Moulson himself is probably one of the lesser defenders we've gotten to the NHL, but he scored a bunch of NHL goals.
Yes, but like I said—-being defensively responsible is necessary, but not sufficient. The Cornellians who have made it to the NHL since Moulson put up a lot of points in the lower levels too. Moreover, a lot of qualities that make one a good a good defender, or reliable with the puck, also make one a good scorer: speed, hockey sense, quick passing. It's obviously way too early to say Bancroft made a mistake leaving, but he's going to need to start contributing offensively if he wants to have any shot of making it.
I think Matt Moulson is underrated as an NHL player, and as a Cornell Alum- that said, being on a line with Johnny Tavares certainly helped his point total. FWIW they were also childhood friends.
Watching the NY Sirens / Vancouver Goldeneyes game on Channel 9 in New York. There's 5 Cornell alumnae on the rosters (Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill for NY. Daniel and Chan for Vancouver). The only one I haven't seen on the ice yet is O'Neill. And Zandee-Hart was the interview in the 1st intermission.
3-0 Vancouver after 1.
Edit: O'Neill is playing.
Cornell Club of Chicago had a quick meet and greet with Coach Cam Abbott before the Chicago Wolves - Milwaukee Admirals game this evening. He and his family are settling in here.
Quote from: David Harding on December 07, 2025, 01:37:43 AMCornell Club of Chicago had a quick meet and greet with Coach Cam Abbott before the Chicago Wolves - Milwaukee Admirals game this evening. He and his family are settling in here.
Wonder if he would have been interested in the Cornell job if Casey hadn't gotten it.
Matt Stienberg made his return to the AHL Colorado lineup Friday after almost two months. He had 1+1. He did not play last night. I hope that at some point in his pro career he can put together a healthy stretch.
Between Mike Garman, Cam Abbot and Topher Scott there's no shortage of Alumni future coaches. Are any others currently in coaching positions? (FWIW Topher isn't currently a coach, but he's still involved with player development and training)
Topher quit coaching. Abbott's whole experience is in Europe. Is Garman still at Notre Dame? He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.
Quote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching. Abbott's whole experience is in Europe. Is Garman still at Notre Dame? He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.
Abbott is in his second year as coach of the AHL Chicago Wolves, but it's all pro hockey. I agree that Garman would likely be a better fit. He's just in his first year as associate head coach at Notre Dame after 8 years with the Chicago Steel of the USHL. We can give him some credit for having coached Ian Shane and Charlie Major.
I think Abbott has his sites on the NHL. Would be to tough to make that jump from a non scholarship IVY.
Quote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching. Abbott's whole experience is in Europe. Is Garman still at Notre Dame? He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.
You don't think Topher would get back into coaching to coach at his alma mater?
You may be right. I just hope you're wrong, and that we get to find out.
Quote from: andyw2100 on December 08, 2025, 09:52:29 PMQuote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching. Abbott's whole experience is in Europe. Is Garman still at Notre Dame? He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.
You don't think Topher would get back into coaching to coach at his alma mater?
You may be right. I just hope you're wrong, and that we get to find out.
Topher hasn't even been an associate head coach in college. I don't think a head coaching job is in the cards for him. (Seems he isn't looking for that, either.) Abbott is now in his second year coaching the Chicago Wolves of the AHL.
Quote from: andyw2100 on December 08, 2025, 09:52:29 PMQuote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching. Abbott's whole experience is in Europe. Is Garman still at Notre Dame? He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.
You don't think Topher would get back into coaching to coach at his alma mater?
You may be right. I just hope you're wrong, and that we get to find out.
Judging by the guests he has rolling through his podcast alone, he seems well connected and incredibly knowledgeable about the game and player development. Tons of ex collage and NHL/minor pros who are coaching now on all levels join him- and it would seem he's well respected and well positioned to go back behind the bench, should he want to.
Quote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching. Abbott's whole experience is in Europe. Is Garman still at Notre Dame? He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.
Garman is in his first season at Notre Dame, after leaving the Chicago Steel kinda suddenly. I know a young guy in Juniors who fully expected to play for him this season, and with the new coach, POS Scott Gomez, found himself without a team. (real recruiting drama!) He found his way to another Junior team and remains committed to Maine next season.
Quote from: The Rancor on December 09, 2025, 09:26:51 AMQuote from: andyw2100 on December 08, 2025, 09:52:29 PMQuote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching. Abbott's whole experience is in Europe. Is Garman still at Notre Dame? He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.
You don't think Topher would get back into coaching to coach at his alma mater?
You may be right. I just hope you're wrong, and that we get to find out.
Judging by the guests he has rolling through his podcast alone, he seems well connected and incredibly knowledgeable about the game and player development. Tons of ex collage and NHL/minor pros who are coaching now on all levels join him- and it would seem he's well respected and well positioned to go back behind the bench, should he want to.
That's the big "should," though - he made it explicitly clear at the time he stopped coaching that it was because of the tremendous time and travel commitment. It wouldn't be
easier to do that as head coach for a Div. I college team.
Quote from: Beeeej on December 09, 2025, 09:49:22 AMQuote from: The Rancor on December 09, 2025, 09:26:51 AMQuote from: andyw2100 on December 08, 2025, 09:52:29 PMQuote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching. Abbott's whole experience is in Europe. Is Garman still at Notre Dame? He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.
You don't think Topher would get back into coaching to coach at his alma mater?
You may be right. I just hope you're wrong, and that we get to find out.
Judging by the guests he has rolling through his podcast alone, he seems well connected and incredibly knowledgeable about the game and player development. Tons of ex collage and NHL/minor pros who are coaching now on all levels join him- and it would seem he's well respected and well positioned to go back behind the bench, should he want to.
That's the big "should," though - he made it explicitly clear at the time he stopped coaching that it was because of the tremendous time and travel commitment. It wouldn't be easier to do that as head coach for a Div. I college team.
I had the idea that the time commitment had to do with raising a family. As children grow that could change. But I'm not sure I am remembering correctly.
Quote from: marty on December 09, 2025, 10:05:12 AMQuote from: Beeeej on December 09, 2025, 09:49:22 AMQuote from: The Rancor on December 09, 2025, 09:26:51 AMQuote from: andyw2100 on December 08, 2025, 09:52:29 PMQuote from: Trotsky on December 08, 2025, 04:46:06 PMTopher quit coaching. Abbott's whole experience is in Europe. Is Garman still at Notre Dame? He is late 30s, that's a good fit assuming Casey is a 5-7 year man.
You don't think Topher would get back into coaching to coach at his alma mater?
You may be right. I just hope you're wrong, and that we get to find out.
Judging by the guests he has rolling through his podcast alone, he seems well connected and incredibly knowledgeable about the game and player development. Tons of ex collage and NHL/minor pros who are coaching now on all levels join him- and it would seem he's well respected and well positioned to go back behind the bench, should he want to.
That's the big "should," though - he made it explicitly clear at the time he stopped coaching that it was because of the tremendous time and travel commitment. It wouldn't be easier to do that as head coach for a Div. I college team.
I had the idea that the time commitment had to do with raising a family. As children grow that could change. But I'm not sure I am remembering correctly.
You are remembering correctly, but I think once you're out you're not climbing the ladder for the big jobs anymore.
It all indicates he is not a single minded psycho, and you kinda hafta be for that job. It eats your life. If you are more mentally balanced, you don't do it.
Quote from: The Rancor on December 09, 2025, 09:26:51 AMJudging by the guests he has rolling through his podcast alone
Oh neat. I need to check this out. Is it Cornell-focused?
Is it titled "Without A Doubt"?
Edit: The Hockey Think Tank. It's targeted to youth hockey players and coaches and concerns technique and preparation. Topher is so cool. Both are the hosts are so smart.
Sullivan Mack is now on a four game point streak (2+2).
Quote from: David Harding on December 07, 2025, 01:37:43 AMCornell Club of Chicago had a quick meet and greet with Coach Cam Abbott before the Chicago Wolves - Milwaukee Admirals game this evening. He and his family are settling in here.
The PWHL is auctioning off a bunch of stuff, including (randomly) Rory Guilday's draft card.
https://therealest.com/item/2025-pwhl-draft-5th-pick-draft-selection-card-1st-round?fbclid=IwVERFWAOn3V9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEe4GYbSHhqgcrkBDMEN0d89al4gH9W7wRSZrNy24bQcaPgpArcOahA6M3FqeY_aem_x4fMNmuQlefl4r31yI8SKw
Quote from: David Harding on December 10, 2025, 12:26:09 PMQuote from: David Harding on December 07, 2025, 01:37:43 AMCornell Club of Chicago had a quick meet and greet with Coach Cam Abbott before the Chicago Wolves - Milwaukee Admirals game this evening. He and his family are settling in here.
Very nice! (sad we lost the pom pom emoji 🏆🎉📣🤸 )
Quote from: Chris '03 on December 11, 2025, 12:25:09 PMThe PWHL is auctioning off a bunch of stuff, including (randomly) Rory Guilday's draft card.
https://therealest.com/item/2025-pwhl-draft-5th-pick-draft-selection-card-1st-round?fbclid=IwVERFWAOn3V9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEe4GYbSHhqgcrkBDMEN0d89al4gH9W7wRSZrNy24bQcaPgpArcOahA6M3FqeY_aem_x4fMNmuQlefl4r31yI8SKw
And a puck. (https://therealest.com/item/2025-pwhl-draft-rory-guiliday-autographed-draft-puck-3) And a whole buncha neat stuff.
Mitchell scored his first NHL goal tonight. During an Islanders cycle he raced in off the bench and banged home a rebound off the end boards. Way to go Travis!
Malinski scored tonight as well. Terrific night for the Cornell D men alums
Quote from: VIEWfromK on December 11, 2025, 11:11:18 PMMalinski scored tonight as well. Terrific night for the Cornell D men alums
Barron scored as well, ending a 20-game drought for him, and making it a Cornell alum "hat trick" night!
Has the school ever had three former players score NHL goals on the same night?
Quote from: VIEWfromK on December 12, 2025, 07:56:36 AMHas the school ever had three former players score NHL goals on the same night?
Wouldn't shock me (especially if it fell during Nieuwendyk's career), but I'm not even sure how one would go about researching it.
Here's all 3
Mitchell (https://www.nhl.com/islanders/video/ana-nyi-mitchell-scores-goal-against-ville-husso-6386351168112)
Malinski (https://sports.yahoo.com/videos/sam-malinski-goal-vs-florida-025658445.html)
Barron (https://sports.yahoo.com/videos/morgan-barron-goal-vs-boston-012211139.html)
I suspect not. http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html
Best bet was probably 2016 (Moulson 8, Greening 7, Nash 9). Then 2002 (Nieuwendyk 25, Manderville 3, Chartrand 7). Then 2003 (Nieuwendyk 17, Manderville 3, Chartrand 8 ).
I think we would remember if it was 2024 (MacDonald 7, Barron 11, Malinski 3).
IINM in no other season have there been 3 different Cornell goal scorers.
Quote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 09:48:48 AMI suspect not. http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html
Best bet was probably 2016 (Moulson 8, Greening 7, Nash 9). Then 2002 (Nieuwendyk 25, Manderville 3, Chartrand 7). Then 2003 (Nieuwendyk 17, Manderville 3, Chartrand 8 ).
I think we would remember if it was 2024 (MacDonald 7, Barron 11, Malinski 3).
IINM in no other season have there been 3 different Cornell goal scorers.
So you'd best best off checking the dates of each goal for the player of the three who scored the
fewest goals in each of those years, then check the other two players' stats for those dates. A total of sixteen dates to check (max - assuming that the lowest goal scorer of the three had no multi-goal nights).
Quote from: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 10:01:30 AMQuote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 09:48:48 AMI suspect not. http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html
Best bet was probably 2016 (Moulson 8, Greening 7, Nash 9). Then 2002 (Nieuwendyk 25, Manderville 3, Chartrand 7). Then 2003 (Nieuwendyk 17, Manderville 3, Chartrand 8 ).
I think we would remember if it was 2024 (MacDonald 7, Barron 11, Malinski 3).
IINM in no other season have there been 3 different Cornell goal scorers.
So you'd best best off checking the dates of each goal for the player of the three who scored the fewest goals in each of those years, then check the other two players' stats for those dates. A total of sixteen dates to check (max - assuming that the lowest goal scorer of the three had no multi-goal nights).
So, go for it! :D
Quote from: Jim Hyla on December 12, 2025, 10:12:40 AMQuote from: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 10:01:30 AMQuote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 09:48:48 AMI suspect not. http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html
Best bet was probably 2016 (Moulson 8, Greening 7, Nash 9). Then 2002 (Nieuwendyk 25, Manderville 3, Chartrand 7). Then 2003 (Nieuwendyk 17, Manderville 3, Chartrand 8 ).
I think we would remember if it was 2024 (MacDonald 7, Barron 11, Malinski 3).
IINM in no other season have there been 3 different Cornell goal scorers.
So you'd best best off checking the dates of each goal for the player of the three who scored the fewest goals in each of those years, then check the other two players' stats for those dates. A total of sixteen dates to check (max - assuming that the lowest goal scorer of the three had no multi-goal nights).
So, go for it! :D
I used up all my spare time for today on clearing spam, replying to Greg's post, and watching last night's three goals. Too much job, toddler, estate, finances, and laundry for a research project. Can't wait for retirement! ;D
Interesting that Barron's goal was on the PP. Winnipeg must have shaken things up to get out of their rut.
Quote from: scoop85 on December 12, 2025, 11:05:50 AMInteresting that Barron's goal was on the PP. Winnipeg must have shaken things up to get out of their rut.
Box score shows Barron scoring ~30 seconds after the Boston penalty expired, so it wasn't a PPG.
Quote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 09:48:48 AMI suspect not. http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html
Best bet was probably 2016 (Moulson 8, Greening 7, Nash 9). Then 2002 (Nieuwendyk 25, Manderville 3, Chartrand 7). Then 2003 (Nieuwendyk 17, Manderville 3, Chartrand 8 ).
I think we would remember if it was 2024 (MacDonald 7, Barron 11, Malinski 3).
IINM in no other season have there been 3 different Cornell goal scorers.
2008-09: Moulson had 1, Sawada had 1, and Bitz had 4.
Quote from: scoop85 on December 12, 2025, 11:05:50 AMInteresting that Barron's goal was on the PP. Winnipeg must have shaken things up to get out of their rut.
They... lost to the Bruins. Lol
Quote from: sah67 on December 12, 2025, 12:27:45 PMQuote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 09:48:48 AMI suspect not. http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html
Best bet was probably 2016 (Moulson 8, Greening 7, Nash 9). Then 2002 (Nieuwendyk 25, Manderville 3, Chartrand 7). Then 2003 (Nieuwendyk 17, Manderville 3, Chartrand 8 ).
I think we would remember if it was 2024 (MacDonald 7, Barron 11, Malinski 3).
IINM in no other season have there been 3 different Cornell goal scorers.
2008-09: Moulson had 1, Sawada had 1, and Bitz had 4.
Would be pretty funny if that turns out to be the year.
Quote from: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 12:46:37 PMQuote from: sah67 on December 12, 2025, 12:27:45 PMQuote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 09:48:48 AMI suspect not. http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html
Best bet was probably 2016 (Moulson 8, Greening 7, Nash 9). Then 2002 (Nieuwendyk 25, Manderville 3, Chartrand 7). Then 2003 (Nieuwendyk 17, Manderville 3, Chartrand 8 ).
I think we would remember if it was 2024 (MacDonald 7, Barron 11, Malinski 3).
IINM in no other season have there been 3 different Cornell goal scorers.
2008-09: Moulson had 1, Sawada had 1, and Bitz had 4.
Would be pretty funny if that turns out to be the year.
That was also the season of the famous "We want Bitz!"chant echoing through TD Garden during a Bruins blowout where Bitz had two goals and the crowd wanted him back on the ice for a hat trick bid:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tfEfDfJsbgQ
I imagine that has to be a career-defining moment for Byron.
Quote from: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 10:14:38 AMI used up all my spare time for today on clearing spam, replying to Greg's post, and watching last night's three goals. Too much job, toddler, estate, finances, and laundry for a research project. Can't wait for retirement! ;D
Four of those things are lower priority than hockey. I'll admit laundry goes first.
Quote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 01:14:43 PMQuote from: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 10:14:38 AMI used up all my spare time for today on clearing spam, replying to Greg's post, and watching last night's three goals. Too much job, toddler, estate, finances, and laundry for a research project. Can't wait for retirement! ;D
Four of those things are lower priority than hockey. I'll admit laundry goes first.
Yeah, but you can do other things while waiting on laundry. So that doesn't count.
Quote from: Jim Hyla on December 12, 2025, 04:32:35 PMQuote from: Trotsky on December 12, 2025, 01:14:43 PMQuote from: Beeeej on December 12, 2025, 10:14:38 AMI used up all my spare time for today on clearing spam, replying to Greg's post, and watching last night's three goals. Too much job, toddler, estate, finances, and laundry for a research project. Can't wait for retirement! ;D
Four of those things are lower priority than hockey. I'll admit laundry goes first.
Yeah, but you can do other things while waiting on laundry. So that doesn't count.
QFT
Barron had another goal tonight and Malinski has an assist in a game that's still underway.
Sam's scoring output is now up to 3G 15A in 32GP, which is already well ahead of his 5G 10A production in 76GP last season. He's now the second highest scoring defenseman on the Avs, and among the top 7 scorers overall.
In other alum scoring news: Ben Berard is the leading scorer (6G, 9A) on a bottom-of-the-barrel Abbotsford team that has only scored 49G in 25 games so far this season in the AHL.
Quote from: sah67 on December 13, 2025, 11:14:23 PMIn other alum scoring news: Ben Berard is the leading scorer (6G, 9A) on a bottom-of-the-barrel Abbotsford team that has only scored 49G in 25 games so far this season in the AHL.
TIL. I thought Abbotsford was a juniors team.
Quote from: Trotsky on December 13, 2025, 11:54:22 PMQuote from: sah67 on December 13, 2025, 11:14:23 PMIn other alum scoring news: Ben Berard is the leading scorer (6G, 9A) on a bottom-of-the-barrel Abbotsford team that has only scored 49G in 25 games so far this season in the AHL.
TIL. I thought Abbotsford was a juniors team.
Plus Berard is a BC native so he's playing a few hours from where he was born.
Katie Chan gets her first PWHL goal! (https://x.com/LachInTheCrease/status/2001130471216820724?t=ntEiBHrq7yM--QGW_P4f1w&s=19)
Mack has been on a tear since he broke through with his first pro goal. Twelve points in his last nine games including a two goal game on Saturday and multi point games in four of his last five.
O'Leary had a two goal game last night. He is on a seven game point streak (4g+5a).
Isles sent down Mitchell
Quote from: arugula on December 18, 2025, 10:15:31 AMIsles sent down Mitchell
Too bad. He seemed to play well at the NHL level.
He'll be back.
(https://static0.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/arnold-schwarzenegger-i-ll-be-back-1200-x-630.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=825&dpr=1.5)
Quote from: scoop85 on December 18, 2025, 11:12:36 AMQuote from: arugula on December 18, 2025, 10:15:31 AMIsles sent down Mitchell
Too bad. He seemed to play well at the NHL level.
The article that I read said that if he plays one more NHL game they have to put him on waivers to send him down. The article also hinted that he could be back as soon as Saturday after he plays his mandatory AHL game Friday night
I went back to make sure because I'm surprised no one had mentioned this - if I am still missing it, I apologize. But Cam Abbott was fired as Chicago Wolves coach last week. Apparently he is staying in the org in some capacity.
Quote from: adamw on December 18, 2025, 07:25:07 PMI went back to make sure because I'm surprised no one had mentioned this - if I am still missing it, I apologize. But Cam Abbott was fired as Chicago Wolves coach last week. Apparently he is staying in the org in some capacity.
Heard about that but didn't know he was a Cornell alum.
