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Re: Harvard 4, Cornell 3, Final - 13 years ago
ajh258 Andy Dodd I mean, it should be obvious if you take any time to listen to cowbell that it is a constant-tempo cheer and that if you don't hear the cowbell speed up, you probably shouldn't either - However section F would always speed up their clapping throughout the cheer last year. (One of my coworkers described it as "sever clock drift" - we're both engineers...) Not being ablby Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Cornell 3 Dartmouth 2 (ot) - 13 years ago
Crud. Of all the nights to forget my medicine, it sounds like last night was a good one. (I made it up to Ithaca, ate dinner, and realized I had to head straight back home because I forgot something. )by Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Harvard 4, Cornell 3, Final - 13 years ago
Hmm, yeah, you're right - it isn't as clear as I thought that I sit in M. Sorry about that! I think it would be possible for them to avoid the fish and not board-hug - the arms of those in the student section aren't THAT strong! But still, they board-hug which is somewhat undignified compared to just keeping about a half-rink distance (far enough from the students to avoid the majority of fiby Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Harvard 4, Cornell 3, Final - 13 years ago
redice Andy Dodd.....a barrage of fish demoralizes them..... No offense, Andy...But, anyone who could believe that has a misplaced sense of their own importance in the grand scheme of a college hockey game...Some of those Harvard players had smiles on their faces...That belies any indication of being demoralized... Andy Dodd.....usually the "extended attempt at awesomeness" is juby Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Harvard 4, Cornell 3, Final - 13 years ago
In terms of the fish - At the very beginning of the game, when Harvard is entering the ice and it is a long time before play starts, a barrage of fish demoralizes them and isn't going to impact the game significantly in terms of delay - there is plenty of time to clean the fish up before play starts. Have the refs ever called a penalty for initial fish throwing? It seems like the refs are prepaby Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Harvard 4, Cornell 3, Final - 13 years ago
That shocks me - I know after the penalty the ushers were lined up and ready to go for the next offense across the rink in the aisle between A and B, I'm surprised they didn't boot the guy. I'm pretty surprised that with fish being a lot harder to smuggle in that anyone would save them beyond the traditional beginning throw. How could you tell which item of FOD was the cause of the penalty?by Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Camera policy in Lynah? - 14 years ago
In that case, it's probably a combination of slight WB errors and slight underexposure (cameraperson might have used autoexposure, not manual tweaked so white was as bright as possible w/o getting blown out). I'd have to check a histogram of the image to see for sure. Underexposed red is probably going to look crimson-ish.by Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Camera policy in Lynah? - 14 years ago
Yup, exactly Bill. (by the way, I saw your pictures from Albany, they were excellent!) Fortunately at 1/250, while the color shifting with time starts being noticable, it's not horrible. (unlike those 1/500 bursts above). The question, of course, is how much worse it gets going from 1/250 to 1/500 in Lynah - Lynah's lighting may not shift as much as the lighting of the example given aboveby Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Camera policy in Lynah? - 14 years ago
- Saturday 3/13 game. Sharper shots in general, but I think I caught some better "moments" the night before. As you can see, the WB is starting to vary a little at 1/250. Worst is one of the pictures of the nearest leftmost corner of the rink, caught the light at a really reddish point in one picture.by Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Camera policy in Lynah? - 14 years ago
I always shoot RAW, but to at least get the viewfinder looking good, I set the camera WB. For those, I took a WB sample using ufraw's dropper tool off of the ice. Unfortunately I can only do single-pixel dropper or full-image automatic. I need to request "area" WB sampling as a feature or ufraw. For the second game, taking a camera WB sample off of rough ice at the beginning oby Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Camera policy in Lynah? - 14 years ago
I finally uploaded Friday's pictures - I didn't spend too much time sorting through them, so there are a reasonable amount of dupes/uninteresting pictures. The white balance came out quite well, at least when at 1/160 I'll try to have Saturday's up tonight. I was at 1/250 shutter speed most of that game, and there were some noticeable color shifts but nothing especially bad. Probably onby Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Camera policy in Lynah? - 14 years ago
Can't think of any other reason for strobes to be popping in a hockey arena. The "randomness" is whenever the photographer is taking a shot - most likely they use the aforementioned Pocket Wizards, although one transmitter on the camera and one receiver connected to a common trigger for all strobes. Hmm, I wonder how many WS you'd need to cover an entire arena...by Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Camera policy in Lynah? - 14 years ago
At 1/250 it is not even remotely close to a bad as the examples above. It becomes noticeable, but not awful. Going to start my first SmugMug upload when I go to bed tonight... Stupid slow Time Warner upstream! John Spencer? (Oh, the offtopic forum... ) As to the "remote portable strobes" approach - TTL seems like asking for trouble in a "tough" exposure situationby Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Camera policy in Lynah? - 14 years ago
Yeah, the higher shutter speed (and slightly greater noise) from the second night worked far better in terms of keeping things sharp. Color shifting at 1/250 isn't too bad. I'll need a faster lens to consider higher shutter speeds though. I have been tempted off and on by the Sigma and Tamron 70-200/2.8 lenses, but Sigma just announced that they're refreshing their 70-200 by adding opticalby Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Camera policy in Lynah? - 14 years ago
CowbellGuy That's about the worst thing you can do, since the white balance can change completely from shot to shot depending at where in the phasing the light that happens to be most prominent in your shot is. Whether you want stuff that night or next year, do what I said and set your white point to around 5000K. And neutral grey's won't make a damned bit of difference since it's always changingby Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Letter from MetaEzra - 14 years ago
mnagowski Last night I sat in Section F with a couple of other recent alums. Said the townie in Section G: "I haven't heard the black hole cheer in years." Dude. You rock. That was me. I'm sort-of a townie - I graduated in 2002 and live in Owego now, and am a former pepband member. This year was my first year holding season tickets - I was on the waiting list for 3-4 years, longby Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Camera policy in Lynah? - 14 years ago
Hmm... For some reason my post appeared as a gigantic text block. In a few of my wide angle shots I do see a bit of a light-to-light variance, but things do seem relatively constant from shot-to-shot even at 1/125-1/160. It's not perfect though...by Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Camera policy in Lynah? - 14 years ago
My observations: Not a single hassle from any usher/security person. Odd, I thought I'd at least get frisked for fish like I did at the last home Harvard game! This may not apply at other venues of course, but Lynah seems fine as others stated. The team uniforms are clearly treated with one of those whiteners that fluoresce. Do NOT use Scrivens' uniform as a white balance reference like Iby Andy Dodd - Hockey
Re: Camera policy in Lynah? - 14 years ago
Thanks! (300mm/2.8... I'm jealous!) Maybe next season I'll try the Bigma at a game, but that lens requires a LOT of practice and upper body strength and I'm out of shape.by Andy Dodd - Hockey
Camera policy in Lynah? - 14 years ago
I've tried to do a bit of searching both on the forums and the Cornell Athletics site but haven't found an answer. It's probably there somewhere but I just haven't been able to find it yet. I hold season tickets in the townie sections this year and am thinking of bringing my camera to the playoff games. I've seen plenty of point-and-shoots in the stands, but not many SLRs. (There's one personby Andy Dodd - Hockey
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