Cornell 7 Wagner 41
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Cornell 7 Wagner 41
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:07PM
The era of Kent Austin begins.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 0
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:11PM
Adam Currie an early INT to negate some positive field position trading.
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 0
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:16PM
0-7; 58 yards in seven plays; two third-down conversions; same old, same old.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 0
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:16PM
Wagner TD, 0-7. Livestats has failed but the Wagner QB Dosher went in from a foot out.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 0
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:19PM
We're trailing a team that got spanked by Assumption???!
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 0
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:23PM
I was hoping the trick play shit would stop with the coaching change.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 0
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:24PM
Good drive foiled by a bad snap to Gellaltly in the wildcat. Hendren with a bunch of good runs and Currie showing mobility.
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 0
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:26PM
Down 0-7 after 1st quarter. We seem to be moving the ball well on the ground so maybe that will open up the passing game later. After a good early stop, the D has not been able to stop Wagner on third downs. The turnover and fumbled snap didn't help either.
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 7
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:29PM
Argh. Wagner coverts on third and 10 after the line holds twice.
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 7
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:32PM
Tim, here's a nod to the good old days in yesterday's Cape Cod Times: [www.capecodonline.com]
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 7
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:33PM
The dreaded third-and-eight strikes again: 0-13
Make that 0-14
Make that 0-14
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 7
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:34PM
Wagner burns us for a 41 yard TD pass. 0-14.
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 7
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:34PM
41yd TD by Wagner on 3rd and 8, ouch
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 14
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:41PM
More errors. Fumble of a sack for a 20 yard loss, penalty calls back a 61-yard punt with no return.
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 14
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:43PM
Another 41-yard completion for Wagner. This is getting out of hand.
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 7
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:45PM
At least we blocked the extra point
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 14
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:45PM
I was hoping the blitzing and gambling and taking of chances on D would stop with the coaching change.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 7
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:46PM
Guess we should be glad we're not playing Assumption.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:46PM
I was hoping the losing would stop with the coaching change.
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 7
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:47PM
Hey- 20-0 I just knocked over a lamp myself!!
That was my Dad's Ohio State game, I think, in 1939. I have a game film I bought on eBay. Thanks, Al.
That was my Dad's Ohio State game, I think, in 1939. I have a game film I bought on eBay. Thanks, Al.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:50PM
Doscher's QB Rating is currently 252.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 7
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:53PM
Bingham was wrong. It was 1939. 23-14. Bingham was dead right, however, in writing "the curtain was coming down on that sort of thing."TimV
Hey- 20-0 I just knocked over a lamp myself!!
That was my Dad's Ohio State game, I think, in 1939. I have a game film I bought on eBay. Thanks, Al.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:55PM
Mets reference. As if I needed reminding.
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 20
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 01:58PM
Maybe we'll see Jeff Mathews at QB in the second half.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 02:01PM
Austin made it sound like he wasn't ready for primetime.Al DeFlorio
Maybe we'll see Jeff Mathews at QB in the second half.
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 02:02PM
Drew Alston is having a helluva day punting.
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 20
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: September 18, 2010 02:07PM
Is anybody???
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 20, halftime
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 02:08PM
1st half net yards: 266-46.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 20, halftime
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: September 18, 2010 02:09PM
Too nice a day for this crap... I'm outta here.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 20, 3rd qtr
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 02:31PM
We're back, and Matthews is in at QB
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 20
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 02:32PM
Do you think Currie is?Trotsky
Austin made it sound like he wasn't ready for primetime.Al DeFlorio
Maybe we'll see Jeff Mathews at QB in the second half.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 02:33PM
I dunno know, but Matthews' first completion continues the Cornell tradition of throwing under coverage on third down to come up short.Al DeFlorio
Do you think Currie is?Trotsky
Austin made it sound like he wasn't ready for primetime.Al DeFlorio
Maybe we'll see Jeff Mathews at QB in the second half.
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 7
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: September 18, 2010 02:38PM
Wagner 86TD this is a joke, are we sure we are playing the Wagner Seahawks and not the Seattle Seahawks?
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 7
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 02:39PM
To be fair, Doscher is better than Hasselbeck.phillysportsfan
Wagner 86TD this is a joke, are we sure we are playing the Wagner Seahawks and not the Seattle Seahawks?
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 20
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 02:39PM
Trotsky
Al DeFlorio
Trotsky
I was hoping that would stop with the coaching change.Al DeFlorio
...but Matthews' first completion continues the Cornell tradition of throwing under coverage on third down to come up short.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 27, 3rd qtr
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 02:42PM
First good news in 30 minutes: Matthews fires one to Shane Savage for 38 yards. Nice.
Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 27, 3rd qtr
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 02:44PM
First attempt at a 4th point conversion: against the blitz, Mathews has to unload it. Poop.