Quote from: stereax on December 19, 2025, 07:28:12 AMQuote from: adamw on December 18, 2025, 07:25:07 PMI went back to make sure because I'm surprised no one had mentioned this - if I am still missing it, I apologize. But Cam Abbott was fired as Chicago Wolves coach last week. Apparently he is staying in the org in some capacity.
Heard about that but didn't know he was a Cornell alum.
Dig around the eLynah archives a bit - there have been some wonderful stories linked about how he and his brother Chris (also an alum) teamed up as GM/coach for a European team. Just one of a number of great stories about sets of twins who've played for Cornell, particularly for Schafer - e.g., Matt and Mark McRae, who were both excellent players but went directly from college to med school, and one of them now does reconstructive plastic surgery, frequently pro bono.
Quote from: adamw on December 18, 2025, 07:25:07 PMI went back to make sure because I'm surprised no one had mentioned this - if I am still missing it, I apologize. But Cam Abbott was fired as Chicago Wolves coach last week. Apparently he is staying in the org in some capacity.
I completely missed this, thanks Adam.
Looks like, from Reddit, that he's staying on in Player Development with the Hurricanes, Chris is also with the Canes in this capacity.
Hard to say what happened, Wolves fans are confused. The theory is some sort of clash between the independently run Wolves and their NHL affiliate the Hurricanes. I don't understand the arrangement, but seems Cam got caught in the middle somewhere and the Canes like him, or his brother, enough that they are keeping him. Best of luck to the Abbots. Chicago has been rough this year on Cornell Hockey Alumni.
Watching the Lehigh Valley - Bridgeport game tonight. Travis Mitchell seems to be getting a lot of ice time.
Barron scored a short handed goal. Three goals in his last five games. He beat Makar at the far blue line and finished a pretty nice backhander at top speed.
Quote from: VIEWfromK on December 20, 2025, 12:27:24 AMBarron scored a short handed goal. Three goals in his last five games. He beat Makar at the far blue line and finished a pretty nice backhander at top speed.
Another great individual effort, similar to the other shorty he scored early in the season
https://www.nhl.com/jets/video/wpg-col-barron-scores-shg-against-scott-wedgewood-6386736293112
Barron's hot streak continued as he scored the tying goal to bring Winnipeg back from a 3-0 deficit, but Utah ended up winning the game in OT.
Quote from: sah67 on December 21, 2025, 10:53:46 PMBarron's hot streak continued as he scored the tying goal to bring Winnipeg back from a 3-0 deficit, but Utah ended up winning the game in OT.
So many of his goals look the same. Speed and then finish. Not much greasy about how he gets his.
The ECHL players are on the verge of going on strike. The are quite a few former Cornell guys this would affect
ECHL labor issues (https://apnews.com/article/echl-player-strike-cc97bfca11f8572a5809f48bbcfbb632).
Quote"Consistently in the last six or eight weeks, teams trying to intimidate and bully our members, threaten our members with their jobs, with their housing, with their work visas if they're from out of country — different tactics like that," Ramsay said.
So, the usual intimidation. Nice to see players fighting back for once, though in this environment I half expect ICE raids.
Which... well it would be fun to see Meal Team 6 try to rough up hockey players rather than infants and expectant mothers.
Quote from: VIEWfromK on December 22, 2025, 05:15:25 AMQuote from: sah67 on December 21, 2025, 10:53:46 PMBarron's hot streak continued as he scored the tying goal to bring Winnipeg back from a 3-0 deficit, but Utah ended up winning the game in OT.
So many of his goals look the same. Speed and then finish. Not much greasy about how he gets his.
https://www.nhl.com/video/wpg-uta-barron-scores-goal-against-karel-vejmelka-6386809334112
Shane got traded to the Reading Royals (https://x.com/kc_mavericks/status/2003239500257067329?t=sYGsT6_UgwskLnljyBrNvA&s=19).
Quote from: stereax on December 23, 2025, 10:38:30 AMShane got traded to the Reading Royals (https://x.com/kc_mavericks/status/2003239500257067329?t=sYGsT6_UgwskLnljyBrNvA&s=19).
Excellent. That puts him in the Flyers organization. Hopefully he'll get to play some time in Lehigh Valley and I can watch him on TV.
PHPA-ECHL negotiations collapse, we're going to unpaid overtime (https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/its-official-echl-players-walk-out-over-unfair-bargaining-and-dangerous-conditions).
QuoteIt's official, the PHPA (Professional Hockey Players Association) has notified the ECHL that its players will go on strike effective December 26th.
UPDATE: the Hartford Wolf Pack has recalled forwards Sullivan Mack and Zakary Karpa from loan to ECHL Bloomington.
Quote from: fastforward on December 26, 2025, 04:34:21 PMUPDATE: the Hartford Wolf Pack has recalled forwards Sullivan Mack and Zakary Karpa from loan to ECHL Bloomington.
That's a good way around the strike.
Sucks for whoever they sent down, though. "In case you were wondering what the organization thinks of you, ..."
Quote from: Trotsky on December 26, 2025, 07:13:31 PMSucks for whoever they sent down, though. "In case you were wondering what the organization thinks of you, ..."
They didn't send anyone down. I think a couple of teams recalled their guys with AHL contracts to have them playing/training in the A and avoiding the strike?
Jenner with two goals in the shootout was first star for Ottawa this afternoon;
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSx5uUKEoAF/?igsh=NTgxMGhsdnY3ZTdm
Malinski had 3 assists as the Avs clawed their way back against Vegas to win in a shootout.
Berard scored both of Abbotsford's goals last night in a 3-2 loss
A signature Malinski blue line shake-and-bake to set up Nichushkin for the hat trick: https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=47468654
Malott returned to the Kings' lineup and scored his third of the season in a loss to Tampa: https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=47476217
Rory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?
Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?
Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.
HELL YEAH.
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?
Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.
Guilday played in the Rivalry Series, so it's not that surprising, but still great news.
Based on Canada's roster in the Rivalry Series I'd expect Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill should be on the olympic roster. Maybe Jenner.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 02:57:32 PMQuote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?
Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.
Guilday played in the Rivalry Series, so it's not that surprising, but still great news.
Based on Canada's roster in the Rivalry Series I'd expect Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill should be on the olympic roster. Maybe Jenner.
THN projects (https://thehockeynews.com/womens/international/projecting-canada-s-final-olympic-women-s-hockey-roster#google_vignette) Jenner and O'Neill on the roster.
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 03:15:49 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 02:57:32 PMQuote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?
Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.
Guilday played in the Rivalry Series, so it's not that surprising, but still great news.
Based on Canada's roster in the Rivalry Series I'd expect Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill should be on the olympic roster. Maybe Jenner.
THN projects (https://thehockeynews.com/womens/international/projecting-canada-s-final-olympic-women-s-hockey-roster#google_vignette) Jenner and O'Neill on the roster.
Interesting. Bourbonnais not even in the discussion.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 09:06:08 PMQuote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 03:15:49 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 02:57:32 PMQuote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?
Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.
Guilday played in the Rivalry Series, so it's not that surprising, but still great news.
Based on Canada's roster in the Rivalry Series I'd expect Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill should be on the olympic roster. Maybe Jenner.
THN projects (https://thehockeynews.com/womens/international/projecting-canada-s-final-olympic-women-s-hockey-roster#google_vignette) Jenner and O'Neill on the roster.
Interesting. Bourbonnais not even in the discussion.
Hasn't had a great start to her PWHL season, no?
Quote from: stereax on January 02, 2026, 10:06:50 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 09:06:08 PMQuote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 03:15:49 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 02:57:32 PMQuote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?
Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.
Guilday played in the Rivalry Series, so it's not that surprising, but still great news.
Based on Canada's roster in the Rivalry Series I'd expect Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill should be on the olympic roster. Maybe Jenner.
THN projects (https://thehockeynews.com/womens/international/projecting-canada-s-final-olympic-women-s-hockey-roster#google_vignette) Jenner and O'Neill on the roster.
Interesting. Bourbonnais not even in the discussion.
Hasn't had a great start to her PWHL season, no?
We were at the Sirens-Victoire game earlier today and Bourbonnais was really not that noticeable on the ice. She does apparently have 4 points over her last 3 games though.
O'Neill, on the other hand, was a total spitfire out there and in addition to scoring a nice goal after a bad giveway by the Montreal goalie, seemed to dominate nearly all of the faceoffs she took.
It was also fun to see a former nemesis (Kaltounkova from Colgate) playing alongside Cornell alums for the Sirens. She has a wicked one-timer that she loves to fire away with from the faceoff dot, Ovechkin-style, and she still plays with a bit of that nasty edge that earned her more than a few game misconducts at 'Gate.
Quote from: sah67 on January 02, 2026, 11:30:57 PMQuote from: stereax on January 02, 2026, 10:06:50 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 09:06:08 PMQuote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 03:15:49 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 02, 2026, 02:57:32 PMQuote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?
Canadian women's team will be announced later this month.
Guilday played in the Rivalry Series, so it's not that surprising, but still great news.
Based on Canada's roster in the Rivalry Series I'd expect Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill should be on the olympic roster. Maybe Jenner.
THN projects (https://thehockeynews.com/womens/international/projecting-canada-s-final-olympic-women-s-hockey-roster#google_vignette) Jenner and O'Neill on the roster.
Interesting. Bourbonnais not even in the discussion.
Hasn't had a great start to her PWHL season, no?
We were at the Sirens-Victoire game earlier today and Bourbonnais was really not that noticeable on the ice. She does apparently have 4 points over her last 3 games though.
O'Neill, on the other hand, was a total spitfire out there and in addition to scoring a nice goal after a bad giveway by the Montreal goalie, seemed to dominate nearly all of the faceoffs she took.
It was also fun to see a former nemesis (Kaltounkova from Colgate) playing alongside Cornell alums for the Sirens. She has a wicked one-timer that she loves to fire away with from the faceoff dot, Ovechkin-style, and she still plays with a bit of that nasty edge that earned her more than a few game misconducts at 'Gate.
Couple friends and I are running a PWHL fantasy league off Google Sheets (why yes, we ARE nerds). I just picked up Bourbonnais off waivers... pretty sure she had a good game in the Casey O'Brien hat trick game, but hasn't been doing a ton outside that.
Guilday is carrying my team to any sort of relevance. Still 0-3 so far XD.
Quote from: Weder on January 02, 2026, 09:14:43 AMRory Guilday named to the U.S. Olympic team -- I believe the first Cornellian to play for either U.S. team in the Olympics?
Hmm.
Parris Duffus and Doug McKee played for the US in the Worlds. Jean-Marc Pelletier, Andy Iles, and Cole Bardreau played for the US in the WJC. Ryan Walsh played for the US in the Spengler Cup. But... yeah.
Feature on Rory Guilday:
https://facesmag.ca/rory-guildays-inspiring-road-to-pwhl-stardom-in-ottawa/
Kristin O'Neill and Brianne Jenner named to the Canadian team. This will be O'Neill's first olympics and Jenner's fourth.
Suda has been on a nice run with Worcester in the ECHL. Fifteen points in his last fourteen games. He even had a one day recall to Bridgeport when they played in Utica but he was a scratch
Quote from: VIEWfromK on January 12, 2026, 07:24:48 AMSuda has been on a nice run with Worcester in the ECHL. Fifteen points in his last fourteen games. He even had a one day recall to Bridgeport when they played in Utica but he was a scratch
Love to see that. Suda was more valuable than we knew.
Quote from: imafrshmn on January 09, 2026, 04:26:00 PMThis will be O'Neill's first olympics and Jenner's fourth.
Wow!
Brief news release from CU: https://cornellbigred.com/news/2026/1/9/womens-ice-hockey-cornell-2026-canadian-olympic-roster-selections.aspx
Quote from: Trotsky on January 12, 2026, 08:41:39 AMQuote from: VIEWfromK on January 12, 2026, 07:24:48 AMSuda has been on a nice run with Worcester in the ECHL. Fifteen points in his last fourteen games. He even had a one day recall to Bridgeport when they played in Utica but he was a scratch
Love to see that. Suda was more valuable than we knew.
He was a fantastic defensive defenseman but when he scored a goal I assumed he was aiming at something else since his shots usually didn't requires saves
Quote from: ugarte on January 12, 2026, 12:46:25 PMQuote from: Trotsky on January 12, 2026, 08:41:39 AMQuote from: VIEWfromK on January 12, 2026, 07:24:48 AMSuda has been on a nice run with Worcester in the ECHL. Fifteen points in his last fourteen games. He even had a one day recall to Bridgeport when they played in Utica but he was a scratch
Love to see that. Suda was more valuable than we knew.
He was a fantastic defensive defenseman but when he scored a goal I assumed he was aiming at something else since his shots usually didn't requires saves
Don't do the man like THAT 😭
Quote from: stereax on January 12, 2026, 12:51:44 PMQuote from: ugarte on January 12, 2026, 12:46:25 PMQuote from: Trotsky on January 12, 2026, 08:41:39 AMQuote from: VIEWfromK on January 12, 2026, 07:24:48 AMSuda has been on a nice run with Worcester in the ECHL. Fifteen points in his last fourteen games. He even had a one day recall to Bridgeport when they played in Utica but he was a scratch
Love to see that. Suda was more valuable than we knew.
He was a fantastic defensive defenseman but when he scored a goal I assumed he was aiming at something else since his shots usually didn't requires saves
Don't do the man like THAT 😭
It's ok he taught Fegaras everything he knows.
Dalton Bancroft has 1 assist and 0 goals through 21 AHL games. Anybody considering departing Cornell for the pros prior to graduation really needs to take a look at the track record of players who have done so (Angello, Ferlin, etc.). So few make it to a full-time NHLer, and the few who do surely could have just as well made it after their senior year.
I think players leave early due to the risk of injury. The extra year of development is not worth the risk that on any shift it can all be taken away.
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 01:21:29 AMI think players leave early due to the risk of injury. The extra year of development is not worth the risk that on any shift it can all be taken away.
I mean, wasn't there that one junior a few years back who fucked himself up bad enough (I think in practice) that he quit the team because he wouldn't be able to play again?
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 01:21:29 AMI think players leave early due to the risk of injury. The extra year of development is not worth the risk that on any shift it can all be taken away.
In reality, there are so few actual spots in the League. Sam M is crushing it, as is Morgan B....not many! Now that the NCAA is a complete crap show, maybe Dalton could return...it sounds so stupid to type it, but it's the new reality!
The skill level just to suit up as a pro is so insanely high, and the difference between NHL and ECHL is closer than you think. Having been on the ice with an ECHL/3 v 3 league pro (and all star) who had a stint in the AHL, I can assure you these are elite level super-humans. Would he have been 3 inches taller...
I know at least one player who left because his family needed money sooner rather than later. Yes, he may have had a better/longer pro career if he had stayed another year, but as others have noted, there are no guarantees. He did return to school when he finished playing.
My point is that those of us in the peanut gallery are not usually well enough informed to second guess these decisions.
The odds of making the NHL for all but the top prospects is so small. If you are a longshot, and I'd say Bancroft was a quality college forward but an NHL longshot, I doubt the extra year in college provides enough development to overcome the signing bonus and injury risk. If you want a signing bonus that covers more than bus fare to training camp you better sign before you're out of eligibility.
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 02:39:19 PMThe odds of making the NHL for all but the top prospects is so small. If you are a longshot, and I'd say Bancroft was a quality college forward but an NHL longshot, I doubt the extra year in college provides enough development to overcome the signing bonus and injury risk. If you want a signing bonus that covers more than bus fare to training camp you better sign before you're out of eligibility.
Why would the signing bonus be materially less after your senior year
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 02:41:47 PMQuote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 02:39:19 PMThe odds of making the NHL for all but the top prospects is so small. If you are a longshot, and I'd say Bancroft was a quality college forward but an NHL longshot, I doubt the extra year in college provides enough development to overcome the signing bonus and injury risk. If you want a signing bonus that covers more than bus fare to training camp you better sign before you're out of eligibility.
Why would the signing bonus be materially less after your senior year
I'm not at all knowledgeable about this area, but I'll take a shot at answering.
I'm guessing the signing bonus, which is an added incentive to get someone to give up college hockey and, at least for the time-being, college too, may not be necessary once those things are completed and thus are no longer things that need to be given up.
Quote from: andyw2100 on January 17, 2026, 02:50:20 PMQuote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 02:41:47 PMQuote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 02:39:19 PMThe odds of making the NHL for all but the top prospects is so small. If you are a longshot, and I'd say Bancroft was a quality college forward but an NHL longshot, I doubt the extra year in college provides enough development to overcome the signing bonus and injury risk. If you want a signing bonus that covers more than bus fare to training camp you better sign before you're out of eligibility.
Why would the signing bonus be materially less after your senior year
I'm not at all knowledgeable about this area, but I'll take a shot at answering.
I'm guessing the signing bonus, which is an added incentive to get someone to give up college hockey and, at least for the time-being, college too, may not be necessary once those things are completed and thus are no longer things that need to be given up.
exactly. you have leverage if you can go back to college. people out of college eligibility can threaten to take a real estate licensing exam.
if you want evidence, take a look at the signing bonuses of college seniors in the MLB draft.
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 03:30:34 PMQuote from: andyw2100 on January 17, 2026, 02:50:20 PMQuote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 02:41:47 PMQuote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 02:39:19 PMThe odds of making the NHL for all but the top prospects is so small. If you are a longshot, and I'd say Bancroft was a quality college forward but an NHL longshot, I doubt the extra year in college provides enough development to overcome the signing bonus and injury risk. If you want a signing bonus that covers more than bus fare to training camp you better sign before you're out of eligibility.
Why would the signing bonus be materially less after your senior year
I'm not at all knowledgeable about this area, but I'll take a shot at answering.
I'm guessing the signing bonus, which is an added incentive to get someone to give up college hockey and, at least for the time-being, college too, may not be necessary once those things are completed and thus are no longer things that need to be given up.
exactly. you have leverage if you can go back to college. people out of college eligibility can threaten to take a real estate licensing exam.
if you want evidence, take a look at the signing bonuses of college seniors in the MLB draft.
But the bonuses are mostly to outbid other NHL teams, not to sway the player away from returning by to college. It's Bruins versus Rangers, not Bruins versus Cornell. That dynamic doesn't change when the player becomes a senior. Bancroft's signing bonus was under 100K, btw, and that was with multiple NHL teams bidding for him.
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 03:58:53 PMQuote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 03:30:34 PMif you want evidence, take a look at the signing bonuses of college seniors in the MLB draft.
But the bonuses are mostly to outbid other NHL teams, not to sway the player away from returning by to college.
Citation needed. This is true for college seniors but not for anyone with eligibility remaining. It'll be even less true with NIL opportunities available.
Diego Pavia, to give an example, is worth much more to Vanderbilt than he will be to whoever takes him in the 6th round.
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 04:19:21 PMQuote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 03:58:53 PMQuote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 03:30:34 PMif you want evidence, take a look at the signing bonuses of college seniors in the MLB draft.
But the bonuses are mostly to outbid other NHL teams, not to sway the player away from returning by to college.
Citation needed. This is true for college seniors but not for anyone with eligibility remaining. It'll be even less true with NIL opportunities available.
Diego Pavia, to give an example, is worth much more to Vanderbilt than he will be to whoever takes him in the 6th round.
I only have anecdotal evidence, but for example Travis Mitchell (senior) got a bigger signing bonus than Bancroft despite having less NHL potential. (Actually it was the same per year amount but he got that bonus each of the two years he signed for, whereas Bancroft signed only for one year.)
I don't think NCAA football is a helpful comparison for many reasons.
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 04:19:21 PMQuote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 03:58:53 PMQuote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 03:30:34 PMif you want evidence, take a look at the signing bonuses of college seniors in the MLB draft.
But the bonuses are mostly to outbid other NHL teams, not to sway the player away from returning by to college.
Citation needed. This is true for college seniors but not for anyone with eligibility remaining. It'll be even less true with NIL opportunities available.
Diego Pavia, to give an example, is worth much more to Vanderbilt than he will be to whoever takes him in the 6th round.
It's a
bit of both.
