Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by Ken711
Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 25, 2024 09:02PM
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: chimpfood (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 25, 2024 09:26PM
The entire sprint football program should consider stepping down.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 25, 2024 10:22PM
Let's see what a new coaching staff can do.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/25/2024 10:23PM by Ken711.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: dbilmes (64.224.255.---)
Date: January 26, 2024 10:05AM
I assume the only reason Cornell still has a sprint football team is due to the fact that there are thousands of sprint football alumni who would be upset if Cornell dropped the program. We could probably say the same thing about the regular football program, too.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: Trotsky (12.151.182.---)
Date: January 26, 2024 10:12AM
Does it cost anything to run? I thought those things were clubs that self-funded? If so, who cares, let 'em wear the C, it's nice.dbilmes
I assume the only reason Cornell still has a sprint football team is due to the fact that there are thousands of sprint football alumni who would be upset if Cornell dropped the program. We could probably say the same thing about the regular football program, too.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/26/2024 10:12AM by Trotsky.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 26, 2024 10:13AM
Trotsky
Does it cost anything to run? I thought those things were clubs that self-funded? If so, who cares, let 'em wear the C, it's nice.dbilmes
I assume the only reason Cornell still has a sprint football team is due to the fact that there are thousands of sprint football alumni who would be upset if Cornell dropped the program. We could probably say the same thing about the regular football program, too.
Correct, it's self supported.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 26, 2024 01:48PM
It's also a good idea -- a form of football that takes into account the inequities when some college mainstream football teams have front lines that average 300 pounds. The most a sprint player can weigh is 178 pounds at weigh-in 4 and 2 days before the match, I believe it is, meaning about 185 maybe 190 after the weigh-in. In 50 years the max weight at weigh-in has gone up 20 pounds.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: Trotsky (12.151.182.---)
Date: January 26, 2024 02:03PM
"Thank God there is still a sport for middle-sized white boys."
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 26, 2024 02:11PM
Yesterday in Manhattan, we were solicited by a Black guy selling tickets to a comedy club. As I walked past, he said, "We need White boys." I told him, "Look up Colin Jost. He counts as two." Got the guy to laugh. Wasn't as pushy as people selling the double-decker bus tours of Manhattan. Thursday, low 50s, there were people sitting on the exposed upper level. Gad, tourists.Trotsky
"Thank God there is still a sport for middle-sized white boys."
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: RichH (104.28.76.---)
Date: January 26, 2024 06:14PM
billhoward
Yesterday in Manhattan, we were solicited by a Black guy selling tickets to a comedy club. As I walked past, he said, "We need White boys." I told him, "Look up Colin Jost. He counts as two." Got the guy to laugh. Wasn't as pushy as people selling the double-decker bus tours of Manhattan. Thursday, low 50s, there were people sitting on the exposed upper level. Gad, tourists.Trotsky
"Thank God there is still a sport for middle-sized white boys."
Reclaiming your thread drift championship belt wasn’t really necessary
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/26/2024 06:14PM by RichH.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: rss77 (---.sub-174-197-198.myvzw.com)
Date: January 26, 2024 06:38PM
Would help they set aside 10-15 admission slots for Sprint also.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: CU2007 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 27, 2024 03:33AM
rss77
Would help they set aside 10-15 admission slots for Sprint also.
No thanks. Too many “reserved” spots as it is. Can’t be giving more away to basically a club sport that very few people care about.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 27, 2024 02:49PM
seriously. sprint football is almost a big flashing neon "Sue Me For Title IX Violations" sign.CU2007
rss77
Would help they set aside 10-15 admission slots for Sprint also.
No thanks. Too many “reserved” spots as it is. Can’t be giving more away to basically a club sport that very few people care about.
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Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: January 27, 2024 04:31PM
why? its self funded so it doesnt have the same rules..ugarte
seriously. sprint football is almost a big flashing neon "Sue Me For Title IX Violations" sign.CU2007
rss77
Would help they set aside 10-15 admission slots for Sprint also.
No thanks. Too many “reserved” spots as it is. Can’t be giving more away to basically a club sport that very few people care about.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 27, 2024 05:46PM
if that's true, that's true i suppose.upprdeck
why? its self funded so it doesnt have the same rules..ugarte
seriously. sprint football is almost a big flashing neon "Sue Me For Title IX Violations" sign.CU2007
rss77
Would help they set aside 10-15 admission slots for Sprint also.
No thanks. Too many “reserved” spots as it is. Can’t be giving more away to basically a club sport that very few people care about.
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Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 27, 2024 10:01PM
Can a team escape the web of Title IX and equal opportunities just b/c the team is self-funded? Many dozens of men's basketball teams could self-fund and ignore Title IX. If they haven't already, somebody may try to litigate it.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: marty (172.59.177.---)
Date: January 28, 2024 11:44AM
billhoward
Can a team escape the web of Title IX and equal opportunities just b/c the team is self-funded? Many dozens of men's basketball teams could self-fund and ignore Title IX. If they haven't already, somebody may try to litigate it.
Maybe Beeeej will consider this. He can also look forward to a corrolary suit against anyone who addresses him with the wrong number of eeeeeees!