Edit: Mathews. One "t."
Edit: Mathews. One "t."
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 7
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 02:56PM
Post-game press conference will present an interesting opportunity for Kent Austin.
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Re: Cornell 0 Wagner 27, 3rd qtr
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 03:01PM
Yale and Georgetown with 920 yards in offense with ten minutes to go, 35-34 Georgetown. Princeton leading Lehigh by two, Brown tied with Stony Brook. Four Ivies losing but games not over. Harvard and Penn play tonight.
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Re: Cornell - Wagner
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.mis.prserv.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 03:37PM
Does "embarassing" come to mind?
Who the @#$% is Wagner?
Who the @#$% is Wagner?
Re: Cornell 7 at Wagner 41 postgame
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: September 18, 2010 06:46PM
What a letdown, losing 41-7 at Wagner. In the Has-to-be-a-pony-in-there-somewhere department, Drew Alston is a solid punter (7 punts, 37-yard average, plus a 60-yarder called back on a penalty) and who needs good punting more than the Big Red? Freshman Jeff Matthews came in at QB in the second half and played with more poise and fewer bad throws (7x15, 97 yards, 1 int) than starter Adam Currie. Cornell kickoff returners routinely got the ball out to the 30. Freshman tailback Gant Gellatly ripped off a 63-yard breakaway before getting hauled down. What else? The Wagner Stadium has a spectacular view of the Verrazano Narrows Bridge and the weather was perect. Cornell had a good turnout, perhaps 1000 of the 3000 near-capacity crowd.
However: Cornell ran into a first-class QB in Nick Dosher (8x11, 227 yards, no picks, no sacks), the ex-minor league baseball player. Cornell had trouble when Wagner runners went left or right. One Wagner TD, the fourth or fifth, was an unmolested 10-yard-run and once he broke free of the line; no Cornell defender got within 5 yards. Both QBs were pressured a lot and pressured or not, threw too many passes (3? 4?) at the feet of open receivers. Two or three times Cornell receivers turned the wrong way for the ball or failed to jump, although those were in the second and fourth periods when a receiver would be looking back into the sun. One of those, the receiver was open in the end zone and a Larry Bird-caliber leap (12 inches of vertical rise?) would have snared the ball for a TD.
Take away a couple dumb mistakes (goal line fumble lost late in the fourth, an in-and-out-of-the-receiver's hands pick returned for a Wagner TD earlier), and you would have had a closer game. Say 34-14. Had Cornell put up 14 not 7 in the fourth while holding Wagner scoreless, the team would have had a little more momentum going into Yale and Homecoming next Saturday.
Wagner Stadium, pop 3500, feels like a very nice high school stadium, but the visiting team facilities don't work for a football team. Lacrosse, maybe. I heard the coaches had to dress across the street. It appears the team's postgame meeting was on benches behind the stands. Ned Harkness would have been proud of the visiting locker room disadvantage were this in Ithaca. What else? The Wagner Soul Express (name?) marching band had budget uniforms (baggy nylon shorts, green Wagner T-shirts) but could they *play* once the announcer finished his long-winded intro. A separate Wagner precision dance team wasn't.
This is going to be a taller hill to climb than imagined. What if Wagner is the weakest team we play this year? Although Dartmouth, picked to finish seventh, ran over Bucknell, our opponent in two weeks.
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However: Cornell ran into a first-class QB in Nick Dosher (8x11, 227 yards, no picks, no sacks), the ex-minor league baseball player. Cornell had trouble when Wagner runners went left or right. One Wagner TD, the fourth or fifth, was an unmolested 10-yard-run and once he broke free of the line; no Cornell defender got within 5 yards. Both QBs were pressured a lot and pressured or not, threw too many passes (3? 4?) at the feet of open receivers. Two or three times Cornell receivers turned the wrong way for the ball or failed to jump, although those were in the second and fourth periods when a receiver would be looking back into the sun. One of those, the receiver was open in the end zone and a Larry Bird-caliber leap (12 inches of vertical rise?) would have snared the ball for a TD.
Take away a couple dumb mistakes (goal line fumble lost late in the fourth, an in-and-out-of-the-receiver's hands pick returned for a Wagner TD earlier), and you would have had a closer game. Say 34-14. Had Cornell put up 14 not 7 in the fourth while holding Wagner scoreless, the team would have had a little more momentum going into Yale and Homecoming next Saturday.
Wagner Stadium, pop 3500, feels like a very nice high school stadium, but the visiting team facilities don't work for a football team. Lacrosse, maybe. I heard the coaches had to dress across the street. It appears the team's postgame meeting was on benches behind the stands. Ned Harkness would have been proud of the visiting locker room disadvantage were this in Ithaca. What else? The Wagner Soul Express (name?) marching band had budget uniforms (baggy nylon shorts, green Wagner T-shirts) but could they *play* once the announcer finished his long-winded intro. A separate Wagner precision dance team wasn't.