Signing bonuses are limited to 10% of an ELC, if I'm not mistaken. Y'all keep forgetting that ELCs are HIGHLY regulated and regular. (Usually, you're going to see handshake deals, under-the-table stuff as well, though.)
But also, a team like last year's Bruins looked like you'd be able to get a
chance at the NHL roster sooner rather than later. (Or sometimes, teams will just guarantee it if you're that good.) That's usually a strong factor. Compare, for example, Collin Graf (yuck) and the Sharks.
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 04:24:54 PMQuote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 04:19:21 PM... Diego Pavia, to give an example, is worth much more to Vanderbilt...
I don't think NCAA football is a helpful comparison for many reasons.
Ben Robertson might disagree that you discount the impact of NIL on college hockey. I just don't pay enough attention to non-Cornell college hockey to have relevant examples.
QuoteI only have anecdotal evidence, but for example Travis Mitchell (senior) got a bigger signing bonus than Bancroft despite having less NHL potential. ...
The Travis Mitchell who had a cup of coffee with the Islanders? I think maybe the pro scouts evaluated their relative potential differently than you did.
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 04:24:54 PMQuote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 04:19:21 PMQuote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 03:58:53 PMQuote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 03:30:34 PMif you want evidence, take a look at the signing bonuses of college seniors in the MLB draft.
But the bonuses are mostly to outbid other NHL teams, not to sway the player away from returning by to college.
Citation needed. This is true for college seniors but not for anyone with eligibility remaining. It'll be even less true with NIL opportunities available.
Diego Pavia, to give an example, is worth much more to Vanderbilt than he will be to whoever takes him in the 6th round.
I only have anecdotal evidence, but for example Travis Mitchell (senior) got a bigger signing bonus than Bancroft despite having less NHL potential. (Actually it was the same per year amount but he got that bonus each of the two years he signed for, whereas Bancroft signed only for one year.)
I don't think NCAA football is a helpful comparison for many reasons.
Speaking of Mitchell, I got to see him play last night. He didn't hit the scoreboard, but played competently. I think he only played at even strength, not on special teams. Bridgeport smacked the Phantoms around, but it was still fun being at the game.
Quote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 04:45:49 PMQuote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 04:24:54 PMQuote from: ugarte on January 17, 2026, 04:19:21 PM... Diego Pavia, to give an example, is worth much more to Vanderbilt...
I don't think NCAA football is a helpful comparison for many reasons.
Ben Robertson might disagree that you discount the impact of NIL on college hockey. I just don't pay enough attention to non-Cornell college hockey to have relevant examples.
QuoteI only have anecdotal evidence, but for example Travis Mitchell (senior) got a bigger signing bonus than Bancroft despite having less NHL potential. ...
The Travis Mitchell who had a cup of coffee with the Islanders? I think maybe the pro scouts evaluated their relative potential differently than you did.
Reports were that there was a bigger demand for Bancroft. Yet, as a junior, Bancroft ended up with a smaller signing bonus.
I doubt Robertson is getting much/any NIL but that's beside the point. We're talking about
Cornell players getting wooed by NHL teams. So the NIL aspect is immaterial. NHL teams don't have to outbid something that doesn't exist.
Quote from: BearLover on January 17, 2026, 05:18:47 PMWe're talking about Cornell players getting wooed by NHL teams. So the NIL aspect is immaterial. NHL teams don't have to outbid something that doesn't exist.
NHL teams bidding for Cornell undergraduates are competing with the prospect of NIL at transfer schools! There are so many factors you just handwave.
It's behind a paywall, but The Athletic has an article that puts Sam Malinski on the list of top 10 most improved players in the NHL.
Quote from: nmcorm83 on January 22, 2026, 08:59:25 AMIt's behind a paywall, but The Athletic has an article that puts Sam Malinski on the list of top 10 most improved players in the NHL.
Initially signed as an undrafted college free agent in 2023, Malinski has established himself as an indispensable middle-of-the-lineup piece on Colorado's blue line. It's taken time for Jared Bednar to fully trust Malinski because of his undersized 5-foot-11 frame, but his play has been so strong that he's emerging as one of the most underrated defensemen in the league.
Malinski is a dynamic, smooth-skating puck mover. He leads zone exits with ease and is a skilled enough puck carrier to also lead impressive plays through the neutral zone, which is a perfect fit for the speedy, high-octane way the Avs like to attack. He's breaking out offensively, on pace for 42 points despite receiving no power-play time. Malinski is tied with Jakob Chychrun for the 10th-most five-on-five points among defensemen this season. His two-way metrics are elite, and his average Game Score, according to Dom Luszczyszyn's model, rates him as one of this season's top 20 defensemen.
It may be tempting for outsiders to downplay Malinski's success as a product of playing with MacKinnon and on the best team in the NHL. However, only a small fraction of Malinski's ice time overlaps with MacKinnon. And if you specifically dive into Malinski's 539 five-on-five minutes away from MacKinnon, you'll realize he's crushing those assignments as he's earned nearly 60 percent of scoring chances and outscored opponents 23-14 away from No. 29.
With Devon Toews sidelined with injury lately, Malinski has capably played his off side next to Cale Makar on the top pair. The 27-year-old pending UFA has performed so well that there's a compelling argument for Colorado to extend Malinski in the summer and then trade Sam Girard, who is a bit redundant as an undersized puck-mover on a sizable $5 million cap hit, ahead of next season.
Wow terrific! One of my favorite all time Cornell players. Thanks for sharing.
One of the all time best defenders with the women's team, Laura Fortino '13, will be at the Olympics representing Team Italy this year. Fortino represented Canada in the 2014 and 2018 games and seems to have been away from playing competitvely for a number of years. A wonderful athletic renaissance and story of family heritage.
Quote from: imafrshmn on January 26, 2026, 11:40:01 AMOne of the all time best defenders with the women's team, Laura Fortino '13, will be at the Olympics representing Team Italy this year. Fortino represented Canada in the 2014 and 2018 games and seems to have been away from playing competitvely for a number of years. A wonderful athletic renaissance and story of family heritage.
She's been playing a few games in Italy's pro league the past couple years, but will be great to see her in the Olympics again
Seger had the game winning goal Friday night for Grand Rapids. It was short handed but only his third goal of the season.
Shane won his Reading debut on Saturday. Not sure why it took so long to get him into a game after the trade?
Quote from: VIEWfromK on January 26, 2026, 02:23:34 PMSeger had the game winning goal Friday night for Grand Rapids. It was short handed but only his third goal of the season.
Shane won his Reading debut on Saturday. Not sure why it took so long to get him into a game after the trade?
Love Seger's game. I hope he can find the touch because everything else is super solid. Size, faceoffs, skating, smarts.
MALINSKI 4X4.75 (https://x.com/puckreportnhl/status/2016201041721626836?s=46)
Quote from: arugula on January 26, 2026, 04:35:10 PMQuote from: VIEWfromK on January 26, 2026, 02:23:34 PMSeger had the game winning goal Friday night for Grand Rapids. It was short handed but only his third goal of the season.
Shane won his Reading debut on Saturday. Not sure why it took so long to get him into a game after the trade?
Love Seger's game. I hope he can find the touch because everything else is super solid. Size, faceoffs, skating, smarts.
Cornell head coach 2040. I mean assuming anyone is still alive.
Quote from: stereax on January 27, 2026, 12:27:21 PMMALINSKI 4X4.75 (https://x.com/puckreportnhl/status/2016201041721626836?s=46)
That is awesome. He bet on himself by going to work with Greg Cronin in an organization full of blue line talent and in short order he has become indispensable
Quote from: VIEWfromK on January 27, 2026, 01:10:40 PMQuote from: stereax on January 27, 2026, 12:27:21 PMMALINSKI 4X4.75 (https://x.com/puckreportnhl/status/2016201041721626836?s=46)
That is awesome. He bet on himself by going to work with Greg Cronin in an organization full of blue line talent and in short order he has become indispensable
I'm so damn happy, dude.
Was perusing the PWHL stats as they started their Olympics break. Brianne Jenner is top 5 in scoring and Rory Guilday is top 5 in points among D. Izzy Daniel starting to get going a bit with 4 G, 2A in her past 8 games.
Quote from: Weder on January 29, 2026, 03:51:24 PMWas perusing the PWHL stats as they started their Olympics break. Brianne Jenner is top 5 in scoring and Rory Guilday is top 5 in points among D. Izzy Daniel starting to get going a bit with 4 G, 2A in her past 8 games.
Guilday has been a BEAST in the P-dub. And my PWHL fantasy.
Sullivan Mack had two goals and was first star in the only upper level minor league game played today.
Ben Berard doing something neat in the AHL all star skills competition:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/1r1lsol/ben_berard_later_called_his_lacrosse_goal_during/
Jacob MacDonald placed on waivers today by the Avalanche. Might be getting close to returning from his injury
https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2026/02/avalanche-place-jacob-macdonald-on-waivers.html#ref=home
I'm shamefully behind but O'Leary had a nice weekend. He capped off three games in three days with a First Star because of two goals and an assist. He had a goal and two assists Friday.
I didn't realize right away that Shane is with Perets AND Petruzzelli forming a former ECAC goaltender three headed monster with Reading. Unfortunately Shane is the odd man out in that trio.
Quote from: VIEWfromK on February 18, 2026, 12:17:34 AMI'm shamefully behind but O'Leary had a nice weekend. He capped off three games in three days with a First Star because of two goals and an assist. He had a goal and two assists Friday.
His team, Norfolk, is abysmal (https://echl.com/standings). The ECHL includes the Nailers and the Railers.
O'Leary had the GWG in OT last night!!
Fan favorite for Norfolk last night for sure!!
Quote from: fastforward on February 21, 2026, 11:15:17 AMO'Leary had the GWG in OT last night!!
Fan favorite for Norfolk last night for sure!!
The Cornell socials posted the announcers calling it! (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVAUIn9jXlO/) And the comments are similarly very delighted for him!
Quote from: VIEWfromK on February 17, 2026, 06:13:14 PMJacob MacDonald placed on waivers today by the Avalanche. Might be getting close to returning from his injury
https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2026/02/avalanche-place-jacob-macdonald-on-waivers.html#ref=home
He scored a goal in his season debut Saturday night. Welcome back Jacob!
Morgan Barron scored his first goal since December 21. What had been a nice start to his season sure changed when Winnipeg got Lowry back. I wonder if Barron will ever get released from a checking role to showcase his offense more like early in this season?
Jack Malone got his first goal of the AHL season on Friday for Utica. Been a tough second year for him but for at least one night he was First Star with an assist to go along with that goal.
Listening to the Kings-Isles game, sounds like another Malott assist.
Barron scored again. Two in three games after that drought. His goals all have the same ingredients . The play starts in the defensive zone. Speed is involved. There's always a beautiful finish. Is he forever a fourth liner in the NHL or will he someday find himself with a bigger role?
Quote from: VIEWfromK on March 05, 2026, 11:22:23 PMBarron scored again. Two in three games after that drought. His goals all have the same ingredients . The play starts in the defensive zone. Speed is involved. There's always a beautiful finish. Is he forever a fourth liner in the NHL or will he someday find himself with a bigger role?
https://www.nhl.com/video/tbl-wpg-barron-scores-goal-against-andrei-vasilevskiy-6390474528112
Quote from: stereax on March 05, 2026, 11:19:20 PMListening to the Kings-Isles game, sounds like another Malott assist.
During the 1st period the pxp guy called Malott "the pride of Cornell" or something to that effect.
Quote from: scoop85 on March 06, 2026, 08:12:28 AMQuote from: stereax on March 05, 2026, 11:19:20 PMListening to the Kings-Isles game, sounds like another Malott assist.
During the 1st period the pxp guy called Malott "the pride of Cornell" or something to that effect.
I'm pretty proud of him!
Gabriel Seger is on a roll. Goals in three straight for Grand Rapids.
Barron scored again. He's on an every other game pace over his last six
Quote from: VIEWfromK on March 11, 2026, 08:34:32 AMBarron scored again. He's on an every other game pace over his last six
https://www.nhl.com/video/ana-wpg-barron-scores-goal-against-lukas-dostal-6390712887112
I didn't realize until the end of the video that it was against Anaheim. Disney is done promoting their little movie franchise so now the team is retconning themselves as the 1980's Flames? Just move to Portland already.
I love the way Barron just pushes the Anaheim player out of the way when he parks himself in front of the goal.
Quote from: RichH on March 11, 2026, 09:17:13 AMI didn't realize until the end of the video that it was against Anaheim. Disney is done promoting their little movie franchise so now the team is retconning themselves as the 1980's Flames? Just move to Portland already.
i hate to say it but the unis look sharp. i don't care if they use the colors from a decades-old movie for kids.
Quote from: RichH on March 11, 2026, 09:17:13 AMI didn't realize until the end of the video that it was against Anaheim. Disney is done promoting their little movie franchise so now the team is retconning themselves as the 1980's Flames? Just move to Portland already.
No, we want an expansion team. Portland Winterhawks is a GOAT name. Gonna have to change the unis, though. I know a great color scheme.
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https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/flames-making-waves-on-u-s-college-front/
Quote from: ugarte on March 11, 2026, 12:03:17 PMQuote from: RichH on March 11, 2026, 09:17:13 AMI didn't realize until the end of the video that it was against Anaheim. Disney is done promoting their little movie franchise so now the team is retconning themselves as the 1980's Flames? Just move to Portland already.
i hate to say it but the unis look sharp. i don't care if they use the colors from a decades-old movie for kids.
But the movie colors were what... 90s teal & purple? The red definitely looks better, that's why I was so surprised to see it was Team Mickey and not the Flames.
Quote from: RichH on March 11, 2026, 02:51:59 PMQuote from: ugarte on March 11, 2026, 12:03:17 PMQuote from: RichH on March 11, 2026, 09:17:13 AMI didn't realize until the end of the video that it was against Anaheim. Disney is done promoting their little movie franchise so now the team is retconning themselves as the 1980's Flames? Just move to Portland already.
i hate to say it but the unis look sharp. i don't care if they use the colors from a decades-old movie for kids.
But the movie colors were what... 90s teal & purple? The red definitely looks better, that's why I was so surprised to see it was Team Mickey and not the Flames.
There's no real reason to have a connection to the movie anymore other than nostalgia. Disney hasn't owned the Ducks for two decades.
Quote from: Weder on March 11, 2026, 03:20:26 PMQuote from: RichH on March 11, 2026, 02:51:59 PMQuote from: ugarte on March 11, 2026, 12:03:17 PMQuote from: RichH on March 11, 2026, 09:17:13 AMI didn't realize until the end of the video that it was against Anaheim. Disney is done promoting their little movie franchise so now the team is retconning themselves as the 1980's Flames? Just move to Portland already.
i hate to say it but the unis look sharp. i don't care if they use the colors from a decades-old movie for kids.
But the movie colors were what... 90s teal & purple? The red definitely looks better, that's why I was so surprised to see it was Team Mickey and not the Flames.
There's no real reason to have a connection to the movie anymore other than nostalgia. Disney hasn't owned the Ducks for two decades.
This is where I admit I haven't paid much attention. They've had orange (for Orange County) in the mix for over 10 years, the current kits since 2024. What a dreadful place to exist with no ties to the theme park.
Quote from: underskill on March 11, 2026, 02:50:28 PMhttps://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/flames-making-waves-on-u-s-college-front/
Man oh man. Didn't realize Calgary stocked up on that many good college players.
Wiebe was a Knights prospect iirc. Part of the Andersson trade, I guess? Anywho, he's in his 22-year-old season. Spent his d+1 in the BCHL, then 3 years at NoDak. Would not be surprised if he signs after their season is over.
The one thing the article notes pretty solidly is that there are 3 spots right now before Calgary hits the 50-contract limit. Of course, if they want to sign more college guys, they can simply shuttle off AHL depth for future considerations, but they've got 3 spots to play with right now.
The latest depth chart has Frost-Strome-Backlund-Pospisil as the centers. That might be the worst center quartet in the NHL right now - a 2C, a guy who got shunted out of the Ducks' lineup, a 3C, and a guy I'm pretty sure usually plays wing. The wingers are, to put it lightly, a mess as well. All this to say, Calgary could reasonably tell Castagna he's getting NHL ice time if he signs and burns a year now - plus, it seems decently likely that he could land a spot out of training camp next year, depending on what Calgary does in the offseason.
In either case, as Cornell fans, we return to worrying about center depth next year with the Walsh and Castagna signing possibilities.
Yeah so he's gone. Sucks because they straight up say he would've stayed had he not been traded. Hopefully Walsh gives it another ride.
Quote from: chimpfood on March 11, 2026, 05:24:12 PMYeah so he's gone. Sucks because they straight up say he would've stayed had he not been traded. Hopefully Walsh gives it another ride.
Wouldn't say it's a SURE thing he's gone - everything we're hearing is he's "open to it", not that he's in any way committed to going. We don't know what Conroy and Castagna (and his agent, presumably) have discussed. That being said, if it was a low chance he was going to Utah after this year, the chance is a lot higher now.
Quote from: chimpfood on March 11, 2026, 05:24:12 PMYeah so he's gone. Sucks because they straight up say he would've stayed had he not been traded. Hopefully Walsh gives it another ride.
tbh i think this probably overstates how honest he was being about an unwillingness to sign with utah. i agree that he
said it but ... saying it is basically his only leverage to encourage a trade. push comes to shove i don't know that he would have ultimately risked injury before signing a pro contract. i don't think he was coming back either way. despite what stereax said while i was typing.
Quote from: ugarte on March 11, 2026, 05:45:31 PMQuote from: chimpfood on March 11, 2026, 05:24:12 PMYeah so he's gone. Sucks because they straight up say he would've stayed had he not been traded. Hopefully Walsh gives it another ride.
tbh i think this probably overstates how honest he was being about an unwillingness to sign with utah. i agree that he said it but ... saying it is basically his only leverage to encourage a trade. push comes to shove i don't know that he would have ultimately risked injury before signing a pro contract. i don't think he was coming back either way. despite what stereax said while i was typing.
I don't agree. He wasn't trying to encourage a trade. By all accounts being traded wasn't even on his radar. Based on what's come out I highly suspect he would have stayed next year had he not been traded as the alternative would have been playing probably the entire season in the minors for less than six figures when he could instead stay his senior year, command a bigger salary and go straight to the NHL as a free agent. I'd say the trade shifted the odds from 80% he comes back to more like 30%...it really sucks.
Quote from: BearLover on March 11, 2026, 06:13:55 PMQuote from: ugarte on March 11, 2026, 05:45:31 PMQuote from: chimpfood on March 11, 2026, 05:24:12 PMYeah so he's gone. Sucks because they straight up say he would've stayed had he not been traded. Hopefully Walsh gives it another ride.
tbh i think this probably overstates how honest he was being about an unwillingness to sign with utah. i agree that he said it but ... saying it is basically his only leverage to encourage a trade. push comes to shove i don't know that he would have ultimately risked injury before signing a pro contract. i don't think he was coming back either way. despite what stereax said while i was typing.
I don't agree. He wasn't trying to encourage a trade. By all accounts being traded wasn't even on his radar. Based on what's come out I highly suspect he would have stayed next year had he not been traded as the alternative would have been playing probably the entire season in the minors for less than six figures when he could instead stay his senior year, command a bigger salary and go straight to the NHL as a free agent. I'd say the trade shifted the odds from 80% he comes back to more like 30%...it really sucks.
Best thing to do going forward is to always assume star players will leave after 3 years at most. If you get a fourth, it's a miracle. It's no one's fault - it's just how it is. Whatever happens, they'll replenish, as they did this year. Every team faces the same thing or worse.
Quote from: adamw on March 11, 2026, 08:42:41 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 11, 2026, 06:13:55 PMQuote from: ugarte on March 11, 2026, 05:45:31 PMQuote from: chimpfood on March 11, 2026, 05:24:12 PMYeah so he's gone. Sucks because they straight up say he would've stayed had he not been traded. Hopefully Walsh gives it another ride.
tbh i think this probably overstates how honest he was being about an unwillingness to sign with utah. i agree that he said it but ... saying it is basically his only leverage to encourage a trade. push comes to shove i don't know that he would have ultimately risked injury before signing a pro contract. i don't think he was coming back either way. despite what stereax said while i was typing.