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: February 14, 2024 11:34PM
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: Local Motion (38.49.79.---)
Date: February 17, 2024 09:38PM
Why are do so many Cornellians turn their nose up to Sprint Football? I don't see posters being critical of wrestling at Cornell that has multiple weight classifications. Cornell Lightweight crew has been a strong program for many years. Don't get me wrong I love football at all levels, but having 300 lb. linemen is not exactly healthy either. We have a close family friend who was a first team All-Ivy defensive linemen at Cornell and he has struggled with diabetes and other health issues for many years. I think anyone who plays sports at Cornell whether it's varsity lacrosse or fencing deserves credit for their commitment to the university and their sport. Go Big Red!
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: billhoward (185.195.59.---)
Date: February 21, 2024 12:37PM
There's a lot of love for 150 Football, especially among lightweight-football alumni. The action is fabulous. Pound for pound, they put on a better show. The average 21-year-old male weighs 198 pounds, so this is an attainable sport. If you have to weigh in at 178 now for sprint football, your off-season weight could be the 198 average and you could weigh 185, 190, between games.
If there's concern it may be that sprint football at Cornell seemed to languish in recent years: 3-17
Sprint football has a challenge that it's another 50-60 men who don't have a comparable women's sport for gender equalization.
I saw 8-10 games my undergrad years and I recall great football and dark, rainy, sometimes snowy, Friday nights. This is not a good cheap-date night, at least not after Oct. 15. Even in the pressbox (not heated) it was cold.
I'd play sprint football in the Meinig Field house. For punts, I'd use multi-angle cameras to track the implied distance if (when) it hits the roof and that's where the other team gets the ball. Probably could do the same for field goals. Or if it hits the roof, use the cameras to declare the kick good or not.
Anyone for setting up an intercollegiate sprint basketball league? Where the players on court have to average 6 feet, nobody over 6-foot-4.
If there's concern it may be that sprint football at Cornell seemed to languish in recent years: 3-17
2013 2-5 2014 3-4 2015 4-3 2016 2-5 2017 4-3 2018 4-2 2019 1-5 2020 --- Covid 2021 2-5 2022 1-6 2023 0-6
Sprint football has a challenge that it's another 50-60 men who don't have a comparable women's sport for gender equalization.
I saw 8-10 games my undergrad years and I recall great football and dark, rainy, sometimes snowy, Friday nights. This is not a good cheap-date night, at least not after Oct. 15. Even in the pressbox (not heated) it was cold.
I'd play sprint football in the Meinig Field house. For punts, I'd use multi-angle cameras to track the implied distance if (when) it hits the roof and that's where the other team gets the ball. Probably could do the same for field goals. Or if it hits the roof, use the cameras to declare the kick good or not.
Anyone for setting up an intercollegiate sprint basketball league? Where the players on court have to average 6 feet, nobody over 6-foot-4.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 21, 2024 12:59PM
i'm sure it's cool but very few schools play it so i struggle to care. it's not like wrestling where the diversity of weights is built into the format, since all of them wrestle together. i also wouldn't care about short-guy basketball.
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Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 21, 2024 01:49PM
ugarte
i'm sure it's cool but very few schools play it so i struggle to care. it's not like wrestling where the diversity of weights is built into the format, since all of them wrestle together. i also wouldn't care about short-guy basketball.
some schools play JV football as well.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: February 21, 2024 08:27PM
upprdeck
ugarte
i'm sure it's cool but very few schools play it so i struggle to care. it's not like wrestling where the diversity of weights is built into the format, since all of them wrestle together. i also wouldn't care about short-guy basketball.
some schools play JV football as well.
Back when the Ivies only let sophomores and up play varsity football, there was also Freshman Football.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 21, 2024 10:41PM
jtwcornell91
upprdeck
ugarte
i'm sure it's cool but very few schools play it so i struggle to care. it's not like wrestling where the diversity of weights is built into the format, since all of them wrestle together. i also wouldn't care about short-guy basketball.
some schools play JV football as well.
Back when the Ivies only let sophomores and up play varsity football, there was also Freshman Football.
Not just the Ivy League. Abdul-Jabbar for example played 3 years because Freshmen weren't eligible. I found a piece that said the change was in 1972. It noted Bill Walton couldn't play in 1970-71 shortly after Kareem's Freshman team beat the defending national championship varsity team at UCLA.
Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: jkahn (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: February 21, 2024 10:50PM
and various other freshman team teams, including basketball and hockey. My freshman year, the frosh b-ball team played Syracuse 4 times, 2 home and 2 away, with the best game being an overtime loss at Barton. Syracuse's team was led by Ernie Austin, who was the star on the only high school team to beat Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's (then Lew Alcindor's) Power Memorial High School team in Alcindor's 4 years there.jtwcornell91
upprdeck
ugarte
i'm sure it's cool but very few schools play it so i struggle to care. it's not like wrestling where the diversity of weights is built into the format, since all of them wrestle together. i also wouldn't care about short-guy basketball.
some schools play JV football as well.
Back when the Ivies only let sophomores and up play varsity football, there was also Freshman Football.
The frosh hockey schedule was a lot of Canadian Jr. B teams and teams like the Ithaca College varsity. Most memorable performance for me was watching Carlo Ugolini score 4 goals in 51 seconds against the Jr. B Dixie Beehives.
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Re: Cornell's Sprint Football HC stepping down
Posted by: CU2007 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 22, 2024 07:58AM
ugarte
i'm sure it's cool but very few schools play it so i struggle to care. it's not like wrestling where the diversity of weights is built into the format, since all of them wrestle together. i also wouldn't care about short-guy basketball.
Short guy basketball is a great comparison
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