This is going to be a taller hill to climb than imagined. What if Wagner is the weakest team we play this year? Although Dartmouth, picked to finish seventh, ran over Bucknell, our opponent in two weeks.
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Re: Cornell 7 at Wagner 41 postgame
Posted by: Jordan 04 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: September 18, 2010 11:21PM
billhoward
In the Has-to-be-a-pony-in-there-somewhere department,
Looks like the view was decent, as well.
Re: Cornell 7 at Wagner 41 postgame
Posted by: scoop85 (173.84.100.---)
Date: September 19, 2010 09:58AM
I assumed this would be a rebuilding season, but I never imagined we'd get pounded by Wagner -- especially after Wagner was handled by Div. II Assumption the week before.
Well, just keep in mind the rebuilding project Donahue had to undertake with the hoops program -- that turned out OK.
Well, just keep in mind the rebuilding project Donahue had to undertake with the hoops program -- that turned out OK.
Re: Cornell 7 Wagner 41
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: September 19, 2010 02:36PM
Wow, I'm glad I didn't make the trip over to Staten Island for that.
Re: Cornell 7 Wagner 41
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: September 19, 2010 09:09PM
There were 1,000 Cornellians hoping this is like seeing Steve Donahue's first game at Cornell. The weather was really nice. It was good to see a quarterback who could execute with precision, even if for the other team. The $2 foot-long hot dogs were pretty much a foot long. The Wagner fans didn't harrass anybody. Parking was free. I'm reaching here. Anyone want to help me?Josh '99
Wow, I'm glad I didn't make the trip over to Staten Island for that.
Oh, one more thing about the game. On a long pass, the referees missed a spectacular double-handed pusheoff by a Wagner receiver who then caught the ball at the last instant, an athletic feat since the pushoff was very late. I think it was on a scoring drive. Since it was in the first half and Wagner was on offense, it probably was a scoring drive. He got called for the same push in the second but by then the damage was done.
Re: Cornell 7 Wagner 41
Posted by: Jordan 04 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: September 19, 2010 10:51PM
billhoward
There were 1,000 Cornellians hoping this is like seeing Steve Donahue's first game at Cornell.Josh '99
Wow, I'm glad I didn't make the trip over to Staten Island for that.
That was a loss.
Re: Cornell 7 Wagner 41
Posted by: TimV (---.che.org)
Date: September 20, 2010 09:47AM
They have BOTH a competent quarterback AND $2 foot-long dogs???
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Re: Cornell 7 Wagner 41
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 22, 2010 06:34AM
Adam Currie, with a broken arm, and Grant Gellatly, with a broken foot, are both lost for the season.
[www.theithacajournal.com]
This season could be even longer than usual.
[www.theithacajournal.com]
This season could be even longer than usual.
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Re: Cornell 7 Wagner 41
Posted by: Robb (---.198-178.cust.bluewin.ch)
Date: September 22, 2010 11:22AM
Nah - it's over on Oct 15 (first day of Ivy hockey practice), same as always!Al DeFlorio
Adam Currie, with a broken arm, and Grant Gellatly, with a broken foot, are both lost for the season.
[www.theithacajournal.com]
This season could be even longer than usual.
Re: Cornell 7 Wagner 41
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: September 22, 2010 02:34PM
The way things are going maybe we should switch that to the first day of captain's practices.Robb
Nah - it's over on Oct 15 (first day of Ivy hockey practice), same as always!Al DeFlorio
Adam Currie, with a broken arm, and Grant Gellatly, with a broken foot, are both lost for the season.
[www.theithacajournal.com]
This season could be even longer than usual.
Re: Cornell 7 Wagner 41
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: September 22, 2010 04:38PM
KeithK
The way things are going maybe we should switch that to the first day of captain's practices.Robb
Nah - it's over on Oct 15 (first day of Ivy hockey practice), same as always!Al DeFlorio
Adam Currie, with a broken arm, and Grant Gellatly, with a broken foot, are both lost for the season.
[www.theithacajournal.com]
This season could be even longer than usual.
Or first day of classes.
Re: Cornell 7 Wagner 41
Posted by: ugarte (---.z75-46-65.customer.algx.net)
Date: September 22, 2010 05:16PM
This whole thread has a "gambling-at-Rick's" feel, minus the irony.
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Re: Cornell 7 Wagner 41
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: September 22, 2010 07:25PM
And here I thought (in the game report above) that the coach made a game effort starting the junior, realized after one half that it wasn't working out, and went with the freshman who just might be a four-year starter. Instead, broken arm for Adam Currie, the junior who started, exactly at the end of the first half, and that's ostensibly why Jeff Matthews, the freshman, got the call in the second.
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