I don't agree. He wasn't trying to encourage a trade. By all accounts being traded wasn't even on his radar. Based on what's come out I highly suspect he would have stayed next year had he not been traded as the alternative would have been playing probably the entire season in the minors for less than six figures when he could instead stay his senior year, command a bigger salary and go straight to the NHL as a free agent. I'd say the trade shifted the odds from 80% he comes back to more like 30%...it really sucks.
Best thing to do going forward is to always assume star players will leave after 3 years at most. If you get a fourth, it's a miracle. It's no one's fault - it's just how it is. Whatever happens, they'll replenish, as they did this year. Every team faces the same thing or worse.
I wouldn't say it's a miracle—the Ivies (especially Harvard) have gotten four years out of many of their stars. Other teams deal with it too, but they get better talent than us. If we want to make the frozen four or win a national championship, we need our players to stay longer than other teams' to offset the talent disparity. I do agree though with your general premise.
FWIW, RPI has no players this year on its team who entered in 2022, i.e., playing their fourth season in Troy. It's mainly due to the portal in both directions.
Ultimately players will do what is best for them, which is proper. IMO, based on what has happened with early departures in recent history, forwards should go, goalies should stay, and defensemen are case-by-case.
Quote from: Trotsky on March 12, 2026, 03:08:39 AMUltimately players will do what is best for them, which is proper. IMO, based on what has happened with early departures in recent history, forwards should go, goalies should stay, and defensemen are case-by-case.
Forwards should not go. It's a case by case basis, obviously, and to be honest Castagna has a much higher likelihood of success than eg. Bancroft or Angello did when they left. But our early departures have failed to crack the NHL far more often than not regardless of position, and anyone considering leaving before graduation should exercise extreme caution.
AHL salaries are (considerably) lower than a typical intro finance role most Cornell hockey graduates get right out of college.
McNally's mailbag! (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/03/the-suns-playoff-season-mens-hockey-mailbag)
Notably, for everyone wondering, she mentions that, as per the Calgary Herald, Castagna will finish the "season and semester" before deciding whether to turn pro. Which removes some of the "burn a year of ELC" talk - if he's finishing the semester here, he'd sign earliest in May, and the Flames are not making the dance. With that in mind, I'd suspect that if Calgary guarantees him an NHL spot to start next year he's going pro (as, I suspect, anyone would); if they want him in the A, it's more in the air. And it could very well be the case that they put him directly in the NHL - the Flames are a terrible hockey team with zero pressure (in the sense that you're not making the playoffs and indeed probably tanking, so you'll get a much longer leash to develop) and a TON of opportunity to seize a high-minute role. I mean, in a world where you get McKenna on your wing... pretty hard to turn that down.
Again, though - most prospects take some time to marinate in the A. Your exceptions are generally your true blue-chip guys and the occasional undrafted four-year-college pro that explodes while in the NCAA. I mean, hell, guys like Seamus Casey (yes I am a Devils fan how did you know) have been languishing in the A for what feels like too long. However, if Calgary and/or Castagna believe he is "pro-ready" in the sense that he can stick the landing to the NHL, you've got a vastly different story on your hands. In either case, considering Castagna is still pretty young, you've got that wiggle room to, for instance, stay at Cornell next year and then go full NHL pro after next season. (As in - if the question is "AHL or Cornell for a year, then NHL", I really want to believe Casty sticks around for year 4. On your perennial injury worries, the NCAA and especially Ivy League play way fewer games than the AHL. Much more time for conditioning, too - which a ton of players reference as incredibly valuable.)
A comparable here could be Ike Howard - D+1 to D+3 in the NCAA, now in between the Oilers and the A. (Coincidentally, he also wanted a trade due to reduced opportunity with his draft team.) Main difference is that Howard was pretty clearly done with NCAA hockey after his junior season. Casty is still very much up in the air - even if he did tell the Mammoth he wanted out in those words, (which, unlikely, have you met most hockey players?) he still knew about the trade maybe a few hours - even minutes - before the rest of us. (Note that due to tampering stuff, other teams can't talk to Casty until/unless they pick up his rights.) (Also lmao looking through my old texts with a friend and man, the second I heard "Weegar trade" I was like "man if Castagna becomes a FLAME I gotta watch that???" at probably the same time - 5 pm - that he got a call from his agent about it, as per that one podcast he did just after the trade.) So he's still trying to figure out what he wants to do as well - it's not an easy decision, contrary to how so many of us talk about it.
Honestly, this might be a signing after free agency starts and the early July trades go down - at that point, everyone will have more of an idea about how the 26-27 Flames will look (besides, uh, dreadful, have you seen that roster?) and can go from there.
...Or Cornell wins the natty (knock on wood) and none of this "will he stay for another shot" matters anymore 😂
...Besides that, there's a lot of good analysis here - about bracketology, about Jones compared to Schafer, about not being crimebags vs Harvard, etcetera. Very worth a read.
Can Calgary really guarantee him an NHL spot though? Outside of literally giving a veteran player a clause in their contract that says they won't be sent down to the minors (such clause does exist for some veteran players), it seems weird to tell an incoming player he has a guaranteed spot. He's never been a pro, nobody really knows how he'll look in his first year, and it kind of defeats the point of training camp if guys aren't competing for spots.
One positive is Calgary speaking highly of how Cornell plays and develops its players. Makes it more likely pro teams will send prospects to Cornell in the future. Though, still unlikely since that mostly only happens with kids planning to spend 1-2 years there before pros.
Bancroft traded to Nashville in a minor league deal. (https://x.com/i/status/2032117701200789891)
Hopefully the change of scenery helps him out. Nashville's got a bit of a youth movement going on right now.
Quote from: BearLover on March 12, 2026, 11:38:27 AMCan Calgary really guarantee him an NHL spot though? Outside of literally giving a veteran player a clause in their contract that says they won't be sent down to the minors (such clause does exist for some veteran players), it seems weird to tell an incoming player he has a guaranteed spot. He's never been a pro, nobody really knows how he'll look in his first year, and it kind of defeats the point of training camp if guys aren't competing for spots.
One positive is Calgary speaking highly of how Cornell plays and develops its players. Makes it more likely pro teams will send prospects to Cornell in the future. Though, still unlikely since that mostly only happens with kids planning to spend 1-2 years there before pros.
For sure - you can't ever GUARANTEE anything. I say it more as in a "they will move pieces around and pencil him in as an everyday NHLer" way. Again, we have seen similar arrangements where guys make the hop straight to the NHL and have that roster spot guaranteed to them in sorts of handshake deals.
Quote from: stereax on March 12, 2026, 11:41:55 AMQuote from: BearLover on March 12, 2026, 11:38:27 AMCan Calgary really guarantee him an NHL spot though? Outside of literally giving a veteran player a clause in their contract that says they won't be sent down to the minors (such clause does exist for some veteran players), it seems weird to tell an incoming player he has a guaranteed spot. He's never been a pro, nobody really knows how he'll look in his first year, and it kind of defeats the point of training camp if guys aren't competing for spots.
One positive is Calgary speaking highly of how Cornell plays and develops its players. Makes it more likely pro teams will send prospects to Cornell in the future. Though, still unlikely since that mostly only happens with kids planning to spend 1-2 years there before pros.
For sure - you can't ever GUARANTEE anything. I say it more as in a "they will move pieces around and pencil him in as an everyday NHLer" way. Again, we have seen similar arrangements where guys make the hop straight to the NHL and have that roster spot guaranteed to them in sorts of handshake deals.
In Calgary news, it's reported Tyson Gross (college free agent) signed with Calgary (https://x.com/i/status/2032114185656471689) and is going to debut in the NHL this season. Drops Calgary to 2 contract slots. Francis speculates these will be Wiebe and Castagna.
Quote from: BearLover on March 12, 2026, 10:14:22 AMQuote from: Trotsky on March 12, 2026, 03:08:39 AMUltimately players will do what is best for them, which is proper. IMO, based on what has happened with early departures in recent history, forwards should go, goalies should stay, and defensemen are case-by-case.
Forwards should not go. It's a case by case basis, obviously, and to be honest Castagna has a much higher likelihood of success than eg. Bancroft or Angello did when they left. But our early departures have failed to crack the NHL far more often than not regardless of position, and anyone considering leaving before graduation should exercise extreme caution.
AHL salaries are (considerably) lower than a typical intro finance role most Cornell hockey graduates get right out of college.
I'm not sure there's a ton of projecting to be done with the last decade or so of players. Morgan Barron is the only one who has put together a steady starting role for more than a couple seasons, although Sam Malinski appears poised to join that list.
Quote from: BearLover on March 12, 2026, 10:14:22 AMQuote from: Trotsky on March 12, 2026, 03:08:39 AMUltimately players will do what is best for them, which is proper. IMO, based on what has happened with early departures in recent history, forwards should go, goalies should stay, and defensemen are case-by-case.
Forwards should not go. It's a case by case basis, obviously, and to be honest Castagna has a much higher likelihood of success than eg. Bancroft or Angello did when they left. But our early departures have failed to crack the NHL far more often than not regardless of position, and anyone considering leaving before graduation should exercise extreme caution.
AHL salaries are (considerably) lower than a typical intro finance role most Cornell hockey graduates get right out of college.
It's not just Cornell's .... anywhere when player's leave, they're not cracking an NHL lineup more often than not. And that wouldn't matter if they stayed 2, 3, 4 years. Which Harvard "stars" in the last 5 years stayed 4 years? Adam Fox? (see below). This isn't about what I (or anyone) think is best for them - I've ranted about that for 30 years and you might as well save your breath. To me it's better if 99% of the players stayed 4 years. But no player has never listened to me. Until about 2015 or so, you could count on 3 years out of players who were NHL ready. Now you're lucky for 2. And because of the free agency rules, teams push to get drafted players out after 3. If a player stays for their 4th year, it's because they are looking to get away from their drafted team very specifically.
Quote from: adamw on March 12, 2026, 06:37:54 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 12, 2026, 10:14:22 AMQuote from: Trotsky on March 12, 2026, 03:08:39 AMUltimately players will do what is best for them, which is proper. IMO, based on what has happened with early departures in recent history, forwards should go, goalies should stay, and defensemen are case-by-case.
Forwards should not go. It's a case by case basis, obviously, and to be honest Castagna has a much higher likelihood of success than eg. Bancroft or Angello did when they left. But our early departures have failed to crack the NHL far more often than not regardless of position, and anyone considering leaving before graduation should exercise extreme caution.
AHL salaries are (considerably) lower than a typical intro finance role most Cornell hockey graduates get right out of college.
It's not just Cornell's .... anywhere when player's leave, they're not cracking an NHL lineup more often than not. And that wouldn't matter if they stayed 2, 3, 4 years. Which Harvard "stars" in the last 5 years stayed 4 years? Adam Fox? (see below). This isn't about what I (or anyone) think is best for them - I've ranted about that for 30 years and you might as well save your breath. To me it's better if 99% of the players stayed 4 years. But no player has never listened to me. Until about 2015 or so, you could count on 3 years out of players who were NHL ready. Now you're lucky for 2. And because of the free agency rules, teams push to get drafted players out after 3. If a player stays for their 4th year, it's because they are looking to get away from their drafted team very specifically.
Henry Thrun recently
In 2017, Harvard made the Frozen Four with drafted players Tyler Moy, Alexander Kerfoot, and Sean Malone all staying for their senior year and producing over a point per game. (Kerfoot has since had a long NHL career of course.)
In general almost no one leaves Harvard early, 2023 being the exception.
Quote from: BearLover on March 12, 2026, 07:07:24 PMQuote from: adamw on March 12, 2026, 06:37:54 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 12, 2026, 10:14:22 AMQuote from: Trotsky on March 12, 2026, 03:08:39 AMUltimately players will do what is best for them, which is proper. IMO, based on what has happened with early departures in recent history, forwards should go, goalies should stay, and defensemen are case-by-case.
Forwards should not go. It's a case by case basis, obviously, and to be honest Castagna has a much higher likelihood of success than eg. Bancroft or Angello did when they left. But our early departures have failed to crack the NHL far more often than not regardless of position, and anyone considering leaving before graduation should exercise extreme caution.
AHL salaries are (considerably) lower than a typical intro finance role most Cornell hockey graduates get right out of college.
It's not just Cornell's .... anywhere when player's leave, they're not cracking an NHL lineup more often than not. And that wouldn't matter if they stayed 2, 3, 4 years. Which Harvard "stars" in the last 5 years stayed 4 years? Adam Fox? (see below). This isn't about what I (or anyone) think is best for them - I've ranted about that for 30 years and you might as well save your breath. To me it's better if 99% of the players stayed 4 years. But no player has never listened to me. Until about 2015 or so, you could count on 3 years out of players who were NHL ready. Now you're lucky for 2. And because of the free agency rules, teams push to get drafted players out after 3. If a player stays for their 4th year, it's because they are looking to get away from their drafted team very specifically.
Henry Thrun recently
In 2017, Harvard made the Frozen Four with drafted players Tyler Moy, Alexander Kerfoot, and Sean Malone all staying for their senior year and producing over a point per game. (Kerfoot has since had a long NHL career of course.)
In general almost no one leaves Harvard early, 2023 being the exception.
2107 may as well be 150 years ago. And Moy was a late pick, didn't do much for 3 years, never played in the NHL. Malone was hurt a lot in his time - went on to play 2 NHL games - showing, as I said, that it doesn't matter if they stay 3 or 4, most of them aren't getting NHL time anyway. Kerfoot managed to carve out a decent career somehow. Cornell's duo has had a much better 3 years than any of those Harvard guys did at that point. Calling any of them stars as of the end of their junior year is a big stretch. ... Also Kerfoot did not play with the team who drafted him, probably meaning they just didn't care if he stayed. Certainly if you have a situation where a drafted team doesn't care, then players may stay. I don't think that's the case with Castagna or Walsh though. Bruins are excited for them.
Quote from: adamw on March 12, 2026, 07:12:51 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 12, 2026, 07:07:24 PMQuote from: adamw on March 12, 2026, 06:37:54 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 12, 2026, 10:14:22 AMQuote from: Trotsky on March 12, 2026, 03:08:39 AMUltimately players will do what is best for them, which is proper. IMO, based on what has happened with early departures in recent history, forwards should go, goalies should stay, and defensemen are case-by-case.
Forwards should not go. It's a case by case basis, obviously, and to be honest Castagna has a much higher likelihood of success than eg. Bancroft or Angello did when they left. But our early departures have failed to crack the NHL far more often than not regardless of position, and anyone considering leaving before graduation should exercise extreme caution.
AHL salaries are (considerably) lower than a typical intro finance role most Cornell hockey graduates get right out of college.
It's not just Cornell's .... anywhere when player's leave, they're not cracking an NHL lineup more often than not. And that wouldn't matter if they stayed 2, 3, 4 years. Which Harvard "stars" in the last 5 years stayed 4 years? Adam Fox? (see below). This isn't about what I (or anyone) think is best for them - I've ranted about that for 30 years and you might as well save your breath. To me it's better if 99% of the players stayed 4 years. But no player has never listened to me. Until about 2015 or so, you could count on 3 years out of players who were NHL ready. Now you're lucky for 2. And because of the free agency rules, teams push to get drafted players out after 3. If a player stays for their 4th year, it's because they are looking to get away from their drafted team very specifically.
Henry Thrun recently
In 2017, Harvard made the Frozen Four with drafted players Tyler Moy, Alexander Kerfoot, and Sean Malone all staying for their senior year and producing over a point per game. (Kerfoot has since had a long NHL career of course.)
In general almost no one leaves Harvard early, 2023 being the exception.
2107 may as well be 150 years ago. And Moy was a late pick, didn't do much for 3 years, never played in the NHL. Malone was hurt a lot in his time - went on to play 2 NHL games - showing, as I said, that it doesn't matter if they stay 3 or 4, most of them aren't getting NHL time anyway. Kerfoot managed to carve out a decent career somehow. Cornell's duo has had a much better 3 years than any of those Harvard guys did at that point.
Wasn't Kerfoot also draft dodging?
Fox left after this junior year and so did Ryan Donato, so there are quite a few additional examples.
Quote from: Iceberg on March 12, 2026, 07:58:14 PMFox left after this junior year and so did Ryan Donato, so there are quite a few additional examples.
Getting three years out of Fox is more than probably any other school could have gotten, maybe excluding a couple of the other Ivies.
Quote from: BearLover on March 12, 2026, 08:16:34 PMQuote from: Iceberg on March 12, 2026, 07:58:14 PMFox left after this junior year and so did Ryan Donato, so there are quite a few additional examples.
Getting three years out of Fox is more than probably any other school could have gotten, maybe excluding a couple of the other Ivies.
Part of that was Fox begging his way to the Rangers, no?
Quote from: stereax on March 12, 2026, 08:49:26 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 12, 2026, 08:16:34 PMQuote from: Iceberg on March 12, 2026, 07:58:14 PMFox left after this junior year and so did Ryan Donato, so there are quite a few additional examples.
Getting three years out of Fox is more than probably any other school could have gotten, maybe excluding a couple of the other Ivies.
Part of that was Fox begging his way to the Rangers, no?
I think that happened after his junior year, and he was threatening to return for his senior year. Can't really remember though
Quote from: adamw on March 12, 2026, 07:12:51 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 12, 2026, 07:07:24 PMQuote from: adamw on March 12, 2026, 06:37:54 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 12, 2026, 10:14:22 AMQuote from: Trotsky on March 12, 2026, 03:08:39 AMUltimately players will do what is best for them, which is proper. IMO, based on what has happened with early departures in recent history, forwards should go, goalies should stay, and defensemen are case-by-case.
Forwards should not go. It's a case by case basis, obviously, and to be honest Castagna has a much higher likelihood of success than eg. Bancroft or Angello did when they left. But our early departures have failed to crack the NHL far more often than not regardless of position, and anyone considering leaving before graduation should exercise extreme caution.
AHL salaries are (considerably) lower than a typical intro finance role most Cornell hockey graduates get right out of college.
It's not just Cornell's .... anywhere when player's leave, they're not cracking an NHL lineup more often than not. And that wouldn't matter if they stayed 2, 3, 4 years. Which Harvard "stars" in the last 5 years stayed 4 years? Adam Fox? (see below). This isn't about what I (or anyone) think is best for them - I've ranted about that for 30 years and you might as well save your breath. To me it's better if 99% of the players stayed 4 years. But no player has never listened to me. Until about 2015 or so, you could count on 3 years out of players who were NHL ready. Now you're lucky for 2. And because of the free agency rules, teams push to get drafted players out after 3. If a player stays for their 4th year, it's because they are looking to get away from their drafted team very specifically.
Henry Thrun recently
In 2017, Harvard made the Frozen Four with drafted players Tyler Moy, Alexander Kerfoot, and Sean Malone all staying for their senior year and producing over a point per game. (Kerfoot has since had a long NHL career of course.)
In general almost no one leaves Harvard early, 2023 being the exception.
2107 may as well be 150 years ago. And Moy was a late pick, didn't do much for 3 years, never played in the NHL. Malone was hurt a lot in his time - went on to play 2 NHL games - showing, as I said, that it doesn't matter if they stay 3 or 4, most of them aren't getting NHL time anyway. Kerfoot managed to carve out a decent career somehow. Cornell's duo has had a much better 3 years than any of those Harvard guys did at that point. Calling any of them stars as of the end of their junior year is a big stretch. ... Also Kerfoot did not play with the team who drafted him, probably meaning they just didn't care if he stayed. Certainly if you have a situation where a drafted team doesn't care, then players may stay. I don't think that's the case with Castagna or Walsh though. Bruins are excited for them.
Quote from: adamw on March 12, 2026, 07:12:51 PM2107 may as well be 150 years ago.
