Tierney leaving Princeton for Denver

DeltaOne81
Wow

Al DeFlorio
I checked to see if it were April 1 but it really is June.

[blogs.insidelacrosse.com]

Chris '03

Al DeFlorio
I checked to see if it were April 1 but it really is June.

[blogs.insidelacrosse.com]

?!?!?

Al DeFlorio

Chris '03

Al DeFlorio
I checked to see if it were April 1 but it really is June.

[blogs.insidelacrosse.com]

?!?!?

Struck me at first like an April Fool's headline in the Daily Sun. Then I realized it wasn't April 1. Capisce?

RichH

Al DeFlorio

Chris '03

Al DeFlorio
I checked to see if it were April 1 but it really is June.

[blogs.insidelacrosse.com]

?!?!?

Struck me at first like an April Fool's headline in the Daily Sun. Then I realized it wasn't April 1. Capisce?

I think Chris was just expressing shock and confusion wordlessly.

RichH

Al DeFlorio

Chris '03

Al DeFlorio
I checked to see if it were April 1 but it really is June.

[blogs.insidelacrosse.com]

?!?!?

Struck me at first like an April Fool's headline in the Daily Sun. Then I realized it wasn't April 1. Capisce?

I think Chris was just expressing shock and confusion wordlessly.

ugarte
My big fear is that the program will slip and it will be even harder for Cornell to post a solid SOS. Other than that, I'm not upset that it just got easier for Cornell to get the AQ.

Chris '03

ugarte
My big fear is that the program will slip and it will be even harder for Cornell to post a solid SOS. Other than that, I'm not upset that it just got easier for Cornell to get the AQ.

At least in the short term, Brown and Harvard are on the rise and PU is well stocked with talent.

Of course, regardless of PU's fortune, it already got harder to get the AQ with the Ivy playoff coming into play next year. A weakened conference with two additional games is not what the league had in mind...

ugarte

Chris '03

ugarte
My big fear is that the program will slip and it will be even harder for Cornell to post a solid SOS. Other than that, I'm not upset that it just got easier for Cornell to get the AQ.

At least in the short term, Brown and Harvard are on the rise and PU is well stocked with talent.

Of course, regardless of PU's fortune, it already got harder to get the AQ with the Ivy playoff coming into play next year. A weakened conference with two additional games is not what the league had in mind...

I thought the playoff was just for shits and giggles. Doesn't the regular season winner still get the AQ?

TimV
Tierney will probably be replaced by Metzblower, but Princeton's rise to dynasty status had more than a little to do with getting so many Blue Chips, especially out of the MIAA. Will that pipeline stay open? It's even possible some current recruits or players would transfer. Probably unlikely Princeton to Denver, but how about to Harvard, or um....us?

TimV
It's even possible some current recruits or players would transfer. Probably unlikely Princeton to Denver, but how about to Harvard, or um....us?

ben03

TimV
Tierney will probably be replaced by Metzblower, but Princeton's rise to dynasty status had more than a little to do with getting so many Blue Chips, especially out of the MIAA. Will that pipeline stay open? It's even possible some current recruits or players would transfer. Probably unlikely Princeton to Denver, but how about to Harvard, or um....us?

so we all know the transfer rules for an active D1 player ... but how do these rules apply to kids who has only committed to a school but have yet to enroll and/or dress? do they have to be released (by in this case P'ton) or are they free to go?

Josh '99

ben03

TimV
Tierney will probably be replaced by Metzblower, but Princeton's rise to dynasty status had more than a little to do with getting so many Blue Chips, especially out of the MIAA. Will that pipeline stay open? It's even possible some current recruits or players would transfer. Probably unlikely Princeton to Denver, but how about to Harvard, or um....us?

so we all know the transfer rules for an active D1 player ... but how do these rules apply to kids who has only committed to a school but have yet to enroll and/or dress? do they have to be released (by in this case P'ton) or are they free to go?

I think (but don't have a source to back it up) incoming recruits are free to go in this situation. At this point they've never practiced with the team or even enrolled at the school.

The Pioneers are switching leagues in 2010, joining the ECAC.

KenP
Did anyone else notice this in the IJ article?

The Pioneers are switching leagues in 2010, joining the ECAC.

Swampy
This is truly shocking, although I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye. If Tierney wanted, no doubt he could have hired his son as an assistant at Princeton.

Josh '99

Swampy
This is truly shocking, although I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye. If Tierney wanted, no doubt he could have hired his son as an assistant at Princeton.

True, but as the original article points out, Tierney has other family members out west - another son living in Portland, a daughter coaching at Berkeley, his mother living in Arizona. It doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility that he might be moving to be closer to them as well. Also, guessing based on Bill's age, Trevor might have kids in school in Colorado, making a move to NJ to coach together a less appealing option.

They'd have to convert The Chapter House into an Eating Club.

Swampy
If Tierney wanted, no doubt he could have hired his son as an assistant at Princeton.

ben03
so we all know the transfer rules for an active D1 player ... but how do these rules apply to kids who has only committed to a school but have yet to enroll and/or dress? do they have to be released (by in this case P'ton) or are they free to go?

CowbellGuy

ben03
so we all know the transfer rules for an active D1 player ... but how do these rules apply to kids who has only committed to a school but have yet to enroll and/or dress? do they have to be released (by in this case P'ton) or are they free to go?

Do you?