Or 81 years in the future. (Sorry. Couldn't resist.)
Quote from: andyw2100 on March 12, 2026, 10:31:04 PMQuote from: adamw on March 12, 2026, 07:12:51 PM2107 may as well be 150 years ago.
Or 81 years in the future. (Sorry. Couldn't resist.)
Mandatory (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic).
I guess I was like 60/40 on Casty staying for a Senior year, especially if Walsh was staying, in order to win a Natty. But now, 95/5 that he goes. I'd love to see him back, but, when you get a chance to go to the show, even the AHL, you have to go. I'm not sure, beyond hardware, he has to prove or develop while at Cornell.
Quote from: The Rancor on March 13, 2026, 11:27:25 AMI guess I was like 60/40 on Casty staying for a Senior year, especially if Walsh was staying, in order to win a Natty. But now, 95/5 that he goes. I'd love to see him back, but, when you get a chance to go to the show, even the AHL, you have to go. I'm not sure, beyond hardware, he has to prove or develop while at Cornell.
The AHL is not the show. Not even close. Many players each season have the opportunity to sign an AHL deal and opt to return to college, rightfully so.
Quote from: BearLover on March 13, 2026, 11:47:37 AMQuote from: The Rancor on March 13, 2026, 11:27:25 AMI guess I was like 60/40 on Casty staying for a Senior year, especially if Walsh was staying, in order to win a Natty. But now, 95/5 that he goes. I'd love to see him back, but, when you get a chance to go to the show, even the AHL, you have to go. I'm not sure, beyond hardware, he has to prove or develop while at Cornell.
The AHL is not the show. Not even close. Many players each season have the opportunity to sign an AHL deal and opt to return to college, rightfully so.
The AHL plays about 40 more games than a college season and its players are full-time hockey players. I have to figure it's better for development in that regard than staying in college, at least on average.
Quote from: Dafatone on March 13, 2026, 12:07:52 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 13, 2026, 11:47:37 AMQuote from: The Rancor on March 13, 2026, 11:27:25 AMI guess I was like 60/40 on Casty staying for a Senior year, especially if Walsh was staying, in order to win a Natty. But now, 95/5 that he goes. I'd love to see him back, but, when you get a chance to go to the show, even the AHL, you have to go. I'm not sure, beyond hardware, he has to prove or develop while at Cornell.
The AHL is not the show. Not even close. Many players each season have the opportunity to sign an AHL deal and opt to return to college, rightfully so.
The AHL plays about 40 more games than a college season and its players are full-time hockey players. I have to figure it's better for development in that regard than staying in college, at least on average.
Depends on a lot of factors. Castagna or Walsh would certainly get way more playing time and play way more roles (PK, PP, etc) at Cornell. But my main point is that it's not "the show," in the sense that life in the AHL is not luxurious in the least, from salaries to road trips to the grind of 80 games a year.
Quote from: BearLover on March 13, 2026, 12:23:34 PMQuote from: Dafatone on March 13, 2026, 12:07:52 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 13, 2026, 11:47:37 AMQuote from: The Rancor on March 13, 2026, 11:27:25 AMI guess I was like 60/40 on Casty staying for a Senior year, especially if Walsh was staying, in order to win a Natty. But now, 95/5 that he goes. I'd love to see him back, but, when you get a chance to go to the show, even the AHL, you have to go. I'm not sure, beyond hardware, he has to prove or develop while at Cornell.
The AHL is not the show. Not even close. Many players each season have the opportunity to sign an AHL deal and opt to return to college, rightfully so.
The AHL plays about 40 more games than a college season and its players are full-time hockey players. I have to figure it's better for development in that regard than staying in college, at least on average.
Depends on a lot of factors. Castagna or Walsh would certainly get way more playing time and play way more roles (PK, PP, etc) at Cornell. But my main point is that it's not "the show," in the sense that life in the AHL is not luxurious in the least, from salaries to road trips to the grind of 80 games a year.
That's certainly true, though I'd guess there would be a signing bonus involved.
Quote from: Dafatone on March 13, 2026, 12:07:52 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 13, 2026, 11:47:37 AMQuote from: The Rancor on March 13, 2026, 11:27:25 AMI guess I was like 60/40 on Casty staying for a Senior year, especially if Walsh was staying, in order to win a Natty. But now, 95/5 that he goes. I'd love to see him back, but, when you get a chance to go to the show, even the AHL, you have to go. I'm not sure, beyond hardware, he has to prove or develop while at Cornell.
The AHL is not the show. Not even close. Many players each season have the opportunity to sign an AHL deal and opt to return to college, rightfully so.
The AHL plays about 40 more games than a college season and its players are full-time hockey players. I have to figure it's better for development in that regard than staying in college, at least on average.
People like the Flyers vis-a-vis Porter Martone are on record (https://brotherlybullies.com/porter-martone-2/) about the difference (https://rg.org/en-ca/news/hockey/porter-martone-ncaa-bet-future-philadelphia-flyers) between the CHL (which is, I think, a 70ish game season and then playoff series) and NCAA -
He's up 9lbs and down 4% body fat.
"It's not just weight. I feel stronger, more explosive. My muscle density is better. I can feel it in battles and around the net."
You can tell."I'm shocked at how fast his body is changing. When I talk to the trainers, they are like man you can see it changing," Armstrong said. "The biggest part of it too, in Junior, they play 72 games. Now they're playing 36 playoff games, maybe 45 or something like that, where he's getting a lot more gym time."Once you hit a pro schedule, you have less time to train, to learn, to hit the gym, to do stuff like that.
Your average AHL age by team is between a high 23 and low 26. Average NCAA is generally between a high 20 (BU, go away, you're an outlier) and a low 23. So you do "graduate" a bit, agewise, and you get more onto a "pro" schedule again - but that doesn't necessarily mean it's better for your development. There are a bunch of factors involved here. (Including the fact that the AHL is a fighting league and can occasionally devolve into a gongshow...)
Again, we don't even know if the plan for Castagna is to have him season in the A or try to jump him straight into the NHL. We don't know if the Flames view him as a guy who maxes out at a bottom-six center or if they think there's potential for him to be a 2C. That's something that really only the Flames and Casty himself are aware of.
Quote from: Dafatone on March 13, 2026, 12:53:08 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 13, 2026, 12:23:34 PMQuote from: Dafatone on March 13, 2026, 12:07:52 PMQuote from: BearLover on March 13, 2026, 11:47:37 AMQuote from: The Rancor on March 13, 2026, 11:27:25 AMI guess I was like 60/40 on Casty staying for a Senior year, especially if Walsh was staying, in order to win a Natty. But now, 95/5 that he goes. I'd love to see him back, but, when you get a chance to go to the show, even the AHL, you have to go. I'm not sure, beyond hardware, he has to prove or develop while at Cornell.
The AHL is not the show. Not even close. Many players each season have the opportunity to sign an AHL deal and opt to return to college, rightfully so.
The AHL plays about 40 more games than a college season and its players are full-time hockey players. I have to figure it's better for development in that regard than staying in college, at least on average.
Depends on a lot of factors. Castagna or Walsh would certainly get way more playing time and play way more roles (PK, PP, etc) at Cornell. But my main point is that it's not "the show," in the sense that life in the AHL is not luxurious in the least, from salaries to road trips to the grind of 80 games a year.
That's certainly true, though I'd guess there would be a signing bonus involved.
SB is capped at I think 10% of contract value on ELCs - like Bancroft's contract value is 975k (950k base salary + 25k bonus at 5 GP in the NHL), so his SB was 97,500. That being said, for guys on ELCs, they have a standard contract value, plus the minors salary is WAY lower - for Bancroft, 85k. In that sense, he "makes" just shy of 200k this year. However, given his production, it's somewhat unlikely he gets another NHL deal - and the WBS Pens point out that the average AHL salary (https://www.wbspenguins.com/blog/ahl-player-development/) is only between 40k and 90k. Yeah, the SB is a lump sum payment, but...
Here's something I don't think I've seen mentioned...
Not tempting the woofing gods here, but should Cornell manage to win the ECAC Championship, anyone think that that could have an impact on Castagna's decision? I believe he would then have a chance to be among the first Cornell players to win an ECAC championship all four years, as I don't believe freshman were allowed to play on the 1967 varsity team, and the only time Cornell has won four straight ECAC championships was 1967-1970.
I realize winning the championship is a ways off, and even if it happens, it may not be a factor, but I hope it may be.
Quote from: andyw2100 on March 13, 2026, 03:17:52 PMNot tempting the woofing gods here, but should Cornell manage to win the ECAC Championship, anyone think that that could have an impact on Castagna's decision? I believe he would then have a chance to be among the first Cornell players to win an ECAC championship all four years...
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Quote from: andyw2100 on March 13, 2026, 03:17:52 PMHere's something I don't think I've seen mentioned...
Not tempting the woofing gods here, but should Cornell manage to win the ECAC Championship, anyone think that that could have an impact on Castagna's decision? I believe he would then have a chance to be among the first Cornell players to win an ECAC championship all four years, as I don't believe freshman were allowed to play on the 1967 varsity team, and the only time Cornell has won four straight ECAC championships was 1967-1970.
I realize winning the championship is a ways off, and even if it happens, it may not be a factor, but I hope it may be.
I do not think the team's performance would influence him short of winning the NCAA title. At that point I can see him thinking there was nothing more he could experience or achieve in college hockey.
I am willing to risk losing him early in that eventuality.
Barron vs. Malinski (starting at 4pm) is a nice appetizer before our Game 2 this evening.
Both were on the ice for the opening faceoff (which Morgan won), and we got a quick mention of "the former teammates at Cornell" by the Winnipeg announcer.
Two assists for Barron this afternoon, including one that sprung Kyle Connor on a breakaway for the Winnipeg GWG.
Although Barron has been a bit "hot and cold" at times this season, he has now eclipsed his previous career best for points in an NHL season with 10G, 12A. He also got there in 13 fewer games than it took in his previous best season ('22-23).
I had a Dalton Bancroft sighting last night. The LV Phantoms played the Providence Bruins, his team.
He didn't get a lot of ice time, but at least he's playing.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 19, 2026, 08:33:55 PMI had a Dalton Bancroft sighting last night. The LV Phantoms played the Providence Bruins, his team.
He didn't get a lot of ice time, but at least he's playing.
Are you yanking our chain? He plays for Milwaukee now. They are in Manitoba tonight. He is playing
Quote from: VIEWfromK on March 19, 2026, 09:12:06 PMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 19, 2026, 08:33:55 PMI had a Dalton Bancroft sighting last night. The LV Phantoms played the Providence Bruins, his team.
He didn't get a lot of ice time, but at least he's playing.
Are you yanking our chain? He plays for Milwaukee now. They are in Manitoba tonight. He is playing
I could swear I saw him. Guess not. My bad.
Bancroft had the first multi-point game of his pro career with two assists tonight vs Seger and Grand Rapids
Malinski off the schneid with his first goal in 27 games:
https://www.nhl.com/video/col-pit-malinski-scores-goal-against-arturs-silovs-6391579590112
I missed that Bancroft was traded with Rizzo (Denver) to Nashville. Moved from Providence to Milwaukee.
Barron dropped the gloves to try to exact some payback after taking a big hit, and it did not go well: https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/1s4t01o/josh_manson_lays_out_morgan_barron_then_drops_the/
The postgame report indicates he is now in concussion protocol and must be medically cleared before he can return to the lineup.
Quote from: sah67 on March 26, 2026, 11:58:25 PMBarron dropped the gloves to try to exact some payback after taking a big hit, and it did not go well: https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/1s4t01o/josh_manson_lays_out_morgan_barron_then_drops_the/
The postgame report indicates he is now in concussion protocol and must be medically cleared before he can return to the lineup.
Oof!
Watching the PWHL game between NY and Montreal.
Zandee-Hart with a nice shot from the point that was beautifully tipped in by O'Neill. Unfortunately, video review determined it was a high stick. When the ruling was announced, the camera panned to O'Neill just as she dropped an f-bomb. ;D
The Avs are demolishing Calgary and Malinski went forehand-backhand on an odd-man rush to make it 8-1:
https://sports.yahoo.com/videos/sam-malinski-goal-vs-calgary-024922714.html
Sam is now sitting on 5G, 29A for the season, more than doubling his output from last season, and also giving him the record for most points in a single NHL season by a Cornell d-man (eclipsing Doug Murray's 17-point campaign for San Jose in 09-10).
Malinski has 2 goals in a wild one against the lowly Canucks, where the Avs climbed back from a 6-2 deficit to tie it at 6 (Malinski's second), only to go down 7-6 again with a few mins left now.
Quote from: sah67 on April 01, 2026, 11:11:13 PMMalinski has 2 goals in a wild one against the lowly Canucks, where the Avs climbed back from a 6-2 deficit to tie it at 6 (Malinski's second), only to go down 7-6 again with a few mins left now.
https://www.nhl.com/video/van-col-malinski-scores-goal-against-kevin-lankinen-6392404651112
and
https://www.nhl.com/video/van-col-malinski-scores-goal-against-kevin-lankinen-6392408299112
Malinski is going to end up very high on the list of most successful NHL careers by a Cornellian.
Quote from: CU2007 on April 02, 2026, 10:48:22 PMMalinski is going to end up very high on the list of most successful NHL careers by a Cornellian.
damn near impossible to get higher than three
Quote from: ugarte on April 02, 2026, 11:58:37 PMQuote from: CU2007 on April 02, 2026, 10:48:22 PMMalinski is going to end up very high on the list of most successful NHL careers by a Cornellian.
damn near impossible to get higher than three
Who is #3 right now anyway?
Quote from: stereax on April 02, 2026, 11:59:03 PMQuote from: ugarte on April 02, 2026, 11:58:37 PMQuote from: CU2007 on April 02, 2026, 10:48:22 PMMalinski is going to end up very high on the list of most successful NHL careers by a Cornellian.
damn near impossible to get higher than three
Who is #3 right now anyway?
Matt Moulson, most likely. Brian Hayward and Douglas Murray are in the discussion.
Riley Nash had a much longer NHL career than I realized.
https://www.hockey-reference.com/amateurs/team.cgi?t=cor01
Please don't kill me for saying this but for a program with so much team success...we have really not done well at producing NHL players. Maybe that's starting to change now.
Quote from: Dafatone on April 03, 2026, 12:29:58 AMRiley Nash had a much longer NHL career than I realized.
http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html
Quote from: Dafatone on April 03, 2026, 12:29:58 AMQuote from: stereax on April 02, 2026, 11:59:03 PMWho is #3 right now anyway?
Matt Moulson, most likely.
I vote Manderville (http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html).
1. Dryden
2. Nieuwendyk
3. Manderville
4. Hayward
5. Moulson
6. Murray
7. O'Byrne
8. R. Nash
9. Barron
10. Chartrand
Quote from: Trotsky on April 03, 2026, 05:40:38 AMQuote from: Dafatone on April 03, 2026, 12:29:58 AMQuote from: stereax on April 02, 2026, 11:59:03 PMWho is #3 right now anyway?
Matt Moulson, most likely.
I vote Manderville (http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html).
1. Dryden
2. Nieuwendyk
3. Manderville
4. Hayward
5. Moulson
6. Murray
7. O'Byrne
8. R. Nash
9. Barron
10. Chartrand
I'd probably flip Nash / O'B and Moulson / Hayward, but all-in-all that's a pretty good list.
Quote from: BearLover on April 03, 2026, 01:07:09 AMPlease don't kill me for saying this but for a program with so much team success...we have really not done well at producing NHL players. Maybe that's starting to change now.
Fair statement. We did have a protracted period 10-15 years ago where we had 7 guys playing simultaneously, but typically that was about 4 regulars and 3 cups of coffee.
For 30 years, Schafer attracted the type of player who performed well within a team but was not a balls out blue chipper. Partly this was his preference and partly it was a calculated and pragmatic necessity. First rounders are just not ordinarily interested in a serious academic environment. It is a needless distraction from their aims and a potential obstacle to their development.
Will it be different under the NWO? Who knows? I always thought we were well positioned to take advantage of a more Wild West sports environment. We have low admissions enclaves to hide the rockheads. We have somewhat less of a branding hangup so we won't be as embarrassed by winning. And while we have fewer rich douchebro alumni than HYP and Dartmouth who need to compensate for their impotence by buying their alma mater titles... we still have
some (https://x.com/grok/status/1976647420483412230) and of all the Ivies we are most hockey-forward.
People seem to be forgetting Scrivens, who had a solid career that included a 59 save shutout.
Quote from: Trotsky on April 03, 2026, 05:40:38 AMI vote Manderville (http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html).
1. Dryden
2. Nieuwendyk
3. Manderville
4. Hayward
5. Moulson
6. Murray
7. O'Byrne
8. R. Nash
9. Barron
10. Chartrand
I would definitely have Greening and Scrivens in the top 10. And either one could easily replace O'Byrne, who played a handful of partial seasons and was mostly on the wrong side of +-.
Quote from: sah67 on April 03, 2026, 09:46:18 AMQuote from: scoop85 on April 03, 2026, 09:06:39 AMPeople seem to be forgetting Scrivens, who had a solid career that included a 59 save shutout.
Greening's c
Quote from: Trotsky on April 03, 2026, 05:40:38 AMQuote from: Dafatone on April 03, 2026, 12:29:58 AMQuote from: stereax on April 02, 2026, 11:59:03 PMWho is #3 right now anyway?
Matt Moulson, most likely.
I vote Manderville (http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Alumni.html).
1. Dryden
2. Nieuwendyk
3. Manderville
4. Hayward
5. Moulson
6. Murray
7. O'Byrne
8. R. Nash
9. Barron
10. Chartrand
I would definitely have Greening and Scrivens in the top 10 (and either one could easily replace O'Byrne, who played a handful of partial seasons and was mostly on the wrong side of +-.
3 Moulson had 369 points. He's the clear #3 for now.
4 Hayward
5 Murray
6 (tied) Manderville/Riley Nash seem to have identical careers in the NHL
8 Malinski - I agree with the poster that he's on a trajectory for top 3
9 Scrivens
10 Barron
Quote from: BearLover on April 03, 2026, 01:07:09 AMPlease don't kill me for saying this but for a program with so much team success...we have really not done well at producing NHL players. Maybe that's starting to change now.
that's how you end up with talented seniors
This might help
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/team-nhl/Cornell/18
Quote from: adamw on April 03, 2026, 11:33:32 AMThis might help
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/team-nhl/Cornell/18
did d'alessio get injured? wild that he got a cup of coffee in '92-93 then played a single AHL game the next season and then fell off the planet.
Would like to see Malott pass Heyward and Dryden on the career points leaderboard.
Quote from: ugarte on April 03, 2026, 12:09:28 PMQuote from: adamw on April 03, 2026, 11:33:32 AMThis might help
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/team-nhl/Cornell/18
did d'alessio get injured? wild that he got a cup of coffee in '92-93 then played a single AHL game the next season and then fell off the planet.
Not sure where you got single AHL game - the same season as his cup of coffee with the Whalers (literally less than a game), he played 23 games in the AHL (Springfield), then the
following season played one game in the IHL. I think the 4.13 GAA and .853 save % for Springfield might have had something to do with why his career ended.
Quote from: Beeeej on April 03, 2026, 12:14:35 PMQuote from: ugarte on April 03, 2026, 12:09:28 PMQuote from: adamw on April 03, 2026, 11:33:32 AMThis might help
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/team-nhl/Cornell/18
did d'alessio get injured? wild that he got a cup of coffee in '92-93 then played a single AHL game the next season and then fell off the planet.
Not sure where you got single AHL game - the same season as his cup of coffee with the Whalers (literally less than a game), he played 23 games in the AHL (Springfield), then the following season played one game in the IHL. I think the 4.13 GAA and .853 save % for Springfield might have had something to do with why his career ended.
yes, that's what i meant. a cup of coffee amid the 92-93 season *then* only one game the following year. i can understand why he might have bounced around after the bad year in springfield but to have one (pretty good!) game in LV and then never again is a pattern that suggests an injury. i (we!) overlapped with him at cornell and he was a very highly regarded prospect (on campus) even though he shared time with Crozier who was far less heralded.
Quote from: ugarte on April 03, 2026, 12:19:35 PMQuote from: Beeeej on April 03, 2026, 12:14:35 PMQuote from: ugarte on April 03, 2026, 12:09:28 PMQuote from: adamw on April 03, 2026, 11:33:32 AMThis might help
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/team-nhl/Cornell/18
did d'alessio get injured? wild that he got a cup of coffee in '92-93 then played a single AHL game the next season and then fell off the planet.
Not sure where you got single AHL game - the same season as his cup of coffee with the Whalers (literally less than a game), he played 23 games in the AHL (Springfield), then the following season played one game in the IHL. I think the 4.13 GAA and .853 save % for Springfield might have had something to do with why his career ended.
yes, that's what i meant. a cup of coffee amid the 92-93 season *then* only one game the following year. i can understand why he might have bounced around after the bad year in springfield but to have one (pretty good!) game in LV and then never again is a pattern that suggests an injury. i (we!) overlapped with him at cornell and he was a very highly regarded prospect (on campus) even though he shared time with Crozier who was far less heralded.
Got it - your notion of one game specifically in the AHL, rather than IHL, was what confused me. Anyway, I found this from the amusingly named "Hartford Whalers Legends" blog:
https://whalerslegends.blogspot.com/2011/03/corrie-dalessio.html
No injury is mentioned, just minor league struggles leading to his exit for greener pastures. Could be just speculation, of course. But remember IHL teams weren't affiliated with NHL teams and the entire league was already struggling in 1994, so it's not shocking that Corrie might have thought continuing with Las Vegas wasn't his best option, if it was even an option open to him.
Quote from: adamw on April 03, 2026, 11:33:32 AMThis might help
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/team-nhl/Cornell/18
Thanks! Naturally, Ryan O'Byrne the only one over 1 PIM/game.
God I loved him.
Sorry that I originally posted the following on the wrong thread.
I just felt like doing this for RPI.
It is obvious to me that only half of this list is of comparible NHL achievement to all of Cornell's. This makes me even happier that the currently known recruit list for 2026 is IMHO significantly better than Cornell's. (I add that neither Heisenberg's list nor CHN agrees with the 8 players Coach Lang hinted at recently. CHN includes these eight but also others who are unlikely to be arriving this year or in some cases ever. The coach said that he wants to add up to four more including from the evil portal.) BTW, I did not give Neil Little any credit for all the times that the Flyers recalled him only to be the backup sieve. The advantages of having an AHL team in the same town.
1. Adam Oates
2. Daren Puppa
3. Joé Juneau
4. Mike McPhee
5. Brian Pothier
6. Brandon Pirri
7. John Carter
8. Ken Hammond
9. Kraig Nienhuis
10.. Graeme Townshend
Quote from: tretiak on April 03, 2026, 10:12:45 AMMoulson had 369 points. He's the clear #3 for now.
Manderville was a lauded defensive forward.
How many goals did Dryden score?
Quote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 02:27:39 PMSorry that I originally posted the following on the wrong thread.
I just felt like doing this for RPI.
It is obvious to me that only half of this list is of comparible NHL achievement to all of Cornell's. This makes me even happier that the currently known recruit list for 2026 is IMHO significantly better than Cornell's. (I add that neither Heisenberg's list nor CHN agrees with the 8 players Coach Lang hinted at recently. CHN includes these eight but also others who are unlikely to be arriving this year or in some cases ever. The coach said that he wants to add up to four more including from the evil portal.) BTW, I did not give Neil Little any credit for all the times that the Flyers recalled him only to be the backup sieve. The advantages of having an AHL team in the same town.
1. Adam Oates
2. Daren Puppa
3. Joé Juneau
4. Mike McPhee
5. Brian Pothier
6. Brandon Pirri
7. John Carter
8. Ken Hammond
9. Kraig Nienhuis
10.. Graeme Towhshend
Half that team was on the ice at the same time. RPI '85 was something to see.
Wasn't Barrasso RPI, or have I gone insane?
Was Townshend the guy who Adessa (the coach is fat!!!) made his you can't do that clap clap, clap clap clap about?
Quote from: Trotsky on April 03, 2026, 02:36:08 PMWasn't Barrasso RPI, or have I gone insane?
that happened a long time ago, bro
Quote from: Dafatone on April 03, 2026, 12:45:17 PMQuote from: adamw on April 03, 2026, 11:33:32 AMThis might help
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/team-nhl/Cornell/18
Thanks! Naturally, Ryan O'Byrne the only one over 1 PIM/game.
God I loved him.
Mandatory.
(https://alchetron.com/cdn/ryan-obyrne-0d0461f9-ab7f-4abb-a556-06409a3e89d-resize-750.jpeg)
Elite Prospects says Tom Barrasso jumped to the Sabres from Acton-Boxborough High. Holy shit.
Quote from: Beeeej on April 03, 2026, 12:30:46 PMQuote from: ugarte on April 03, 2026, 12:19:35 PMQuote from: Beeeej on April 03, 2026, 12:14:35 PMQuote from: ugarte on April 03, 2026, 12:09:28 PMQuote from: adamw on April 03, 2026, 11:33:32 AMThis might help
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/team-nhl/Cornell/18
did d'alessio get injured? wild that he got a cup of coffee in '92-93 then played a single AHL game the next season and then fell off the planet.
Not sure where you got single AHL game - the same season as his cup of coffee with the Whalers (literally less than a game), he played 23 games in the AHL (Springfield), then the following season played one game in the IHL. I think the 4.13 GAA and .853 save % for Springfield might have had something to do with why his career ended.
yes, that's what i meant. a cup of coffee amid the 92-93 season *then* only one game the following year. i can understand why he might have bounced around after the bad year in springfield but to have one (pretty good!) game in LV and then never again is a pattern that suggests an injury. i (we!) overlapped with him at cornell and he was a very highly regarded prospect (on campus) even though he shared time with Crozier who was far less heralded.
Got it - your notion of one game specifically in the AHL, rather than IHL, was what confused me. Anyway, I found this from the amusingly named "Hartford Whalers Legends" blog:
https://whalerslegends.blogspot.com/2011/03/corrie-dalessio.html
No injury is mentioned, just minor league struggles leading to his exit for greener pastures. Could be just speculation, of course. But remember IHL teams weren't affiliated with NHL teams and the entire league was already struggling in 1994, so it's not shocking that Corrie might have thought continuing with Las Vegas wasn't his best option, if it was even an option open to him.
Corrie D'Alessio meeting with the Whalers GM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Le4sGUeXTk).
Quote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 02:27:39 PMThis makes me even happier that the currently known recruit list for 2026 is IMHO significantly better than Cornell's.
Huh
Quote from: sah67 on April 03, 2026, 09:46:18 AMI would definitely have Greening ... in the top 10.
You have convinced me. I swap out Chartrand for Greening.
Quote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 02:27:39 PMThis makes me even happier that the currently known recruit list for 2026 is IMHO significantly better than Cornell's.
We look forward to their transfers.
No, I am not that much of a jerk.
Quote from: ugarte on April 03, 2026, 02:43:13 PMCorrie D'Alessio meeting with the Whalers GM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Le4sGUeXTk).
Actual footage from Corrie D'Alessio's final appearance in goal (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ingab6VHbac).
Quote from: Trotsky on April 03, 2026, 02:36:08 PMQuote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 02:27:39 PMSorry that I originally posted the following on the wrong thread.
I just felt like doing this for RPI.
It is obvious to me that only half of this list is of comparible NHL achievement to all of Cornell's. This makes me even happier that the currently known recruit list for 2026 is IMHO significantly better than Cornell's. (I add that neither Heisenberg's list nor CHN agrees with the 8 players Coach Lang hinted at recently. CHN includes these eight but also others who are unlikely to be arriving this year or in some cases ever. The coach said that he wants to add up to four more including from the evil portal.) BTW, I did not give Neil Little any credit for all the times that the Flyers recalled him only to be the backup sieve. The advantages of having an AHL team in the same town.
1. Adam Oates
2. Daren Puppa
3. Joé Juneau
4. Mike McPhee
5. Brian Pothier
6. Brandon Pirri
7. John Carter
8. Ken Hammond
9. Kraig Nienhuis
10.. Graeme Towhshend
Half that team was on the ice at the same time. RPI '85 was something to see.
Wasn't Barrasso RPI, or have I gone insane?
Was Townshend the guy who Adessa (the coach is fat!!!) made his you can't do that clap clap, clap clap clap about?
Barrasso was drafted by Buffalo the same year that Puppa was, but he never played for RPI or any college. I vaguely recall that someone recruited him.
Townshend supposedly caused Adessa to be fired.
Five of those did play for the 1985 NCAA championship team (Oates, Puppa, Carter, Hammond, Nienhuis). So did Mike Dark, Tim Friday, and George Servinis each of whom did play at least some in the NHL. I think that is all. I suspect that Mark Jooris could have.
Quote from: Trotsky on April 03, 2026, 02:50:19 PMQuote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 02:27:39 PMThis makes me even happier that the currently known recruit list for 2026 is IMHO significantly better than Cornell's.
We look forward to their transfers.
That wouldn't surprise me, but we will see in a year. I suspect that most, if not all, RPI's losses this offseason will be players whom we want to lose.
Any coach who could get AIC to win anything is talented. He might get attracted elsewhere if RPI makes the NCAA tourney in the next couple of years. I will be happy next year if RPI makes Lake Placid for the first time ever.
Quote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 03:00:26 PMQuote from: Trotsky on April 03, 2026, 02:36:08 PMQuote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 02:27:39 PMSorry that I originally posted the following on the wrong thread.
I just felt like doing this for RPI.
It is obvious to me that only half of this list is of comparible NHL achievement to all of Cornell's. This makes me even happier that the currently known recruit list for 2026 is IMHO significantly better than Cornell's. (I add that neither Heisenberg's list nor CHN agrees with the 8 players Coach Lang hinted at recently. CHN includes these eight but also others who are unlikely to be arriving this year or in some cases ever. The coach said that he wants to add up to four more including from the evil portal.) BTW, I did not give Neil Little any credit for all the times that the Flyers recalled him only to be the backup sieve. The advantages of having an AHL team in the same town.
1. Adam Oates
2. Daren Puppa
3. Joé Juneau
4. Mike McPhee
5. Brian Pothier
6. Brandon Pirri
7. John Carter
8. Ken Hammond
9. Kraig Nienhuis
10.. Graeme Towhshend
Half that team was on the ice at the same time. RPI '85 was something to see.
Wasn't Barrasso RPI, or have I gone insane?
Was Townshend the guy who Adessa (the coach is fat!!!) made his you can't do that clap clap, clap clap clap about?
Barrasso was drafted by Buffalo the same year that Puppa was, but he never played for RPI oe any college. I vaguely recall that someone recruited him.
Townshend supposedly caused Adessa to be fired.
Four of those played for the 1985 NCAA championship team (Oates, Puppa, Carter, Hammond). So did Mike Dark, Tim Friday, and George Servinis each of whom did play at least some in the NHL. I think that is all. I suspect that Mark Jooris could have.
I recently heard from the mother of a RPI connected guy that Adessa was being investigated for shenanigans not related to Townshend. She said that the Townshend story was public but the other crap he pulled was not. Her son and his friends were called in to spill the beans on Adessa. She didn't say he refused to rat him out but I think that is what she meant. She's a very nice woman but we tend to talk at each other rather than have conversations. I need a translator when I talk her.
We got on the subject of under the table actions when I mentioned some stories about NIL and such.
Quote from: Trotsky on April 03, 2026, 02:33:23 PMQuote from: tretiak on April 03, 2026, 10:12:45 AMMoulson had 369 points. He's the clear #3 for now.
Manderville was a lauded defensive forward.
How many goals did Dryden score?
Do you have any stats for that? I don't know how good the analytics are from that era but Moulson has 4 more DPS than Manderville.
Quote from: Trotsky on April 03, 2026, 02:36:08 PMQuote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 02:27:39 PMSorry that I originally posted the following on the wrong thread.
I just felt like doing this for RPI.
It is obvious to me that only half of this list is of comparible NHL achievement to all of Cornell's. This makes me even happier that the currently known recruit list for 2026 is IMHO significantly better than Cornell's. (I add that neither Heisenberg's list nor CHN agrees with the 8 players Coach Lang hinted at recently. CHN includes these eight but also others who are unlikely to be arriving this year or in some cases ever. The coach said that he wants to add up to four more including from the evil portal.) BTW, I did not give Neil Little any credit for all the times that the Flyers recalled him only to be the backup sieve. The advantages of having an AHL team in the same town.
1. Adam Oates
2. Daren Puppa
3. Joé Juneau
4. Mike McPhee
5. Brian Pothier
6. Brandon Pirri
7. John Carter
8. Ken Hammond
9. Kraig Nienhuis
10.. Graeme Towhshend
Half that team was on the ice at the same time. RPI '85 was something to see.
Wasn't Barrasso RPI, or have I gone insane?
Was Townshend the guy who Adessa (the coach is fat!!!) made his you can't do that clap clap, clap clap clap about?
Best game I ever saw at Lynah was 1985-RPI. Oates versus Nieuwy. RPI scores twice late to survive. Second best game was Schaf breaks stick over head, we immediately fall behind 4-0, final score C-6, Sucks-5
Quote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 03:00:26 PMOates, Puppa, Carter, Hammond, Nienhuis, Mike Dark, Tim Friday, George Servinis, Mark Jooris
By far the best college hockey team (https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/1758/rpi-rensselaer-polytech.-inst./stats/1984-1985) in my viewing lifetime (81 to present).
1. RPI '85
---- huge gap ----
2. Harvard '89
3. Maine '93
4. Cornell '20
BTW, I have no memory of Nienhuis. The others all strike fear into my heart.
Quote from: Trotsky on April 03, 2026, 02:33:23 PMQuote from: tretiak on April 03, 2026, 10:12:45 AMMoulson had 369 points. He's the clear #3 for now.
How many goals did Dryden score?
How many goals did he stop?
According to NHL.com he made 11,083 saves.
Hoyt Stanley is wearing #5 for Belleville Senators tonight -
I was able to find the link for the radio broadcast on the AHL scores link for the game
Quote from: Trotsky on April 03, 2026, 05:03:44 PMQuote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 03:00:26 PMOates, Puppa, Carter, Hammond, Nienhuis, Mike Dark, Tim Friday, George Servinis, Mark Jooris
By far the best college hockey team (https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/1758/rpi-rensselaer-polytech.-inst./stats/1984-1985) in my viewing lifetime (81 to present).
1. RPI '85
---- huge gap ----
2. Harvard '89
3. Maine '93
4. Cornell '20
BTW, I have no memory of Nienhuis. The others all strike fear into my heart.
Quote from: Trotsky on April 03, 2026, 05:03:44 PMQuote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 03:00:26 PMOates, Puppa, Carter, Hammond, Nienhuis, Mike Dark, Tim Friday, George Servinis, Mark Jooris
By far the best college hockey team (https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/1758/rpi-rensselaer-polytech.-inst./stats/1984-1985) in my viewing lifetime (81 to present).
1. RPI '85
---- huge gap ----
2. Harvard '89
3. Maine '93
4. Cornell '20
BTW, I have no memory of Nienhuis. The others all strike fear into my heart.
Isn't mid-90s UVM in the conversation? They had JC Ruid after all.
Quote from: Trotsky on April 03, 2026, 02:36:08 PMQuote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 02:27:39 PMSorry that I originally posted the following on the wrong thread.
I just felt like doing this for RPI.
It is obvious to me that only half of this list is of comparible NHL achievement to all of Cornell's. This makes me even happier that the currently known recruit list for 2026 is IMHO significantly better than Cornell's. (I add that neither Heisenberg's list nor CHN agrees with the 8 players Coach Lang hinted at recently. CHN includes these eight but also others who are unlikely to be arriving this year or in some cases ever. The coach said that he wants to add up to four more including from the evil portal.) BTW, I did not give Neil Little any credit for all the times that the Flyers recalled him only to be the backup sieve. The advantages of having an AHL team in the same town.
1. Adam Oates
2. Daren Puppa
3. Joé Juneau
4. Mike McPhee
5. Brian Pothier
6. Brandon Pirri
7. John Carter
8. Ken Hammond
9. Kraig Nienhuis
10.. Graeme Towhshend
Half that team was on the ice at the same time. RPI '85 was something to see.
Wasn't Barrasso RPI, or have I gone insane?
Was Townshend the guy who Adessa (the coach is fat!!!) made his you can't do that clap clap, clap clap clap about?
Fat! Bald! Fat! Bald!
That was fun.
Some of the guys apparently made the trip to see Stanley's debut!
(https://i.ibb.co/dsgQ61Zj/IMG-20260403-WA0018.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cKLNtMqk)
(https://i.ibb.co/rG0yKT8r/IMG-20260403-WA0019.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cc3TKMfn)
Pretty sure the guys in red from left to right are Walsh, Kraft, and O'Brien. Both the guys in white look like Catalano lol
they probably went to yell at him for abandoning them
Quote from: ugarte on April 04, 2026, 12:00:00 AMthey probably went to yell at him for abandoning them
okay bearlover 😂
Quote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 02:27:39 PMSorry that I originally posted the following on the wrong thread.
I just felt like doing this for RPI.
It is obvious to me that only half of this list is of comparible NHL achievement to all of Cornell's. This makes me even happier that the currently known recruit list for 2026 is IMHO significantly better than Cornell's. (I add that neither Heisenberg's list nor CHN agrees with the 8 players Coach Lang hinted at recently. CHN includes these eight but also others who are unlikely to be arriving this year or in some cases ever. The coach said that he wants to add up to four more including from the evil portal.) BTW, I did not give Neil Little any credit for all the times that the Flyers recalled him only to be the backup sieve. The advantages of having an AHL team in the same town.
1. Adam Oates
2. Daren Puppa
3. Joé Juneau
4. Mike McPhee
5. Brian Pothier
6. Brandon Pirri
7. John Carter
8. Ken Hammond
9. Kraig Nienhuis
10.. Graeme Townshend
I must stop bragging about RPI on this forum, as it often comes back to haunt me. The RPI 2026 forward recruit with the best scoring stats in the past season, Josh Evaschesen, is considering returning to the WHL. He was 67-33-40-73-35 in the regular season.
https://x.com/MarTheReporter/status/2040220126252020019
Quote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 03:09:22 PMAny coach who could get AIC to win anything is talented. He might get attracted elsewhere if RPI makes the NCAA tourney in the next couple of years. I will be happy next year if RPI makes Lake Placid for the first time ever.
I couldn't tell if this was a joke I missed or an exaggeration - but RPI won the 1995 ECAC Tournament in Lake Placid and made it a bunch of other times. Unless you mean since the tournament returned to LP.
Quote from: adamw on April 04, 2026, 06:21:56 AMQuote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 03:09:22 PMAny coach who could get AIC to win anything is talented. He might get attracted elsewhere if RPI makes the NCAA tourney in the next couple of years. I will be happy next year if RPI makes Lake Placid for the first time ever.
I couldn't tell if this was a joke I missed or an exaggeration - but RPI won the 1995 ECAC Tournament in Lake Placid and made it a bunch of other times. Unless you mean since the tournament returned to LP.
Yes, that is what I meant. Sorry.
Quote from: stereax on April 03, 2026, 10:57:15 PMSome of the guys apparently made the trip to see Stanley's debut!
(https://i.ibb.co/dsgQ61Zj/IMG-20260403-WA0018.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cKLNtMqk)
(https://i.ibb.co/rG0yKT8r/IMG-20260403-WA0019.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cc3TKMfn)
Pretty sure the guys in red from left to right are Walsh, Kraft, and O'Brien. Both the guys in white look like Catalano lol
FWIW I have it on good authority that the guy in white in the stands is posting on eLynah.
Quote from: stereax on April 03, 2026, 10:57:15 PMSome of the guys apparently made the trip to see Stanley's debut!