In lacrosse, as long as both coaches agree, transfers don't have to sit out at all. I guess that decision would fall to whomever replaces Tierney. They could be a dick about it and make them sit out a year, but I would think given the circumstances, even a current player would be allowed to transfer and play, especially if they go to a different league. If they wanted to transfer to another Ivy, the coach might be more reluctant to give the new team an immediate advantage that could come back to bite Princeton, but it seems to be rare that they force the sit-out.

John Morris, Senior Associate Athletic Director - Compliance, University of Washington
Transfer Rule: In most cases, a student-athlete who transfers from one NCAA institution to another is permitted to practice and receive athletics aid immediately at the second institution. As a general rule, the transfer student is required to serve an "academic year-in-residence" at the second institution prior to competing. However, several exceptions to the transfer rule exist that enable a student-athlete to be immediately eligible for competition at the second institution.

The most commonly used exception is known as the "one-time transfer exception." As the name suggests, this exception allows a student-athlete to transfer from one NCAA institution to another on one occasion and be immediately eligible for competition. Certain conditions must be met to use this exception, including: (1) the student-athlete must have been in good academic standing and academically eligible for competition at the previous institution; (2) the previous institution must grant the student-athlete written permission to use of the exception; and (3) the student-athlete cannot have transferred previously from a four-year institution. [[i]Note: In Division I, the one-time transfer exception is not available if the student-athlete wishes to participate in basketball, men's ice hockey or Division I-A football at the second institution.[/i]]

TimV
I love that the Eastern College Athletic Conference now includes 2 teams from Colorado, one from Ohio, and one from Kentucky.

KeithK

TimV
I love that the Eastern College Athletic Conference now includes 2 teams from Colorado, one from Ohio, and one from Kentucky.

No worse than the ECHL with its teams frmo Alaska, California and Idaho.

Al DeFlorio

KeithK

TimV
I love that the Eastern College Athletic Conference now includes 2 teams from Colorado, one from Ohio, and one from Kentucky.

No worse than the ECHL with its teams frmo Alaska, California and Idaho.

The Atlanta Braves used to be in the NL West.

mnagowski

They'd have to convert The Chapter House into an Eating Club.

No thank you.

Josh '99

Swampy
This is truly shocking, although I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye. If Tierney wanted, no doubt he could have hired his son as an assistant at Princeton.

True, but as the original article points out, Tierney has other family members out west - another son living in Portland, a daughter coaching at Berkeley, his mother living in Arizona. It doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility that he might be moving to be closer to them as well. Also, guessing based on Bill's age, Trevor might have kids in school in Colorado, making a move to NJ to coach together a less appealing option.

Kyle Rose
The Chapter House would be a whole lot better with *some* food that isn't nasty popcorn. Well, to be fair, it's slightly less nasty than the popcorn at Dunbar's.

KeithK

TimV
I love that the Eastern College Athletic Conference now includes 2 teams from Colorado, one from Ohio, and one from Kentucky.

No worse than the ECHL with its teams frmo Alaska, California and Idaho.

Swampy

Josh '99

Swampy
This is truly shocking, although I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye. If Tierney wanted, no doubt he could have hired his son as an assistant at Princeton.

True, but as the original article points out, Tierney has other family members out west - another son living in Portland, a daughter coaching at Berkeley, his mother living in Arizona. It doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility that he might be moving to be closer to them as well. Also, guessing based on Bill's age, Trevor might have kids in school in Colorado, making a move to NJ to coach together a less appealing option.

True, and maybe if he plans on driving to see them -- or vice versa -- being in Colorado is a big advantage. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure if he were to drive from Princeton to Kennedy he'd be able to get non-stops to SFO or Oakland, Portland, or Phoenix, whereas from Denver he might have to change planes. I'm not sure exactly how big an advantage Colorado is if he's flying. The West is much bigger than the East.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Denver is a United hub. Getting a non-stop to there from NYC should be easy.

CowbellGuy

Jeff Hopkins '82
Denver is a United hub. Getting a non-stop to there from NYC should be easy.

I wouldn't call anything involving United easy. At least not if you value things such as luggage and getting to your destination.

Chris '03

KeithK

TimV
I love that the Eastern College Athletic Conference now includes 2 teams from Colorado, one from Ohio, and one from Kentucky.

No worse than the ECHL with its teams frmo Alaska, California and Idaho.

At least since the merger the E doesn't stand for East anymore. It just stands for... E.

jtwcornell91

Kyle Rose
The Chapter House would be a whole lot better with *some* food that isn't nasty popcorn. Well, to be fair, it's slightly less nasty than the popcorn at Dunbar's.

Clearly Pep is waiting to clean the popcorn machine until we win another national championship.

TimV
Hey- Will some of these want to join the ECAC for a little....HOCKEY???

Josh '99

TimV
Hey- Will some of these want to join the ECAC for a little....HOCKEY???

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Denver isn't jumping ship from the WCHA to come play in the ECAC.

Kyle Rose

mnagowski

They'd have to convert The Chapter House into an Eating Club.

No thank you.

The Chapter House would be a whole lot better with *some* food that isn't nasty popcorn. Well, to be fair, it's slightly less nasty than the popcorn at Dunbar's.

billhoward
Assuming the rumors were true about who was being courted - Mike Pressler of Bryant / ex-Duke, Richie Meade at Navy, Jim Nagle at Colgate - you wonder why Denver didn't go after Jeff Tambroni. Let's hope it's because Tambroni is happy in Ithaca no matter who comes calling.