(https://i.ibb.co/dsgQ61Zj/IMG-20260403-WA0018.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cKLNtMqk)
(https://i.ibb.co/rG0yKT8r/IMG-20260403-WA0019.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cc3TKMfn)
Pretty sure the guys in red from left to right are Walsh, Kraft, and O'Brien. Both the guys in white look like Catalano lol
Catalano has a younger brother, maybe visiting to check out Cornell. Guy to our right of Catalano 2, looks like FFJOL.
McCrady looks like Cat, I think it's him but not 100 sure
No clue on the other one
Quote from: George64 on April 04, 2026, 01:40:09 PMQuote from: stereax on April 03, 2026, 10:57:15 PMSome of the guys apparently made the trip to see Stanley's debut!
(https://i.ibb.co/dsgQ61Zj/IMG-20260403-WA0018.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cKLNtMqk)
(https://i.ibb.co/rG0yKT8r/IMG-20260403-WA0019.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cc3TKMfn)
Pretty sure the guys in red from left to right are Walsh, Kraft, and O'Brien. Both the guys in white look like Catalano lol
Catalano has a younger brother, maybe visiting to check out Cornell. Guy to our right of Catalano 2, looks like FFJOL.
I would've said the guy to the right of Ca2lano was a Hutson brother before FFJOL 😂 I can't see that anywhere in his face, lol.
Quote from: fastforward on April 04, 2026, 05:27:38 PMMcCrady looks like Cat, I think it's him but not 100 sure
No clue on the other one
I mean one of them is probably Cat, the other - good shout, could be McCrady? But the rest of them are all upperclassmen - not that "going to your teammate's AHL debut" is an upperclassman-only thing but, y'know, in a car full of upperclassmen be the freshman ig. The one in the hoodie you could not pay me to guess who it is.
Quote from: Trotsky on April 03, 2026, 02:50:19 PMQuote from: ursusminor on April 03, 2026, 02:27:39 PMThis makes me even happier that the currently known recruit list for 2026 is IMHO significantly better than Cornell's.
We look forward to their transfers.
No, I am not that much of a jerk.
Gonna join in to say RPI doesn't have anyone worth poaching from last year's team LOL. Regardless, I've been told that our only departures this year aren't leaving because they want to...
Malinski the GOAT? (https://x.com/i/status/2041918939274604932)
Sam Malinski at 5v5 since the Olympic break:
•Up 21-8 in his minutes with 63% high danger chance share and 61.4% xG share via NST
•13 points (T-3rd with Bouchard among all defensemen)
•125 shot attempts (T-1st with Werenski among all defensemen)
Quote from: stereax on April 08, 2026, 12:54:59 PMMalinski the GOAT? (https://x.com/i/status/2041918939274604932)
Sam Malinski at 5v5 since the Olympic break:
•Up 21-8 in his minutes with 63% high danger chance share and 61.4% xG share via NST
•13 points (T-3rd with Bouchard among all defensemen)
•125 shot attempts (T-1st with Werenski among all defensemen)
So you're telling me perhaps the best Cornell NHL player in recent history stayed four years and signed his first pro deal a few months before his 25th birthday?
DeSantis signs with Greensboro Gargoyles of the ECHL
O'Leary recorded his third three point game of the season on Friday but Andreev earned second star of the game with two assists (he has five in two games) in Maine's win.
Quote from: fastforward on April 09, 2026, 01:45:08 PMDeSantis signs with Greensboro Gargoyles of the ECHL
He debuted Friday night in a loss to Suda and Worcester. #98 on your score sheet
On call with my friend who's trying to keep up with the 24-25 class. Today we learned that Kempf had surgery and was out for a LONG time, (https://x.com/ColoradoEagles/status/1991897841800007970) and is now being loaned down to the ECHL.
Travis Mitchell started for the Bridgeport Islanders against the LV Phantoms last night. He got a decent amount of ice time, but he was -3 on the night with 2 SOG.
Phantoms won, 7-3.
Malinski's 8th goal of the year (bringing him 1 point shy of 40 for the season): https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/48480718
Quote from: sah67 on April 14, 2026, 09:26:58 AMMalinski's 8th goal of the year (bringing him 1 point shy of 40 for the season): https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/48480718
I'm watching the replay of that game on NHL Network. It was a pretty goal.
With an assist last night, Malinski hits the 40 point mark for the season (8G, 32A). It's especially impressive given that he has gotten almost zero power-play time, except on the rare occasions when Makar and Toews are both out of the lineup.
Quote from: sah67 on April 15, 2026, 12:10:05 PMWith an assist last night, Malinski hits the 40 point mark for the season (8G, 32A). It's especially impressive given that he has gotten almost zero power-play time, except on the rare occasions when Makar and Toews are both out of the lineup.
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Quote from: ugarte on April 15, 2026, 02:54:36 PMQuote from: sah67 on April 15, 2026, 12:10:05 PMWith an assist last night, Malinski hits the 40 point mark for the season (8G, 32A). It's especially impressive given that he has gotten almost zero power-play time, except on the rare occasions when Makar and Toews are both out of the lineup.
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upload directory is full so if stereax wants to work her magic...
"Printing 14 of these so I only have to do laundry once every 2 weeks"
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Sam is also Colorado's nominee for the King Clancy trophy:
https://x.com/Avalanche/status/2042647791055573461
Quote from: sah67 on April 15, 2026, 12:10:05 PMWith an assist last night, Malinski hits the 40 point mark for the season (8G, 32A). It's especially impressive given that he has gotten almost zero power-play time, except on the rare occasions when Makar and Toews are both out of the lineup.
Is Malinski the first Cornell defensemen to ever hit 40 points in the NHL?
Quote from: BearLover on April 16, 2026, 10:49:35 AMQuote from: sah67 on April 15, 2026, 12:10:05 PMWith an assist last night, Malinski hits the 40 point mark for the season (8G, 32A). It's especially impressive given that he has gotten almost zero power-play time, except on the rare occasions when Makar and Toews are both out of the lineup.
Is Malinski the first Cornell defensemen to ever hit 40 points in the NHL?
In a season? Yes. Douglas Murray topped out at 17 one season but totaled 64 for his career. No other Cornell d-man has ever even hit 40 points
total.
Quote from: Beeeej on April 16, 2026, 11:04:11 AMQuote from: BearLover on April 16, 2026, 10:49:35 AMQuote from: sah67 on April 15, 2026, 12:10:05 PMWith an assist last night, Malinski hits the 40 point mark for the season (8G, 32A). It's especially impressive given that he has gotten almost zero power-play time, except on the rare occasions when Makar and Toews are both out of the lineup.
Is Malinski the first Cornell defensemen to ever hit 40 points in the NHL?
In a season? Yes. Douglas Murray topped out at 17 one season but totaled 64 for his career. No other Cornell d-man has ever even hit 40 points total.
So the best NHL defenseman in Cornell hockey history stayed four years and signed his first pro deal right before his 25th birthday. Too bad Hoyt Stanley didn't get the message.
Doug "Crankshaft" Murray wasn't known as a scorer lol.
Boom (https://youtu.be/fRLA9iUXvmU?si=A3Y-fsSL5ErOGg18)
Quote from: The Rancor on April 16, 2026, 11:19:19 AMDoug "Crankshaft" Murray wasn't known as a scorer lol.
Boom (https://youtu.be/fRLA9iUXvmU?si=A3Y-fsSL5ErOGg18)
True, yet up until this month he was Cornell's all-time leading scoring d-man in the NHL.
A fond memory of the 2003 Frozen Four team is chatting with Murray about his "playing style" - one of his favorite things to do was finish a hit against an opposing forward by pinning him to the wall and laughing in his ear as loud as he could.
Quote from: BearLover on April 16, 2026, 11:08:48 AMQuote from: Beeeej on April 16, 2026, 11:04:11 AMQuote from: BearLover on April 16, 2026, 10:49:35 AMQuote from: sah67 on April 15, 2026, 12:10:05 PMWith an assist last night, Malinski hits the 40 point mark for the season (8G, 32A). It's especially impressive given that he has gotten almost zero power-play time, except on the rare occasions when Makar and Toews are both out of the lineup.
Is Malinski the first Cornell defensemen to ever hit 40 points in the NHL?
In a season? Yes. Douglas Murray topped out at 17 one season but totaled 64 for his career. No other Cornell d-man has ever even hit 40 points total.
So the best NHL defenseman in Cornell hockey history stayed four years and signed his first pro deal right before his 25th birthday. Too bad Hoyt Stanley didn't get the message.
Yeah, because one data point is perfectly correlated to reality.
I missed it but Sullivan Mack is back in the AHL with Hartford to finish out their season. In three games since his recall he's scoreless.
Quote from: VIEWfromK on April 17, 2026, 02:16:06 PMI missed it but Sullivan Mack is back in the AHL with Hartford to finish out their season. In three games since his recall he's scoreless.
The Rangers called up half the Hartford roster, so there was some room there. Good for Sully. Had an excellent year in the ECHL.
Filipovic on Malinski:
Sam Malinski's Development This Season
The importance of Sam Malinski's evolution throughout the season from luxury piece on the 3rd pair to essential top-four contributor can't be overstated. It's probably one of the most difficult jumps in the game for a young player to make in this league. There's a lot of defenders that can churn our sparkling underlying numbers in carefully managed usage. The list of defenders who can translate that success when that role changes is significantly shorter.
Malinski made that jump rather emphatically this year. He was being utilized as their 6th defenseman in the team's first 39 games leading up to the New Year, averaging just under 15 5v5 minutes per game in that time. In the next 43 games they played from January 1st on, that number got scaled up to 17:09 per game, which only trailed Cale Makar by 18 seconds per game for the team lead.
Armed with the benefit of fun chess pieces to play with, a comfortable cushion in the standings, and time to spare before the postseason in which they could gain potentially useful information to circle back to later, we saw Jared Bednar mix and match with different combinations atop the defensive depth chart along the way. When Devon Toews missed a month's worth of games, Malinski took his spot on the top pair next to Makar. After Brett Kulak arrived via trade, Malinski played with him right out of the gate.
Even before Makar's recent absence due to injury, there was a good chunk of action where they took a long look at Malinski with Toews, and Makar with Brett Kulak instead. Those minutes went very, very well for Malinski, Toews, and the Avalanche. In the 244:28 they've played together at 5v5, the team posted the following shares via Natural Stat Trick:
69.2% of the goals (nice)
66.5% of the expected goals
67.7% of the high danger chances
63.8% of the shots
Malinski's 5v5 numbers across the board for the season are outlandishly good. He finished the year with 38 5v5 points, which is tied for the 6th highest total at the position with Jakob Chychrun. That's just 1 point behind Makar, in roughly the same number of minutes played. The Avalanche won his minutes by a 73-31 goal margin. That's a 70.3% goal share, which was just the 8th time since 2007 that a skater topped the 70% threshold while playing at least 1000 5v5 minutes (out of 3,928 qualified skaters in that time).
Another one of those 8 was Nathan MacKinnon at 70.6% this season. Both Malinski and MacKinnon were dominant in their minutes apart, but the times they shared the ice together were particularly special. They outscored opponents 33-10 in those shifts, creating north of 4.8 goals per hour of play. Having Malinski out there with MacKinnon supercharged Colorado's offense, serving as a force multiplier for their attack. ...
The rest of it is paywalled. (https://www.patreon.com/posts/155852981?utm_campaign=postshare_creator)
Malinski vs Malott in game 1 of the Colorado-LA series. Sam had a strong first period, leading the Avs with 3 of their 9 SOG.
In other Malott news... his brother Mike won his UFC main event fight last night: https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/mike-malott-first-ufc-main-180000852.html
Listening in. I wonder why they don't add the NCAA rule that a first failed challenge charges your timeout.
PWHL regular season ends this weekend.
Jill Saulnier and Boston have qualified.
Jenner (fourth in the league with 25 pts) and Guilday will play Saturday needing one point for Ottawa to get last spot.
I believe all other Cornell alumae are on teams that won't qualify.
Jenner had the gwg in ot last night: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXeS2EgjvLw/?igsh=MWFsMGZ0anFxN3p5Zw==
Guilday assisted on the tying goal: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXdKZF7jdf4/?img_index=1&igsh=MWt6aHpiMmN4dHE0Nw==
Top seed (MTL or BOS) gets to choose its first round opponent between the third and fourth qualifying teams (2 time defending champion Minnesota and Toronto or Ottawa).
Some Cornell on Cornell violence (or crimebaggery if you prefer) last night as Malott checked Malinski hard into the boards, leaving Sam with a cut above his eye that required stitches.
"Quit movin' you're makin' me miss!"
The Malinski-led Avs ( ;) ) are about 2 minutes away from sweeping the Kings. Up 5-1. Malinski had an assist tonight.
Quote from: stereax on April 26, 2026, 07:27:50 PMThe Malinski-led Avs ( ;) ) are about 2 minutes away from sweeping the Kings. Up 5-1. Malinski had an assist tonight.
On a very nice break-out pass.
CBS did a piece about the PWHL earlier this month that just scratches the surface, but Micah Zandee-Hart was interviewed.
https://youtu.be/tXWbYSKo1pw?si=ChTIy1_q4SNMyx3v
Montreal is top seed in PWHL playoffs. They chose to play 3 seed Minnesota in the semis. The other best of five semi is (4) Ottawa and (2) Boston.
OTT/BOS features three Cornellians (and both Team USA goalies) and kicks off Thursday night and Saturday night in Lowell. Both games on NESN and YouTube in the states.
Quote from: Chris '03 on April 27, 2026, 04:24:07 PMMontreal is top seed in PWHL playoffs. They chose to play 3 seed Minnesota in the semis. The other best of five semi is (4) Ottawa and (2) Boston.
OTT/BOS features three Cornellians (and both Team USA goalies) and kicks off Thursday night and Saturday night in Lowell. Both games on NESN and YouTube in the states.
Montreal choosing to play Minnesota over Ottawa? Is there something I'm missing about why they'd want to play MIN and not OTT? I thought OTT just snuck in...
Quote from: stereax on April 27, 2026, 04:42:19 PMQuote from: Chris '03 on April 27, 2026, 04:24:07 PMMontreal is top seed in PWHL playoffs. They chose to play 3 seed Minnesota in the semis. The other best of five semi is (4) Ottawa and (2) Boston.
OTT/BOS features three Cornellians (and both Team USA goalies) and kicks off Thursday night and Saturday night in Lowell. Both games on NESN and YouTube in the states.
Montreal choosing to play Minnesota over Ottawa? Is there something I'm missing about why they'd want to play MIN and not OTT? I thought OTT just snuck in...
Stat I just read: Every PWHL playoff series (there have been six) has been won by the team without home-ice advantage.
Quote from: stereax on April 27, 2026, 04:42:19 PMQuote from: Chris '03 on April 27, 2026, 04:24:07 PMMontreal is top seed in PWHL playoffs. They chose to play 3 seed Minnesota in the semis. The other best of five semi is (4) Ottawa and (2) Boston.
OTT/BOS features three Cornellians (and both Team USA goalies) and kicks off Thursday night and Saturday night in Lowell. Both games on NESN and YouTube in the states.
Montreal choosing to play Minnesota over Ottawa? Is there something I'm missing about why they'd want to play MIN and not OTT? I thought OTT just snuck in...
Montreal had a slightly better season record against Minnesota than Ottawa. And (possibly more importantly) last year, Montreal picked Ottawa and lost. The "you chose us" chants in Ottawa as they closed out the series were fun.
Ottawa is also playing very well down the stretch. They just snuck in, in part because of a bizarre number of OT wins. They went 8-1 in ot/so and something like 9-12 on regulation.
Way back, when the NHL had six teams, the playoffs opened with two series: #1 vs. #3 and #2 vs. #4. As the season drew to a close, the #3 and #4 teams could jockey for fourth place and the more desirable first-round opponent, while making sure they didn't slip down to 5th place and miss the playoffs. Very strange way of doing things.
Quote from: Al DeFlorio on April 28, 2026, 07:12:05 AMWay back, when the NHL had six teams, the playoffs opened with two series: #1 vs. #3 and #2 vs. #4. As the season drew to a close, the #3 and #4 teams could jockey for fourth place and the more desirable first-round opponent, while making sure they didn't slip down to 5th place and miss the playoffs. Very strange way of doing things.
Yeah, that setup made about as much sense as the NHL's current ridiculous playoff format
Nothing contraction won't cure.
Or a new league commissioner
Quote from: JohnF81 on April 29, 2026, 09:36:48 AMOr a new league commissioner
Hey, Gary's a Cornell alum!
Quote from: stereax on April 29, 2026, 10:18:51 AMQuote from: JohnF81 on April 29, 2026, 09:36:48 AMOr a new league commissioner
Hey, Gary's a Cornell alum!
So is the guy who unleashed one of the first big computer viruses, and I don't have to like him.
Didn't we have an "embarrassing alumni" thread in JSID?
Quote from: JohnF81 on April 29, 2026, 09:36:48 AMOr a new league commissioner
I met Bettman when I was, like, 5. He was nice. His wife and my mother were sort of friends.
Which means nothing, but it does make all the anti-Bettman vitriol a little funny to me. Not saying it isn't deserved.
Jessica Campbell, as of right now, is not going to be assistant coaching the Kraken next year. (https://x.com/emilymkaplan/status/2049899538010271848?s=46)
Sounds like she has interest across the league, and that the Kraken would want to bring her back if none of that pans out - so positive all around.
Quote from: stereax on April 30, 2026, 01:41:25 PMJessica Campbell, as of right now, is not going to be assistant coaching the Kraken next year. (https://x.com/emilymkaplan/status/2049899538010271848?s=46)
Sounds like she has interest across the league, and that the Kraken would want to bring her back if none of that pans out - so positive all around.
The Twitter comments were a ride. 🤢
But speaking of Campbell, this was a good listen a few months ago:
https://pca.st/episode/291b4c25-381e-4512-822b-827834b0cf82
Quote from: Chris '03 on April 30, 2026, 02:34:01 PMThe Twitter comments were a ride. 🤢
I don't twat so I couldn't read them, but I am assuming unrelenting misogyny and idiocy from the usual suspects?
Quote from: Trotsky on May 01, 2026, 02:57:21 PMQuote from: Chris '03 on April 30, 2026, 02:34:01 PMThe Twitter comments were a ride. 🤢
I don't twat so I couldn't read them, but I am assuming unrelenting misogyny and idiocy from the usual suspects?
Close enough.
Sorry I am so late. Are there any Cornell alumni still alive for the Cup?
Quote from: Trotsky on May 03, 2026, 08:34:44 PMSorry I am so late. Are there any Cornell alumni still alive for the Cup?
Malinski and the Avs as far as players are concerned. No idea about staff or management
AND MALINSKI JUST GOT THE FIRST GOAL OF THE GAME!!!
Quote from: stereax on May 03, 2026, 09:32:50 PMAND MALINSKI JUST GOT THE FIRST GOAL OF THE GAME!!!
Total snipe: https://www.nhl.com/video/min-col-malinski-scores-goal-against-jesper-wallstedt-6394522342112
Malinski was 1-1-2 +3 as Colorado won 9-6.
Quote from: Trotsky on May 04, 2026, 12:52:43 AMMalinski was 1-1-2 +3 as Colorado won 9-6.
Insane game to watch.
Commentator said earlier today that Malinski is a great find for the Avs. Undrafted out of Lakeville MN and Cornell, but plays like a first round pick
Quote from: nshapiro on May 05, 2026, 10:52:05 PMCommentator said earlier today that Malinski is a great find for the Avs. Undrafted out of Lakeville MN and Cornell, but plays like a first round pick
Not just any commentator either: it was Erik Johnson, former #1 overall pick and Sam's teammate (and fellow Minnesotan and d-man) on Colorado last season.
Quote from: sah67 on May 06, 2026, 07:09:31 AMQuote from: nshapiro on May 05, 2026, 10:52:05 PMCommentator said earlier today that Malinski is a great find for the Avs. Undrafted out of Lakeville MN and Cornell, but plays like a first round pick
Not just any commentator either: it was Erik Johnson, former #1 overall pick and Sam's teammate (and fellow Minnesotan and d-man) on Colorado last season.
I heard that too. High praise indeed.
Quote from: Dafatone on April 29, 2026, 01:03:43 PMQuote from: JohnF81 on April 29, 2026, 09:36:48 AMOr a new league commissioner
I met Bettman when I was, like, 5. He was nice. His wife and my mother were sort of friends.
Which means nothing, but it does make all the anti-Bettman vitriol a little funny to me. Not saying it isn't deserved.
I met him at Kettle of Fish in NYC, back when that was one of the few ways to see Cornell in the NCAAs. He hung out inconspicuously, watching most of the game.
Quote from: scoop85 on May 06, 2026, 09:59:54 AMQuote from: sah67 on May 06, 2026, 07:09:31 AMQuote from: nshapiro on May 05, 2026, 10:52:05 PMCommentator said earlier today that Malinski is a great find for the Avs. Undrafted out of Lakeville MN and Cornell, but plays like a first round pick
Not just any commentator either: it was Erik Johnson, former #1 overall pick and Sam's teammate (and fellow Minnesotan and d-man) on Colorado last season.
I heard that too. High praise indeed.
McNally even tweeted about it haha. I heard it and got stars in my eyes.
Quote from: stereax on May 06, 2026, 11:50:05 AMQuote from: scoop85 on May 06, 2026, 09:59:54 AMQuote from: sah67 on May 06, 2026, 07:09:31 AMQuote from: nshapiro on May 05, 2026, 10:52:05 PMCommentator said earlier today that Malinski is a great find for the Avs. Undrafted out of Lakeville MN and Cornell, but plays like a first round pick
What the announcers didn't do was give Sam any of the credit for the goal at the beginning of the second period. His D helped cause the turnover.
Not just any commentator either: it was Erik Johnson, former #1 overall pick and Sam's teammate (and fellow Minnesotan and d-man) on Colorado last season.
I heard that too. High praise indeed.
McNally even tweeted about it haha. I heard it and got stars in my eyes.
As per the Cornell twitter, Malinski had the highest +/- of any dman in the regular season in the NHL. (https://x.com/i/status/2052407976489877928)
Which means it's an incredibly important stat for assessing player value. :)
Quote from: stereax on May 07, 2026, 11:49:47 AMAs per the Cornell twitter, Malinski had the highest +/- of any dman in the regular season in the NHL. (https://x.com/i/status/2052407976489877928)
He always says "I couldn't have done it if I hadn't stayed at Cornell for four years and anyone who leaves early is making a huge mistake AND hurting the program in a way you, as a fan, should resent."
Quote from: ugarte on May 07, 2026, 12:39:21 PMQuote from: stereax on May 07, 2026, 11:49:47 AMAs per the Cornell twitter, Malinski had the highest +/- of any dman in the regular season in the NHL. (https://x.com/i/status/2052407976489877928)
He always says "I couldn't have done it if I hadn't stayed at Cornell for four years and anyone who leaves early is making a huge mistake AND hurting the program in a way you, as a fan, should resent."
And he's completely right about that
Malinski is a +8 in 6 playoff games.
Rory Guilday's Ottawa Charge have made the Walter Cup Finals! (https://ottawacitizen.com/sports/double-overtime-win-ottawa-charge)
Will face either the Victoire or the Frost.
Quote from: stereax on May 10, 2026, 07:51:43 PMRory Guilday's Ottawa Charge have made the Walter Cup Finals! (https://ottawacitizen.com/sports/double-overtime-win-ottawa-charge)
Will face either the Victoire or the Frost.
Game featured some red on red crimebaggery when Jill Saulnier had a partial breakaway in overtime only to be hauled down by her HOF classmate Brianne Jenner. Penalty was killed by Guilday on the PK.
Quote from: Chris '03 on May 10, 2026, 09:43:50 PMQuote from: stereax on May 10, 2026, 07:51:43 PMRory Guilday's Ottawa Charge have made the Walter Cup Finals! (https://ottawacitizen.com/sports/double-overtime-win-ottawa-charge)
Will face either the Victoire or the Frost.
Game featured some red on red crimbebaggery when Jill Saulnier had a partial breakaway in overtime only to be hauled down by her HOF classmate Brianne Jenner. Penalty was killed by Guilday on the PK.
The link from Stereax features an "agony of defeat" shot of Saulnier next to the 2OT goal scorer.
Malinski out of game 4 with an "upper body injury."
Nice new gig....
https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2026/05/devils-hire-braden-birch-as-assistant-general-manager.html#ref=home
Brianne Jenner and Rory Guilday advanced to the PWHL championship series (Walter Cup) with Ottawa Charge after downing Jill Saulnier and the Boston Fleet in front of a healthy 13,000+ fans in 2OT in Ottawa.
Quote from: imafrshmn on May 12, 2026, 01:32:26 PMBrianne Jenner and Rory Guilday advanced to the PWHL championship series (Walter Cup) with Ottawa Charge after downing Jill Saulnier and the Boston Fleet in front of a healthy 13,000+ fans in 2OT in Ottawa.
Montreal won last night and will host games one and two Thursday and Saturday.
PWHL draft list is also out and includes a couple familiar names: https://www.thepwhl.com/en/news/2026/may/12/2026-pwhl-draft-eligibility-list-features-record-number-of-player-declarations
League is expected to go from 8 to 12 teams next year. Detroit is official. Vegas and Hamilton strongly rumored to be announced shortly. Vegas probably today.
Quote from: Chris '03 on May 13, 2026, 07:58:15 AMQuote from: imafrshmn on May 12, 2026, 01:32:26 PMBrianne Jenner and Rory Guilday advanced to the PWHL championship series (Walter Cup) with Ottawa Charge after downing Jill Saulnier and the Boston Fleet in front of a healthy 13,000+ fans in 2OT in Ottawa.
Montreal won last night and will host games one and two Thursday and Saturday.
PWHL draft list is also out and includes a couple familiar names: https://www.thepwhl.com/en/news/2026/may/12/2026-pwhl-draft-eligibility-list-features-record-number-of-player-declarations
League is expected to go from 8 to 12 teams next year. Detroit is official. Vegas and Hamilton strongly rumored to be announced shortly. Vegas probably today.
Just did a quick scan:
Avi Adam
Georgia Schiff
Mckenna Van Gelder
Alexa Davis (played at St. Lawrence last season)
Grace Dwyer
Laura Fortino (played in Italy the past couple seasons)
Ashley Messier (played at Minnesota-Duluth last season)
Alyssa Regalado
EDIT: Vegas and Hamilton both announced today. Fortino is from Hamilton, so she may be hoping she winds up there.
Malinski still out
Quote from: stereax on May 13, 2026, 08:12:03 PMMalinski still out
Despite not playing, Malinski and the Avs advance to the WCF after coming back from an 0-3 deficit to win 4-3 in OT.
Rough night for Ottawa alumnae. Jenner missed an empty net with about ninety seconds to go. Montreal tied it with two seconds left. And won it in ot after a Guilday turnover.
Quote from: stereax on May 13, 2026, 11:10:34 PMQuote from: stereax on May 13, 2026, 08:12:03 PMMalinski still out
Despite not playing, Malinski and the Avs advance to the WCF after coming back from an 0-3 deficit to win 4-3 in OT.
They'll be facing the Golden Knights!
Not quite "alumni" or "pros", but it's on the ECAC's Instagram, so it's gotta be correct, right?
Great Britain in the IIHF World Championships. (https://www.instagram.com/p/DYVOr-0iV0h/?img_index=4)
McNally's final article for the Sun. (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/05/mcnally-give-my-regards)
:(
Quote from: stereax on May 15, 2026, 01:25:49 PMMcNally's final article for the Sun. (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/05/mcnally-give-my-regards)
:(
Terrific, as expected.
Quote from: stereax on May 15, 2026, 01:25:49 PMMcNally's final article for the Sun. (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/05/mcnally-give-my-regards)
:(
As expected, a solid piece and a tearjerker to boot!
Quote from: fastforward on May 16, 2026, 06:21:21 PMQuote from: stereax on May 15, 2026, 01:25:49 PMMcNally's final article for the Sun. (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/05/mcnally-give-my-regards)
:(
As expected, a solid piece and a tearjerker to boot!
When, not if, Jane goes to work somewhere as a paid writer on hockey, I vote that we note her articles in future "Alumni in the pros" threads. She'll be an alumni, and a professional writer, and a damn good one.
Quote from: stereax on May 15, 2026, 01:25:49 PMMcNally's final article for the Sun. (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/05/mcnally-give-my-regards)
:(
It's an awful piece, but she is entitled to one stinker.
The best thing about McNally is she has never written a piece like this before and never will again. While mawkish blowhards and talentless typists like Dan Shaughnessy and Mitch Albom reel them out weekly over 40-year careers, McNally never takes the easy way or the cheap derpy angle when she writes a real column. She's a great analyst and a compelling writer, and she is worth reading.
Hopefully she'll keep doing that, and there will be a market for it. 1% of sportswriting is worth more than monitor toilet paper, and her work is in that category over half the time. I cannot think of another sportswriter, ever, who fits this description.
She's allowed her victory lap; it probably felt icky writing it but the pigs expect, and monetize, their slop. Now, go out into the world and make sports journalism more than just the lazy, cliche mixture of sports marketing and overheated soap opera it has been for a century.
You all realize Jane writes for the school paper, right? She's a college student. Pretty sure she doesn't want nor need this level of praise or criticism.
Quote from: BearLover on May 17, 2026, 01:05:44 AMYou all realize Jane writes for the school paper, right? She's a college student. Pretty sure she doesn't want nor need this level of praise or criticism.
Counterpoint: have you read any of the slop the Devils' "beat reporters" put out? Novozinsky, Nichols, and Amoia the chief offenders.
Compared to that...
Quote from: Trotsky on May 17, 2026, 12:13:43 AMQuote from: stereax on May 15, 2026, 01:25:49 PMMcNally's final article for the Sun. (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/05/mcnally-give-my-regards)
:(
It's an awful piece, but she is entitled to one stinker.
The best thing about McNally is she has never written a piece like this before and never will again. While mawkish blowhards and talentless typists like Dan Shaughnessy and Mitch Albom reel them out weekly over 40-year careers, McNally never takes the easy way or the cheap derpy angle when she writes a real column. She's a great analyst and a compelling writer, and she is worth reading.
Hopefully she'll keep doing that, and there will be a market for it. 1% of sportswriting is worth more than monitor toilet paper, and her work is in that category over half the time. I cannot think of another sportswriter, ever, who fits this description.
She's allowed her victory lap; it probably felt icky writing it but the pigs expect, and monetize, their slop. Now, go out into the world and make sports journalism more than just the lazy, cliche mixture of sports marketing and overheated soap opera it has been for a century.
Sorry, hard disagree from me.
Quote from: Trotsky on May 17, 2026, 12:13:43 AMQuote from: stereax on May 15, 2026, 01:25:49 PMMcNally's final article for the Sun. (https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/05/mcnally-give-my-regards)
:(
It's an awful piece, but she is entitled to one stinker.
The best thing about McNally is she has never written a piece like this before and never will again. While mawkish blowhards and talentless typists like Dan Shaughnessy and Mitch Albom reel them out weekly over 40-year careers, McNally never takes the easy way or the cheap derpy angle when she writes a real column. She's a great analyst and a compelling writer, and she is worth reading.
Hopefully she'll keep doing that, and there will be a market for it. 1% of sportswriting is worth more than monitor toilet paper, and her work is in that category over half the time. I cannot think of another sportswriter, ever, who fits this description.
She's allowed her victory lap; it probably felt icky writing it but the pigs expect, and monetize, their slop. Now, go out into the world and make sports journalism more than just the lazy, cliche mixture of sports marketing and overheated soap opera it has been for a century.
never change bro
This is beside the point, but the traditional "farewell column" at many college papers is a no-win situation. Either they come across as navel-gazing or you don't do one and everyone who expected to be thanked feels slighted.
Quote from: BearLover on May 17, 2026, 01:05:44 AMYou all realize Jane writes for the school paper, right? She's a college student. Pretty sure she doesn't want nor need this level of praise or criticism.
I have to ask —- do you feel like this doesn't apply to students who play for the college varsity hockey team?
Forgive a moment of personal indulgence and parental pride. My son, not a Cornell grad and not a sports guy, is now a working journalist. When he was editor in chief at his school paper, as he approached graduation he had a personal goal of publishing a piece in every section of the paper, an apparently rare accomplishment. His project was to figure out the last article. What could he possibly write for sports? He wrote a column entitled "Learning to Love Hockey", which was mostly about our relationship. I'm welling up as I write this. So, I'm happy to allow Jane a little personal nostalgia. Actually, I loved it.
Quote from: Weder on May 17, 2026, 12:09:55 PMThis is beside the point, but the traditional "farewell column" at many college papers is a no-win situation. Either they come across as navel-gazing or you don't do one and everyone who expected to be thanked feels slighted.
This one didn't even seem that navel-gaze-y to me. Can't win.
Quote from: pfibiger on May 17, 2026, 12:13:54 PMQuote from: BearLover on May 17, 2026, 01:05:44 AMYou all realize Jane writes for the school paper, right? She's a college student. Pretty sure she doesn't want nor need this level of praise or criticism.
I have to ask —- do you feel like this doesn't apply to students who play for the college varsity hockey team?
BL usually blames the coaches tbh!
Quote from: stereax on May 17, 2026, 01:26:34 PMQuote from: Weder on May 17, 2026, 12:09:55 PMThis is beside the point, but the traditional "farewell column" at many college papers is a no-win situation. Either they come across as navel-gazing or you don't do one and everyone who expected to be thanked feels slighted.
This one didn't even seem that navel-gaze-y to me. Can't win.
Oh, definitely. This is on the very high end of the range for this type of column. Way better than whatever I churned out when I wrote for the Sun.
Quote from: pfibiger on May 17, 2026, 12:13:54 PMQuote from: BearLover on May 17, 2026, 01:05:44 AMYou all realize Jane writes for the school paper, right? She's a college student. Pretty sure she doesn't want nor need this level of praise or criticism.
I have to ask —- do you feel like this doesn't apply to students who play for the college varsity hockey team?
Yes, but not the coaches. Can't skate but anyone can coach.
Quote from: Weder on May 17, 2026, 04:37:20 PMQuote from: stereax on May 17, 2026, 01:26:34 PMQuote from: Weder on May 17, 2026, 12:09:55 PMThis is beside the point, but the traditional "farewell column" at many college papers is a no-win situation. Either they come across as navel-gazing or you don't do one and everyone who expected to be thanked feels slighted.
This one didn't even seem that navel-gaze-y to me. Can't win.
Oh, definitely. This is on the very high end of the range for this type of column. Way better than whatever I churned out when I wrote for the Sun.
My son did a hockey column and was in the Pep Band at one Whale of a school. I loved his columns but they didn't approach Jane's. Her last column was sweet - our resident dissident is entitled to take pot shots if he wants. I'm entitled to tear up and wish I was 22 again for half a minute or so.
Quote from: pfibiger on May 17, 2026, 12:13:54 PMQuote from: BearLover on May 17, 2026, 01:05:44 AMYou all realize Jane writes for the school paper, right? She's a college student. Pretty sure she doesn't want nor need this level of praise or criticism.
I have to ask —- do you feel like this doesn't apply to students who play for the college varsity hockey team?
Well, one important distinction is that I think Jane reads this forum. But yes, I try to not go hard on Cornell athletes on this forum in case it gets back to them. I also try to be mindful that these are just kids.
In only somewhat related news, I've got FloHockey 24 on while I'm writing my fuckass final papers. It's not going well. Anyway, they're playing the same 3 or 4 games over and over again - a Maine Mariners one, the SPHL final with the Peoria Rivermen, the Charlotte Checkers' 8-spot versus Springfield, then there's a program where they talk about the '26 NHL draft and do a terrible mock of it... And there's also a fight compilation.
Guess whose name I alerted to, then rolled back to take a good look at my TV screen where he was busy jumping on someone twice his size in a scrum.
There's only one answer here.
Quote from: stereax on May 18, 2026, 06:51:02 AMIn only somewhat related news, I've got FloHockey 24 on while I'm writing my fuckass final papers. It's not going well. Anyway, they're playing the same 3 or 4 games over and over again - a Maine Mariners one, the SPHL final with the Peoria Rivermen, the Charlotte Checkers' 8-spot versus Springfield, then there's a program where they talk about the '26 NHL draft and do a terrible mock of it... And there's also a fight compilation.
Guess whose name I alerted to, then rolled back to take a good look at my TV screen where he was busy jumping on someone twice his size in a scrum.
There's only one answer here.
Is he good at hockey?
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on May 18, 2026, 09:31:05 AMQuote from: stereax on May 18, 2026, 06:51:02 AMIn only somewhat related news, I've got FloHockey 24 on while I'm writing my fuckass final papers. It's not going well. Anyway, they're playing the same 3 or 4 games over and over again - a Maine Mariners one, the SPHL final with the Peoria Rivermen, the Charlotte Checkers' 8-spot versus Springfield, then there's a program where they talk about the '26 NHL draft and do a terrible mock of it... And there's also a fight compilation.
Guess whose name I alerted to, then rolled back to take a good look at my TV screen where he was busy jumping on someone twice his size in a scrum.
There's only one answer here.
Is he good at hockey?
Mmm, he's pretty solid at hockey, but he's no Caton Ryan.
Hint: ECHL game.
According to reports, Malinski participated in "full practice" with the Avs this week, so hopefully he'll be good to go for game 1 of the WCF on Wednesday!
Quote from: stereax on May 18, 2026, 09:33:15 AMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on May 18, 2026, 09:31:05 AMQuote from: stereax on May 18, 2026, 06:51:02 AMIn only somewhat related news, I've got FloHockey 24 on while I'm writing my fuckass final papers. It's not going well. Anyway, they're playing the same 3 or 4 games over and over again - a Maine Mariners one, the SPHL final with the Peoria Rivermen, the Charlotte Checkers' 8-spot versus Springfield, then there's a program where they talk about the '26 NHL draft and do a terrible mock of it... And there's also a fight compilation.
Guess whose name I alerted to, then rolled back to take a good look at my TV screen where he was busy jumping on someone twice his size in a scrum.
There's only one answer here.
Is he good at hockey?
Mmm, he's pretty solid at hockey, but he's no Caton Ryan.
Hint: ECHL game.
FFJOB?
Quote from: TimV on May 18, 2026, 01:33:20 PMQuote from: stereax on May 18, 2026, 09:33:15 AMQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82 on May 18, 2026, 09:31:05 AMQuote from: stereax on May 18, 2026, 06:51:02 AMIn only somewhat related news, I've got FloHockey 24 on while I'm writing my fuckass final papers. It's not going well. Anyway, they're playing the same 3 or 4 games over and over again - a Maine Mariners one, the SPHL final with the Peoria Rivermen, the Charlotte Checkers' 8-spot versus Springfield, then there's a program where they talk about the '26 NHL draft and do a terrible mock of it... And there's also a fight compilation.
Guess whose name I alerted to, then rolled back to take a good look at my TV screen where he was busy jumping on someone twice his size in a scrum.
There's only one answer here.
Is he good at hockey?
Mmm, he's pretty solid at hockey, but he's no Caton Ryan.
Hint: ECHL game.
FFJOB?
JOL, but yes
(https://i.ibb.co/MxYXfvjx/IMG20260518064219.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wF9v7kbF)
(I missed the good part to get on camera haha)
Seems the Ottawa Charge have won game 3!
Quote from: stereax on May 18, 2026, 08:59:36 PMSeems the Ottawa Charge have won game 3!
Yes. Scored twice in last four minutes to stay alive. Long delay on gwg for a possible Jenner hand pass. Guilday had a nice play to help get the final clear with a few seconds left.
16,894 in attendance in Ottawa. Game four Wednesday.